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04-22-2012
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When will I stop worrying about the camera..
The Advance lever on the MP shows slight play.
Is this normal on all Ms with the classic lever?

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Do you mean up-and-down play, or play in the direction of winding?
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If it's up and down play as you hold the lever in your picture, the ring around the shutter button that holds down the film winding lever, may need tightening, or there may be a washer under that ring that may have flattened and needs replacing.
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Up and down not normal. If it's out of warranty worry about it if it falls off. You can probably tighten it up by using something like this to turn the silver collar around the shutter button.
Pete
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Up and down play.
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A little movement is OK. There is a spring washer that allows this.
Use it until something else goes wrong. Then have it serviced and this checked out as well.
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Use a sheet of sticky rubber, used in the kitchen to grip jar lids, to rip the ring and tighten it with your fingers.
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Dan, I just looked at your recent threads ...
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...d.php?t=105218
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...d.php?t=118574
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...d.php?t=118415
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...d.php?t=118581
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...d.php?t=118404
You really seem worried about this one. Any of the possible defects you mention can be fixed in a < US 300 CLA. Not a big deal considering the value of the equipment. You can either have the CLA done now for peace of mind in terms of the camera matching the specs, or when the camera will have a show stopping functional issue (for example broken meter, shutter hole, etc.).
Again, I recommend to relax and just use it .... these are hand-assembled, mechanical devices, not as perfect as, say, a modern machine assembled DSLR, for instance.
We want pictures taken with your MP !!!
Roland.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ferider
A little movement is OK. There is a spring washer that allows this.
Use it until something else goes wrong. Then have it serviced and this checked out as well.
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Then I guess Ill leave it be since a little movement is okay.
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In Malaysia, its around 600USD for a CLA incl. shipping to Solms.
Been happily shooting with a M6 for the past few years, latest photo taken with it : http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ewX4O_34SJ...photo+(11).JPG
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Roland, Ive got mild OCD.
I sometimes need to lock in the lens a few times, just to be SURE it clicked 
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Good pic. Just crop a bit off both sides. IMO
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My M8 lever doesn't wiggle at all. I am embarrassed to say that I don't have my M3 in my office to check, mea culpa.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankS
Good pic. Just crop a bit off both sides. IMO
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Crop ?! GASP 
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Sometimes good to discover the nature of your camera.
If there is up-and-down play, it could be that the collar around the shutter button is loose. But even if it is tight, the lever is held down by a spring washer, which permits a "snug" amount of give, and controlled slippage.
....Vick
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It is tight...
Also noticed that the shutter release on my MP feels a bit ummm... different when compared to my M6. MP release feels a bit like those on M7s.
Requires a wee bit of force, M6 smooth all the way.
The MP wasnt used much by the previous owner. And i just shota roll since purchase last week. Guess it just needs some exercising!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan95
It is tight...
Also noticed that the shutter release on my MP feels a bit ummm... different when compared to my M6. MP release feels a bit like those on M7s.
Requires a wee bit of force, M6 smooth all the way.
The MP wasnt used much by the previous owner. And i just shota roll since purchase last week. Guess it just needs some exercising!
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And by exercise, i mean load more film and shoot!
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Yeah I think "in the literature" the M6 shutter electronics mechanism was smoother than the MP / M7.
Vick
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load ... shoot... repeat
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Crop ?! GASP 
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I agree with the crop diagnosis (for what it's worth). The view out the window behind the subject doesn't strengthen the image.
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I'm a little on the OCD side myself so I can relate to your feelings with your camera gear when these little things don't seem quite right.
But .... you need to supress it or it will seriously affect the enjoyment of your hobby!
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Quote:
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I'm a little on the OCD side myself so I can relate to your feelings with your camera gear when these little things don't seem quite right.
But .... you need to supress it or it will seriously affect the enjoyment of your hobby!
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Whilst working i couldnt help but think about the shutter release of my MP!
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Quote:
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Whilst working i couldnt help but think about the shutter release of my MP!
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You realise there's no hope for you Dan!
Do you fly in planes ... I'm not sure that I'd want to be sitting next to you while you worried about what may be loose or falling off. 
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If you aren't seeing problems in the pictures you are taking, instead of suppressing it, view these little perceived issues as part of the history of your camera.
Obviously if you are seeing the manifestation of issues certainly have it checked out.
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