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09-08-2012
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New At Photokina 2012: ADOX SILVERMAX
Wow film folks, we have a new emulsion!!!
Below per ADOX.de
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NEW AT PHOTOKINA 2012:
ADOX SILVERMAX
SILVERMAX has an increased silver-content compared to regular films.
This enables him to built up twice as much DMAX and reproduce up to 14 zones in our dedicated SILVERMAX Developer.
This way SILVERMAX catches it all for you: brightest highlights and deepest shaddows.
SILVERMAX is incredibly sharp due to it´s anti-halation layer between the emulsion and the base.
The detail contrast is enhanced by this as well.
SILVERMAX features an extremely fine grain, comparable to tabular-crystal films.
His speed and covering effect comes from the high silver content.
SILVERMAX is coated onto clear triacetate and can be reversal processed.
Made in Germany.
Sizes:
•35mm film 135/36
Remark: Because of it´s high production price per sqm of coated material SILVERMAX is only available as a 35mm film and will not be manufactured in other formats.
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per:
http://www.adox.de/english/ADOX%20Fi...e35/index.html
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That is my big question too. I just called Freestyle, they didn't have details re it; however, I asked if their purchasing VP (Eric) can give a call to ADOX to get the low down....we shall see....
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From Adox............
The products presented now at Photokina are products which we prepared for the past half year and they are not (and can´t be) a reaction to the situation at Fotokemikas.
Silvermax is a special film based on an APX 100 emulsion but with a silver rhicher coating.
It uses an Agfa stock of clear triacetate base just like our first coating of PAN 400 did. This helped keeping the price within reason.
We have enough film for about 5 years. After this material is sold making such a film again will probably become very expensive.
This is a very good special film. I hope you will like it all.
This is not our replacement product for any CHS films and was never intended to be such.
No one knew in advance what would happen at Fotokemikas.
Mirko
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sounds promising, hope they gonna relase it faster than Pan 400.
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Wow. Awesome news. I love the niche market products coming out concurrently with the demise of other films.
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14 zones and ISO 100, heh? Hmmmmm.. 
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09-09-2012
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14 zones and ISO 100, heh? Hmmmmm.. 
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Hate to sound like a wag, but this is "better" than TMax how?
I know, I know, Kodak, all that stuff. But 14 zones and superfine grain at 100 speed has been here for a while. Now, with this film, maybe it will be with us for a while longer.
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I'll be looking forward to shooting some of this.
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I am excited
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New film announcements are always so satisfying these days, especially after an onslaught of new camera announcements. Now I have several things to look forward to and one of them won't empty my savings.
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Whatever one's preferences re: emulsions this announcement can only be hailed as good news!
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Agree, from an analog perspective, ADOX might just steal the show already....
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Wow ... nothing better than a 'boutique' film to go in your 'boutique' camera!
I hope it has Hermes packaging. 
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And of course the only other thing of interest at photokina has to be the new Plustek scanner!
There's a few holding their breath waiting to see what that will be like!
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Sounds interesting in theory, but what's the point of having 14 zones if your paper can't print them all?
All photographic films can be developed to cover a range of densities that is commensurate with the exposure range of a paper. That's why you can have full black, full white, and all the grey tones in between.
You don't need extra zones to print silver gelatin. The only reason I know to have film developed to a very high Dmax is when you are printing on a soft-contrast paper, such as platinum/palladium, Van Dyke brown, etc. But these processes are mostly sensitive to UV light, and are very slow--which preclude enlargement printing, unless you have a UV-source light in your enlarger. 35mm contact prints are a bit tiny.
I smell a gimmick. Or else it's a film designed to do slides (in which case you do need the extra Dmax), but I see nothing to this effect in the press release.
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Maybe it's a gimmick, but if so, it's no big deal. Many films can handle 14 zones of exposure. That just puts this film on par with those others. Should film be limited in capability because silver gelatine printing paper can't cover 14 zones?
Marketing is marketing, and everyone knows that, so who cares? On the other hand, it's a new film. Aren't you interested in trying it?
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Actually I am wondering grain structure more than other issues. I am big fan of micro contrast at old looking films and I am wondering the effect of increased silver content on this issue. I wish I could try it but unfortunately my local dealer doesn't sell Adox films 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zsas
Agree, from an analog perspective, ADOX might just steal the show already....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith
And of course the only other thing of interest at photokina has to be the new Plustek scanner!
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The Jobo CPP-3 is also of interest.
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Originally Posted by loquax ludens
Maybe it's a gimmick, but if so, it's no big deal. Many films can handle 14 zones of exposure. That just puts this film on par with those others. Should film be limited in capability because silver gelatine printing paper can't cover 14 zones?
Marketing is marketing, and everyone knows that, so who cares? On the other hand, it's a new film. Aren't you interested in trying it?
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Exactly. "Silver rich" is codswallop. "New film" is however (in the absence of any evidence to the contrary) indisputably good news.
Cheers,
R.
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Hey! ... we believe all the lies we get told about digital cameras when a new one gets dropped on the market ... how about we give film the same lattitude! 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith
Hey! ... we believe all the lies we get told about digital cameras when a new one gets dropped on the market ... how about we give film the same latitude! 
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Dear Keith,
We do?
Cheers,
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith
Hey! ... we believe all the lies we get told about digital cameras when a new one gets dropped on the market ... how about we give film the same lattitude! 
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Pun intended?
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ADOX SILVERMAX ... the M-M killer ! 
Glad to hear that there will be a new emulsion ! 
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Quote:
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Pun intended?
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I realised it only after I already typed and posted! 
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I for one will buy a brick or two as soon as I can if only to support Adox.
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