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Old 04-28-2012   #26
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I was out having a chat with a photo friend yesterday and he brought along his M9 with a Summilux 35mm f1.4 ASPH (not digital), and while we switched cameras and talked (he's going to buy an X-Pro1, he usually takes his X100 out more than the M9) I snapped these two pics.. mind you they are not scientifically metered in anyway, just shooting like people take photos!

M9 with Summilux 35mm f1.4 ASPH, 200 ISO f1.4 1/25th

XP1 with Fujinon 35mm f1.4, 1250 ISO f1.4 1/148th

I've got some more shots taken with the M9 and a Summilux 50mm f1.4 non-asph i'll put up later, for fun... I used the same ISO with those shots.. It's very fun shooting both, obviously, even better when you can talk light-hearted about both and enjoy shooting.
Just judging by the shutter speeds used, I don't know if it is an apt comparison.
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Old 04-28-2012   #27
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........... but the Leica looks a bit better, as it should for the price.
right there ^^ is where you undid yourself ..... you bought price into the factor ..... so your subconscious mind is not happy that Fuji is so much cheaper yet just as good ???
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Old 04-28-2012   #28
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right there ^^ is where you undid yourself ..... you bought price into the factor ..... so your subconscious mind is not happy that Fuji is so much cheaper yet just as good ???


What a load of Bollocks!

He's just saying the Leica lens is a bit better for (a lot) more money.

A problem every engineer knows.
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Old 04-28-2012   #29
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As I said earlier the XP1 with a 35mm - it definitely compares quite favorably to an M9 with a Summilux 50mm. As you can see it does a nice job of reproducing that Leica look. In fact at this point, on occasion the XP1/35mm combo will produce a better photo but I'm not sure it will do it consistently. The thing is at 15% the cost, it certainly is a more than viable alternative for a lot of folks.
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What a load of Bollocks!
He's just saying the Leica lens is a bit better for (a lot) more money.
A problem every engineer knows.

lol...read what i wrote carefully and slowly..... its not about the lenses in question....its about his thought process...whether leica is better, whether fuji is better, dont care.
understand now....he wants leica to be better
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Old 10-18-2013   #31
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You've tested both and come to this conclusion?
I have!
At one point i had the capability of doing just that.
i tested them both in extremes and using a Collimator and again using pointed sources of light and again focus testing using aperture control as well as visual testing, and again by actual use, and in every single test the Fuji 35/1.4 came out "better".
Same with the 18mm vs the 28 Summicron and the 28 elmarit.
At this point its just sour grapes between Leica and everyone else when it comes to sitting down and making really high performance lenses, almost all of the manufacturers out there now, when they choose to, make lenses that are exceptional and brilliant.
Zeiss's new 55 lens for $4000 look to make that Leica 50 f2 lens look a little less brilliant and at half the price.
To my mind Leica are rapidly becoming boutique equipment manufacturer and their belief in them making "the very best there is" is rapidly becoming challenged across the board.
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Old 10-18-2013   #32
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New Fuji Xpro1 owner

My Xpro 1 and 18mm and 35mm lens came in last night ...updated all of the firmware ....camera is amazing ...I have owned an original x100, Pentax K-10s, 20's and K-5 cameras with limited glass. I have Canon 5dmk II's and all L glass plus Leica M6 and Summicron glass and I have to say the Xpro1 is outstanding from some of the test shots I did yesterday. The lens and camera are not as heavy or solid feeling as the Leica stuff but what the camera can do does not leave you wanting. I am very excited about this camera. A big improvement over the x100 I use to own. The way things are going I might sell my Canon gear and buy the next Fuji x pro model that comes out to do my photo work with. I think people do too much testing and pixel peeping instead of shooting photos. The 35mm 1.4 Fuji lens is very sharp and works well. I do not regret buying the 35mm lens. I think it works and looks just as good as any other lens I have. I know each lens has a different character to them but as far as image quality it seems very good to me.
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As I said earlier the XP1 with a 35mm - it definitely compares quite favorably to an M9 with a Summilux 50mm. As you can see it does a nice job of reproducing that Leica look. In fact at this point, on occasion the XP1/35mm combo will produce a better photo but I'm not sure it will do it consistently. The thing is at 15% the cost, it certainly is a more than viable alternative for a lot of folks.
I guess it's safe to say....

Fuji can do Leica better than Leica can do Fuji
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