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I bought a brand new TLR once - a Yashicamat 124G back in about 1985. I still have it. Should I upgrade?
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I have dealt with that seller more than once. I also bought a new Rolleiflex FW from him.
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Is the Apogon still the same Planar lens?
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Originally Posted by emmef2
should be same lens design as Planar with different name because the license for using the "Planar" name has expired
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Exactly what I'd heard. It's the same lens with a new name. They've been on ebay for months at least. Brugetcamera on ebay is a very reputable outfit. I've sold to him, bought from him and made some trades with him. Always very pleasant to deal with, great communication, quick shipping. I got an FW from him as well, and my XPAN 30mm. |
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I had a focus problem with my FW. I returned it to him and had an exchange in less than 2 weeks. Excellent dealer.
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genius and moron
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Originally Posted by whitecat
I had a focus problem with my FW. I returned it to him and had an exchange in less than 2 weeks. Excellent dealer.
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Agreed. I returned something to him with zero problems, and he has always been very quick in coming up with a fair trade value once items arrive. |
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Originally Posted by sepiareverb
Exactly what I'd heard. It's the same lens with a new name. They've been on ebay for months at least. Brugetcamera on ebay is a very reputable outfit. I've sold to him, bought from him and made some trades with him. Always very pleasant to deal with, great communication, quick shipping. I got an FW from him as well, and my XPAN 30mm.
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The Ebay ad says it's made by Schneider-Kreuznach. So it's an upgraded Xenotar?
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genius and moron
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Originally Posted by Dirk
The Ebay ad says it's made by Schneider-Kreuznach. So it's an upgraded Xenotar?
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Not what I'd read. I read that the contract on using the Planar name had expired and they were calling it an Apogon or whatever. They'd always made the lens, it was just the design that was held by Zeiss. My FX has a Planar which says "Made by Franke Heideke (sp?)" on it. The pictures in the ebay ad show a camera with a lens made by DHW-Fototechnik, which is the 'new' Rollei...
This may be a newer version. If so I stand corrected. |
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As for price ... if I was going to spend five grand on a new film camera the Rolleiflex would have it all over an M7 or MP. The M7/MP choice would probably be more practical but the Rolleiflex is almost too beautiful for the average eyes and medium format kick's 135's butt!
I'd find it hard to spend five Gs on any camera but I think I could happily own an earlier f2.8 ... even though they aren't exactly cheap!
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Originally Posted by Keith
...the Rolleiflex is almost too beautiful for the average eyes
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Yep. That is hands down the most beautiful camera I've ever seen. I could work only with that Rolleiflex for the rest of my life... |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sepiareverb
Exactly what I'd heard. It's the same lens with a new name. They've been on ebay for months at least. Brugetcamera on ebay is a very reputable outfit. I've sold to him, bought from him and made some trades with him. Always very pleasant to deal with, great communication, quick shipping. I got an FW from him as well, and my XPAN 30mm.
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I have just read another post about this auction by Brugetcamera on ebay. The other post claims this is a fake White Face. They said the ser# of the White Face should not be on the top of the camera.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ex-White-Fac...item484672e1c6
According to this site, http://johnsrolleionlypage.homestead...ollection.html
It confirms the comment. Anyone have any comment about this? I just want to be careful!!
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I agree with Keith. For the money I've chosen Rolleiflex over a Leica MP, or M7. The FW (wide angle) model can be gotten NEW from reputable eBay dealers for just over $4K. That's why I also chose it over the Bessa III wide as well.
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Originally Posted by RedLion
I agree with Keith. For the money I've chosen Rolleiflex over a Leica MP, or M7. The FW (wide angle) model can be gotten NEW from reputable eBay dealers for just over $4K. That's why I also chose it over the Bessa III wide as well.
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Also ****ing gorgeous. 
I'm now trying to work out what I would have to sell to pony up for the price of a GX or similar! 
I understand your choice here ... the Bessa looks like a black brick by comparison.
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It looks like the new Rolleiflex uses Bayonet IV. Maybe it's needed for the closer focus capability, or perhaps the lens has a new design.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith
As for price ... if I was going to spend five grand on a new film camera the Rolleiflex would have it all over an M7 or MP. The M7/MP choice would probably be more practical but the Rolleiflex is almost too beautiful for the average eyes and medium format kick's 135's butt!
I'd find it hard to spend five Gs on any camera but I think I could happily own an earlier f2.8 ... even though they aren't exactly cheap!
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100% agree, if made to spend $5k on a camera, this is the one it would be. Makes me hopeful for the world to see such beautiful items still being made.
Not only that, but the results possible from it will blow away just about any other $5k camera, so it's cheap if you think about... |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JPD
It looks like the new Rolleiflex uses Bayonet IV. Maybe it's needed for the closer focus capability, or perhaps the lens has a new design.
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The Rolleiflex FW which has a Schneider 50mm lens takes Bay IV accessories. |
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Originally Posted by bojanfurst
Yep. That is hands down the most beautiful camera I've ever seen. I could work only with that Rolleiflex for the rest of my life...
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Ever seen a Gandolfi?
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5000 & call it a day!
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Originally Posted by bugmenot
How much does a new M7 cost again? The last Rollei FX model cost over $5,000...
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yeah, but that's wit a great lens included...
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The Rolleiflex is expensive but it exudes craftsmanship and quality like Leica. Although I have mixed feelings of the M8 and M9 fitting into the same category. It is by far the sharpest of all the cameras I have ever owned and I have had many.
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J. Patric Dahlén
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayt
The Rolleiflex FW which has a Schneider 50mm lens takes Bay IV accessories.
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Yes, but this FX-N has a 2.8/80 lens and Bay IV.
http://photorumors.com/2012/09/11/ne...mod2-and-fx-n/ |
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od karnevala
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No need for upgrade. Perhaps a new FW...
www.ivanlozica.com
1560dot2012 by dotur, on Flickr |
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ALL Rolleis are really beautiful. I have the basic Automat.
Auto loading! The "new" Rolleis don't have that, being based on the Rolleicord..
Rolleicorders you can now walk tall!
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That is interesting. I wonder why the need for Bay IV? |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by leicapixie
ALL Rolleis are really beautiful. I have the basic Automat.
Auto loading! The "new" Rolleis don't have that, being based on the Rolleicord..
Rolleicorders you can now walk tall!
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True. And they are all really good cameras too! Having just said that I admit that I would love to own and use the FX-N.
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this thread is very poisonous.... 
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