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07-31-2012
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I will use RAW once I get LR4. By showing my posted images again, I am assuming that your short statement was judgement that the images kinda stink. Right?
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07-31-2012
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Once you've installed LR4 make sure you download updates (currently LR4.1). Installing Lightroom updates is like doing a fresh installation, but any settings from a previous version are carried forward to the updated version. Feel welcome to contact me with any questions.
Regards,
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07-31-2012
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I will take you up on your offer, Lynn. It is appreciated.
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07-31-2012
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********************* Tom ***************************
Tom asked for some snapshots with the Summicron C. I was given a minute for a few snapshots. They had no time for me since they were leaving to buy some school supplies for when school starts again.
I did not encounter any problems with this lens.
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07-31-2012
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Watch that step!
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Originally Posted by raid
********************* Tom ***************************
Tom asked for some snapshots with the Summicron C. I was given a minute for a few snapshots. They had no time for me since they were leaving to buy some school supplies for when school starts again.
I did not encounter any problems with this lens.
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Looks like a great performer, I cannot afford the 1990's Cron anymore, this might be a alternative sharp lens.
I'm a big fan of fast stuff and I'm sure everyone knows how good the Canon/Sonnar f1.5/50mm is on the M8, I also use a Voightlander f1.5/50mm Nokton with very good results, stopped down a tad bit and it is also very sharp and still renders a nice Bokeh.
That about covers what I suggest on a Leica M8, ohh the CZJ Sonnar f4/135mm and the Leitz Hektor f4.5/135mm are also pretty "retro" looking lenses for the vintage *close up* work.
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07-31-2012
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I have the Sonnar 135/4 in Contax mount. I can use it with the Amedeo adapter on the M8.
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07-31-2012
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Watch that step!
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I have the Sonnar 135/4 in Contax mount. I can use it with the Amedeo adapter on the M8.
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Yeah it's a fun lens, stinks with the crop factor, but the results look alot like a stopped down f2/50mm Sonnar......
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08-01-2012
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I will use RAW once I get LR4. By showing my posted images again, I am assuming that your short statement was judgement that the images kinda stink. Right?
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I guess it was just a tip. M8 JPG kinda stinks  Except for B&W.
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08-01-2012
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You have to be patient. The jpg usage was a first start for me with this camera. I would not spend so much money for mediocre images. It will be a learning experience for me.
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08-01-2012
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I think eventually you would like shooting with the m8 more and more over your film m since it would be alot more convenient for your type of shooting. I find myself not using my m6 at all since the arrival of the m9. M8/9 files are very nice below iso 400 compared to equivalent nikon/canon counter parts. Definitely try shooting raw and develop your own work flow and presets in lightroom.
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08-01-2012
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You have to be patient. The jpg usage was a first start for me with this camera. I would not spend so much money for mediocre images. It will be a learning experience for me.
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Psh...jpegs from the m8 are actually fantastic if you understand exposure and white balance. That being said, I only shoot dng, because i convert to b&w using my own color sensitivity curves that jpeg shooting would not accommodate.
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08-02-2012
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Hi Thomas,
What you say is encourging, but I may use RAW, followed by using LR to convert to JPG.
I trust Brian's advice here.
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08-03-2012
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Loved your photos with the rigid summicron the best, all of them are great.
When you have LR4 you may want to set the M8 to create a JPG Fine and a Raw file. You can then do comparisons of the two in your post processing.
I really enjoyed the M8.2 that I had for awhile but sold it to move up to the M9.
Good luck and have fun.
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08-03-2012
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First...Mazel Tov on getting the M9! Enjoy it!!! Those images you captured are so clear..there's a quality about them that I feel I haven't seen before....lovely job!!
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08-03-2012
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Thanks
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Originally Posted by seakayaker1
Loved your photos with the rigid summicron the best, all of them are great.
When you have LR4 you may want to set the M8 to create a JPG Fine and a Raw file. You can then do comparisons of the two in your post processing.
I really enjoyed the M8.2 that I had for awhile but sold it to move up to the M9.
Good luck and have fun.
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This lens has always been my favorite lens overall. I will try creating JPG and RAW. Thanks.
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08-03-2012
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First...Mazel Tov on getting the M9! Enjoy it!!! Those images you captured are so clear..there's a quality about them that I feel I haven't seen before....lovely job!!
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Hi,
If you meant my M8, then thanks. I do not have the M9 (yet). It is one step at a time.
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08-03-2012
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Quote:
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Hi Thomas,
What you say is encourging, but I may use RAW, followed by using LR to convert to JPG.
I trut Brian's advice here.
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well...with raw+LR4, you'll be amazed at the amount of highlight recovery you can dig out of the m8's files...my only tip is...when in doubt, overexpose slightly because underexposing the m8 leads to funky noise, where overexposing in raw and recovering highlights is mighty tasty. besides...the m8's DNG files are actually a reasonable file size, so they don't take up much space and they actually write quicker to the cards than the jpegs.
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08-03-2012
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Oh yes, I did mean the M8 
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08-03-2012
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This is good to know. I used to underexpose slides, and then switched to expose nebative film at its rating. Now I move to overexpose with the M8!
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08-03-2012
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Oh yes, I did mean the M8 
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I tought so. Thanks.
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08-03-2012
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I have one Leica battery and three off brand batteries. I charged them, and the off brand batteries show three bars as fully charged in the M8. I will try to use only the original battery, and have the off brand onews as emergency back-up.
The batteries (1900 mAh) have a two year warranty, which means little if they explode inside the M8, but I think they are fine.
Dealer: http://myworld.ebay.com/dstebattery/
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10-04-2012
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a good trick to use it set the camera to DNG and JPG fine, and then set the colour to B+W
The preview on the LCD will be B+W but when you download the shots, you get a B+W JPG and a colour RAW file.
Also with LR4 it has a really good noise reduction algorithm so you can use ISO 640 quite readily for indoor use and if you like the grainy film look ISO 1250 and 2500 are usable too if you get the exposure right , I find the noise in the images reminds me of film grain
I can post some shots of 1250/2500 if you like
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10-04-2012
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Enjoy your M8, Raid. These are very nice pictures but if I'm allowed to be honest w/o being flamed, I don't see anything amazing about the rendering that's over and above much less expensive APS-C level gear like a Nikon or Canon DSLR with one of their modern primes. Your skills as a photographer makes these pics stand above the din, not that you shot these with a Leica.
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10-05-2012
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Hi Nick,
Honesty is most often the best to do. Thanks.
I like the images that I get with the cheap Olympus EPL-1.
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