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Old 03-21-2012   #1
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Keanu Reeves on film vs digital

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Better Neo would start saving film from Smiths.
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all i can say is "whoa"
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all i can say is "whoa"
I came to say this.
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He's feeling nostalgia. And, the pressure from the finance guys about burning film.

I DO agree, however, with printing. Even a disorganized shoebox full of 4x6s is a surprising pleasure to browse. Even if negatives are lost or destroyed, the image remains physically, in print. Honestly, I don't think I have my wedding negatives from 23 years ago, but we have some framed prints and a book of 4x6s which we cherish as fine art.

I think the highest form of our "art" (still photography) is the printed image. It's unfinished until that point...and it doesn't matter how the image was made.
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I think the highest form of our "art" (still photography) is the printed image. It's unfinished until that point...and it doesn't matter how the image was made.
So right you are.

Usage of film in making movies, romantic or not, will lose in one major department: digital is cheaper. And that's all what for Hollywood movies makers counts most. We will see more and more digitally sharp movies with fuzzy of flat ideas directed at unsophisticated mass market. The only interesting thing about them is how far creators imagination can go with all this computer generated special effects. As for now each next movie is more graphic and more impossible than the previous one.
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He's feeling nostalgia. And, the pressure from the finance guys about burning film.

I DO agree, however, with printing. Even a disorganized shoebox full of 4x6s is a surprising pleasure to browse. Even if negatives are lost or destroyed, the image remains physically, in print. Honestly, I don't think I have my wedding negatives from 23 years ago, but we have some framed prints and a book of 4x6s which we cherish as fine art.

I think the highest form of our "art" (still photography) is the printed image. It's unfinished until that point...and it doesn't matter how the image was made.
Sorry, I don't fully agree. A processed transparency can be a thing of great beauty that can be appreciated just as it is, or via projection.
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He's feeling nostalgia.
Totally disagree.
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Well ... 'Canoe's' stature in the movie industry is similar to peanut butter's importance to the culinary arts IMO!
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Well ... 'Canoe's' stature in the movie industry is similar to peanut butter's importance to the culinary arts IMO!
Now you've mad him sad as he eats his PB sandwich...
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Well ... 'Canoe's' stature in the movie industry is similar to peanut butter's importance to the culinary arts IMO!
LOL...too funny, Keith. Spot on btw.

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Old 03-21-2012   #13
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I agree 100%. It's sad seeing digital replacing film for movies. When you see a movie like Barry Lyndon, which had large portions filmed w/ just candles and natural light, you see how beautiful and wondrous film stock is in the hands of an artist. Sucky colors, blown highlights, no shadow detail, lack of tonal quality...I refuse to watch digital movies. Just can't tolerate the "new technology" I guess. Well, we all have our standards.
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Film doesn't "bloom" like digital does in the highlights, which I think gives it a much more organic look...one that I like.

BUT...I see older movies which were scanned for bluray...and they look terrible. HD digital movies have an incredible sharpness to them, which is a feast for my eyes on a home-theater screen.

My favorite to view is new-technology movies, filmed on film stock, and then ARRI-laser-scanned. They are sharp, and you get to enjoy the grain too.
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I think It's nicely put by mr Reeves. Especially the mass thing.
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More longing and yearning for the days of old...
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More longing and yearning for the days of old...
Or a reminder that the latest and greatest is not necessarily those for everything.
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Or a reminder that the latest and greatest is not necessarily those for everything.
Of course, but you have to weigh the pros and cons...
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Of course, but you have to weigh the pros and cons...
Why? I don't feel I have to do that.
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More longing and yearning for the days of old...
I still have a place in my heart for Gbs of cheap, fast and unimportant digital images.

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I still have a place in my heart for Gbs of cheap, fast and unimportant digital images.

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When we holiday in an interesting place like Spain my wife takes hundreds of digital pics a day and while we would be tempted to print very few of them, it's great to relive the trip by looking at them in succession. I take my RF and black + white film. It's the best of both worlds.
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I still have a place in my heart for Gbs of cheap, fast and unimportant digital images.
Right, because we all know that digital cannot be used for serious work. My point wasn't that one should forget film. My point is that things change and it's not worth getting worked up over. believe me, there are many things I get nostalgic over... even film (and film cameras) sometimes.
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Some of the snarking commentary here takes me back to the old "grade school" yard.

It's embarrassing in some cases.

If you disagree with whatever the actor said, put your opinion and arguments of the subject on the table.

Simply pissing on his shoes (where he is not around to reply) is not a credible response.

I know that sounds pompous, but if we are going to sh#t on the guy's opinion, . . . someone please invite him to the discussion.
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I know that sounds pompous, but if we are going to sh#t on the guy's opinion, . . . someone please invite him to the discussion.
Ok, let's restart this thread at:

http://www.club-keanu.com/forum/

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