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Fake (I think) special edition Leica II |
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08-11-2012
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Fake (I think) special edition Leica II
The VF window on this looks wrong. If it is, I'm sure there's more evidence i'm not seeing. Anyway it would be a Fed?
What's of greater interest: does anyone know what that "A" with arrow signifies?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221098937038...84.m1436.l2649 |
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08-11-2012
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Also, I don't think that era Fed OR Leica came with a shutter release button with the hole in it for the release cord.
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08-11-2012
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Don't call me Ron
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That's definitely a fake. As you say VF window is wrong and the chrome has been stripped away to make it look 'gold'. Very cheesy, very bad. Others will tell you what kind of Russki it is though.
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08-11-2012
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+1. The finder window is of course a dead giveaway. The hole in the shutter release adds to the evidence. Also, the large bright screws on the front panel invariably spell f-a-k-e.
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08-11-2012
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It's a Zorki..
Notice the black trim...
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08-11-2012
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The aperture adjustment ring is not the Elmar design. ( Elmar example here.)
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08-11-2012
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The camera is a Fed 1. Lens is a Industar 50.
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08-11-2012
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I don't know the FSU Nomenklatur... an old Soviet word. Meaning: a Fed 1 is a Zorki?
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08-11-2012
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This fellow has an interesting site. Fed, Zorki comparisons and information.
http://jay.fedka.com/index_files/Page391.htm
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08-12-2012
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http://portretteur.nl/index.php?opti...ders&Itemid=61
First clue (biggest clue as well):
Leica NEVER sold a brass camera. It's either chrome, black paint, black chrome (only M-series) or gray paint (wartime IIIc's, rare).
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08-12-2012
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Originally Posted by buzzardkid
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Or olive drab (military M again) or POSSIBLY Afrika Korps 'desert sand'. I think they're fakes but I have seen it credibly suggested that they may be contemporary fakes.
And, of course, you could strip the paint off a black paint Leica -- I think I may have seen that done once, many years ago.
But I thought this one was supposed to be gold plate. Or perhaps solid gold...
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08-12-2012
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I wouldn't trust a seller named a_1jewelryloan. Besides, he has two curious feedback comments:
1. A buyer bought a broken laptop but received an empty box. It sounds like he filed a case with the inspector general.
2. For an international buyer that had to pay customs, he wrote the value down as being TWICE the auction price.
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08-12-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by literiter
The camera is a Fed 1. Lens is a Industar 50.
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I'll have to disagree on both counts. It's absolutely NOT a FED but it is a Zorki. The lens is more likely an Industar 22 than 50. However, FAKE is most certainly is!
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08-12-2012
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It is a fakelicious Zorki 1 camera pretending to be a Leica.
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08-15-2012
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It's a bog standard fake Leica, once sold on Ebay only via Eastern European countries, but the disease seems to be spreading.
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