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Old 02-11-2011   #301
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Balda Super Baldax (80/3.5 Baldanar lens) with Konica-Minolta Centuria 100 film (3 years out of date). Scanned with Epson V500.
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Old 02-11-2011   #302
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Are you rerolling 120 in that?

Very nice misty photos, BTW.
looks a bit light leaks to me?

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Old 02-11-2011   #303
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Well, his lens probably has a nice haze on it. 120 film is not as wide as 616, so it would not be well supported. The film he is using may be way out of date.

Still, I like the effect, and not many folks would make the effort to use a 70 year old camera you can no longer get film for. Also, he picked the type of shots that actually benefit from the problems, he deserves a hearty pat on the back.
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Old 02-12-2011   #304
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My late grandfather's Bessa RF 6x9

The camera itself (pic taken with a 4x5 rangefinder ):



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Old 02-13-2011   #305
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Here's the one shot that came out nicely from the Zeiss Ikon Nettar 17/16 that I bought:


A pretty funny story: I bought the camera for super cheap then never shot anything with it because I couldn't find 120 film or developing locally. I put it on Craigslist and some guy emailed me saying he'd send me a roll of 120 and pay for processing. He lost the negatives for a few months, but finally sent them to me and there's the result.
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Old 02-16-2011   #308
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The Pinnacle at Point Lobos, from Autumn 2010. Heavy overcast left me with totally flat light I'm afraid. At full size one can somewhat pixel-peep individual birds on the rock. (Probably even more so if I had a proper scanner.)

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Bessa RF 6x9, Helomar 105/3.5 (same machine as urs0polar's in post #356 above). Portra NC-160. Exposure somewhere in the vicinity of 1/100 sec at f/11 if I recall, on tripod. Epson 4490 flatbed scan (sorry).
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The Pinnacle at Point Lobos, from Autumn 2010. Heavy overcast left me with totally flat light I'm afraid. At full size one can somewhat pixel-peep individual birds on the rock. (Probably even more so if I had a proper scanner.)

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An amazing testament to even the lowest rated lenses used by Voigtlander. I had a Bessa RF with the Helomar and was told when I purchased it that the lens was near the bottom of the line, with the Heliar being at the top.

As I used it, I became convinced I had an unusual copy. Having now seen this photo and a couple of other Helomar examples, I am pleased to say that I don't think Voigtlander used any really bad lenses. This is an incredible shot from a 70 year old folding camera.

I do think that all the lenses from the thirties, forties and fifties stood their ground well when shot in the 6X9 format, and the lower triplet lenses are highly underrated, while the top line.... Color Skopars, Heliars and others can hold their own with contemporary medium format cameras of today.
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An amazing testament to even the lowest rated lenses used by Voigtlander. [...] I am pleased to say that I don't think Voigtlander used any really bad lenses. This is an incredible shot from a 70 year old folding camera.
Thanks for the kind words; necessity was the mother of invention, in my case. I suppose not necessity; I could stretch to afford a Bessa RF with the Heliar, but I'm enough of a skinflint that I refused to do so (USD 600?!?! -- granted, an outlier.) I have found that, as the conventional wisdom on all these forums suggests, it's truly useful to stop down the Helomar to f/8 or beyond. My Helomar's wide-open performance is OK, but not great. While all the Noctiluxophiles around here condition us to shoot wide open a lot, it's not a great idea in this case. Even the nice triplets that Braunschweigers past put on these cameras are still triplets, not highly corrected 7-element beasts or computer-designed wonders with aspherical this&that. Pack faster films and leave your ND filters at home, thus forcing yourself toward smaller apertures.
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Zeiss Supe Ikonta B 532/16. Fantastic Christmas present! The camera was purchased from Keh.com in UG condition.. but I still cannot see why it was considered "Ugly".. These shot were taken in Philadelphia, PA.


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The Pinnacle at Point Lobos, from Autumn 2010. Heavy overcast left me with totally flat light I'm afraid. At full size one can somewhat pixel-peep individual birds on the rock. (Probably even more so if I had a proper scanner.)

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Bessa RF 6x9, Helomar 105/3.5 (same machine as urs0polar's in post #356 above). Portra NC-160. Exposure somewhere in the vicinity of 1/100 sec at f/11 if I recall, on tripod. Epson 4490 flatbed scan (sorry).

Wow, this is a pretty awesome photo! Yeah, maybe the helomar isn't supposed to be great, but I also get great results with it. Very 3D ... it also helps that 6x9 is basically about 1/2 of the film area of 4x5 ... so it's like the smallest semi-large format camera ever It really makes me think that those crazy expensive Voigtlander Heliars for large format just may have something to them...
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Nice. We were memorably chased into the main harbor there by a waterspout one day. Beautiful quiet place and pace, otherwise.

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Old 02-23-2011   #315
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More from the Bessa, from same walk as the Pinnacle photo a few posts earlier above. Similar exposure. Post-processed only to fix a tilted horizon! (I still think it's not quite right, but it's close.)

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Old 02-26-2011   #316
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From a cir. 1950 Zeiss Ikonta C with Opton Tessar, Neopan in D-76.


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Old 03-05-2011   #318
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Old 03-06-2011   #319
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I'd love a coupled folding rangefinder (or at least a 6x6 one) but every time I look at what I got out of the Zenobia, I feel like I ought to just stick with it.


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Zenobia

I'd love a coupled folding rangefinder (or at least a 6x6 one) but every time I look at what I got out of the Zenobia, I feel like I ought to just stick with it.
One of my projects it to rebuild a Zenobia R. The last Zenobia 645 was an uncoupled (and accurate) rangefinder dubbed Zenobia R with the Neo Hesper lens.

The Zenobia are very well build copies of a Zeiss 6x4.5 folder and I've seen some great shots from both the Hesper Anastigmat lens and the Neo Hesper. The rangefinder was almost an un-noticed addition for the last model.

What you say is true. If 645 is your format of choice, and you like folders, the Zenobia is barely a handful and a great shooter.

When I heard about the R model, I went on a hunt. The one I have is the only example I ever found, along with another set of parts for the R model... (rangefinder parts, from another seller.
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Zenobia

I'd love a coupled folding rangefinder (or at least a 6x6 one) but every time I look at what I got out of the Zenobia, I feel like I ought to just stick with it.
One of my projects it to rebuild a Zenobia R. The last Zenobia 645 was an uncoupled (and accurate) rangefinder dubbed Zenobia R with the Neo Hesper lens.

The Zenobia are very well build copies of a Zeiss 6x4.5 folder and I've seen some great shots from both the Hesper Anastigmat lens and the Neo Hesper. The rangefinder was almost an un-noticed addition for the last model.

What you say is true. If 645 is your format of choice, and you like folders, the Zenobia is barely a handful and a great shooter.

NOTE: It is reported that there was an SR model (Super Rangefinder) which was coupled. Have never seen one of those listed anywhere, other than a reference on Camerapedia.
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