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When will I stop worrying about the camera..
Old 04-22-2012   #1
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When will I stop worrying about the camera..

The Advance lever on the MP shows slight play.

Is this normal on all Ms with the classic lever?

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Do you mean up-and-down play, or play in the direction of winding?
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If it's up and down play as you hold the lever in your picture, the ring around the shutter button that holds down the film winding lever, may need tightening, or there may be a washer under that ring that may have flattened and needs replacing.
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Up and down play.
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http://www.leicainfo.com/forum/viewt...p?f=135&t=1065

Hmm...

I think ill just invest in the tools.
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Old 04-22-2012   #7
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A little movement is OK. There is a spring washer that allows this.

Use it until something else goes wrong. Then have it serviced and this checked out as well.
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Old 04-22-2012   #8
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Use a sheet of sticky rubber, used in the kitchen to grip jar lids, to rip the ring and tighten it with your fingers.
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Old 04-22-2012   #9
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Dan, I just looked at your recent threads ...

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...d.php?t=105218

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...d.php?t=118574

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...d.php?t=118415

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...d.php?t=118581

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...d.php?t=118404

You really seem worried about this one. Any of the possible defects you mention can be fixed in a < US 300 CLA. Not a big deal considering the value of the equipment. You can either have the CLA done now for peace of mind in terms of the camera matching the specs, or when the camera will have a show stopping functional issue (for example broken meter, shutter hole, etc.).

Again, I recommend to relax and just use it .... these are hand-assembled, mechanical devices, not as perfect as, say, a modern machine assembled DSLR, for instance.

We want pictures taken with your MP !!!

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A little movement is OK. There is a spring washer that allows this.

Use it until something else goes wrong. Then have it serviced and this checked out as well.
Then I guess Ill leave it be since a little movement is okay.
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In Malaysia, its around 600USD for a CLA incl. shipping to Solms.

Been happily shooting with a M6 for the past few years, latest photo taken with it : http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ewX4O_34SJ...photo+(11).JPG
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Roland, Ive got mild OCD.

I sometimes need to lock in the lens a few times, just to be SURE it clicked
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In Malaysia, its around 600USD for a CLA incl. shipping to Solms.

Been happily shooting with a M6 for the past few years, latest photo taken with it : http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ewX4O_34SJ...photo+(11).JPG
Good pic. Just crop a bit off both sides. IMO
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My M8 lever doesn't wiggle at all. I am embarrassed to say that I don't have my M3 in my office to check, mea culpa.
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Good pic. Just crop a bit off both sides. IMO
Crop ?! GASP
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Old 04-22-2012   #16
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Sometimes good to discover the nature of your camera.

If there is up-and-down play, it could be that the collar around the shutter button is loose. But even if it is tight, the lever is held down by a spring washer, which permits a "snug" amount of give, and controlled slippage.

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It is tight...

Also noticed that the shutter release on my MP feels a bit ummm... different when compared to my M6. MP release feels a bit like those on M7s.
Requires a wee bit of force, M6 smooth all the way.

The MP wasnt used much by the previous owner. And i just shota roll since purchase last week. Guess it just needs some exercising!
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It is tight...

Also noticed that the shutter release on my MP feels a bit ummm... different when compared to my M6. MP release feels a bit like those on M7s.
Requires a wee bit of force, M6 smooth all the way.

The MP wasnt used much by the previous owner. And i just shota roll since purchase last week. Guess it just needs some exercising!
And by exercise, i mean load more film and shoot!
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Yeah I think "in the literature" the M6 shutter electronics mechanism was smoother than the MP / M7.

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load ... shoot... repeat
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Crop ?! GASP
I agree with the crop diagnosis (for what it's worth). The view out the window behind the subject doesn't strengthen the image.
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I'm a little on the OCD side myself so I can relate to your feelings with your camera gear when these little things don't seem quite right.

But .... you need to supress it or it will seriously affect the enjoyment of your hobby!
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I'm a little on the OCD side myself so I can relate to your feelings with your camera gear when these little things don't seem quite right.

But .... you need to supress it or it will seriously affect the enjoyment of your hobby!
Whilst working i couldnt help but think about the shutter release of my MP!
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Whilst working i couldnt help but think about the shutter release of my MP!


You realise there's no hope for you Dan!

Do you fly in planes ... I'm not sure that I'd want to be sitting next to you while you worried about what may be loose or falling off.
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If you aren't seeing problems in the pictures you are taking, instead of suppressing it, view these little perceived issues as part of the history of your camera.

Obviously if you are seeing the manifestation of issues certainly have it checked out.
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I don't answer to OCD necessarily, but I think Dan would have trouble cropping a photo judging from his post above. I have only relaxed enough to do it a little recently. I think an MP is the wrong camera for Dan. A workhorse M6 is easier. I was most relaxed of all with an M4-2. The more I read about MPs the less I want one.
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You realise there's no hope for you Dan!

Do you fly in planes ... I'm not sure that I'd want to be sitting next to you while you worried about what may be loose or falling off.
LOL

This is the reason I buy beat up users, nothing to worry there unless it is faulty...
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I find mint condition camera stressful to use. Have more fun with a user.
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I don't answer to OCD necessarily, but I think Dan would have trouble cropping a photo judging from his post above. I have only relaxed enough to do it a little recently. I think an MP is the wrong camera for Dan. A workhorse M6 is easier. I was most relaxed of all with an M4-2. The more I read about MPs the less I want one.
I have nothing against cropping.

Ive always wanted a black paint camera, and went with the MP.

My father ( M6 user ) thinks the shutter release on my MP is quite smooth. Gah, guess i shant think too much about it then.

Willl receive the test roll in 2 days. C41.
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And just received a M6 skin for the M6.

Kinda hate the feel of the MP skin. Too slippery!
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I find mint condition camera stressful to use. Have more fun with a user.
I have found the same problems with classic fly reels, they just sit on the shel and never see the stream for fear of being the first one to put a scratch or ding in something so old and lovely. Most have been sold to fund other addictions.
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4/23/12, 10am: With my M3 now, the lever does't have any free play but it seems that there must be a compression washer in there somewhere, because I can get it to move a bit if I really try. Certainly nothing that I could ever call "loose" though.
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Ive decided to invest 18USD on the film advance clamp from Zhou!

Just curious, how do you know whether your mp is sealed ? The vf that is. Mine has a little dust ( doesnt affect viewing ). Though the rubber cover is slightly ummm loose? Guess it happens with time.

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Im messed up.... Sigh....
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Purchased the set of 9 tools from Zhou.
Should arrive in 2 weeks time.
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Yeah, but your MP is a piece of junk.

Just send it to me and I will exercise it for you at no charge.
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Yeah, but your MP is a piece of junk.

Just send it to me and I will exercise it for you at no charge.
Shipping would be 3500USD.
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When i retrieve film from the MP, as it reaches the end, it becomes a tad tight ( which is normal i guess ), then it makes a snapping sound when it detaches from the 'teeth'.

The sound's apparent when the baseplate is removed..
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When base plate is attached, it sounds exactly like the sound the m6 emits when film latches off the teeth..

Guess the baseplate has a corrective mechanism of some sort.
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**** - You seriously need to get another camera. You sound like Woody Allen trying to have sex without getting messy.
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