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Photos taken with Nikkor-O 2.1cm 1:4 - POST HERE |
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06-09-2011
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Photos taken with Nikkor-O 2.1cm 1:4 - POST HERE
This lens comes in S-mount and F-mount. There's probably not many people using the S-mount version, but I know there's people using the F-mount version mounted either on an S-mount camera via an F->S/C adapter or an F-mount camera. If you've got any shots taken with either version, post 'em here.
Here's a few shots to get the ball rolling.
Train home - Nikkor-O 2.1cm 1:4 by jonmanjiro, on Flickr
Film girls at MAP Camera, Shinjuku - Nikkor-O 2.1cm 1:4 by jonmanjiro, on Flickr
Shibuya camera fair 2011 - Nikkor-O 2.1cm 1:4 by jonmanjiro, on Flickr
Shibuya camera fair - Nikkor-O 2.1cm 1:4 by jonmanjiro, on Flickr
Buying film - Nikkor-O 2.1cm 1:4 by jonmanjiro, on Flickr
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06-10-2011
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SLR Version on Nikon RF with an adapter.
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06-10-2011
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The SLR version on a BD S2 with the Cosina adapter (and another one on a Nikon F - with the original finder and backcap). Good lenses, nice fall off.
Still cant figure out this downloading to the RFf though!!!!
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06-11-2011
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Quote:
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SLR Version on Nikon RF with an adapter.
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Hi Dicken, got any photos taken with that combo that you can post?
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Originally Posted by Tom A
The SLR version on a BD S2 with the Cosina adapter (and another one on a Nikon F - with the original finder and backcap). Good lenses, nice fall off.
Still cant figure out this downloading to the RFf though!!!!
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I'll link some of your pics Tom (might get a bit lonely in here if I don't)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rapidwi...nikkor21mmf40/

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06-11-2011
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I could spend a lot of time browsing around that store!
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06-11-2011
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Thanks Jon. Must be the analog user in me that cant figure out the "linking". Somewhere in the great pixellated sky there is a hard drive that holds a lot of my pictures!
It is a pity that not more people use the old 21f4 Nikkor. It has a very special look to it - not a Biogon "clinical" or the Super Angulon 21. It is also very compact - can easily slide into a pocket. It also uses the 52 mm filter in the F version.
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06-11-2011
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Thanks, Jon, for the examples. I have often considered getting the F version with an F->M adapter. Certainly cheaper than the S-mount, and half the price of, say, a Super Angulon.
Tom, how would you compare the Nikkor against the SA ?
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06-11-2011
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The advantage of the SA versus the F mount 21f4 is that the SA is coupled to the focussing.
The SA has higher contrast and the center sharpness is better (still one of the sharpest center portion of any 21, even among todays new wonders). The Nikon is more even across the board - still remarkably sharp, surprisingly modest vignetting for a 50 year old design.
Both lenses have a distinct 60's look to the image (not altogether bad) and they really shine with black/white.
I probably use my SA more than the Nikkor 21f4 - but that is most likely out of habit as I have used SA's since 1964. However, when I get into Nikon "mood" I either take the VC 21f4 or the Nikkor 21f4 along. Both lenses are compact and can be kept in a shoulder bag without to much weight penalty. I like the original Nikkor 21f4 in Rf mount - but it is a collectible and premium priced - cant see myself spending that kind of money - particularly as I have plenty of 20's and 21's to choose from.
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06-11-2011
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Jon - nice 21mm shots. Is the 21/4 Nikkor RF lens rare and expensive?
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Thomas, only about 300 Nikkor-O 2.1cm f4's were made in S-mount, so its rare and expensive. Prices are comparable to Noctilux prices
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The Nikon is more even across the board - still remarkably sharp, surprisingly modest vignetting for a 50 year old design.
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That's the thing that really impresses me about the Nikkor-O, Tom. Almost no light fall off in the corners for a 50 plus year old optical design is quite impressive. No complaints here regarding sharpness either 
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06-11-2011
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Has anyone information on how the Nikkor 21mm/4 compares with the W-Rokkor 21mm/4?
I love the vintage look of the W-Rokkor non-retro focus 21mm 4.0 lens.
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06-12-2011
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Raid. years ago I tried the W-Rokkor 21f4 and I remember not being too impressed with it. I did run it against a 21f3/4 SA which at the time was (and, yes, still is my favorite) and found it a bit lackluster. Could have been the sample I tried too, of course.
You have any samples with it? Please post - though i do not need any more 21mm GAS!
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06-12-2011
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You have any samples with it? Please post - though i do not need any more 21mm GAS!
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Raid, I'd like to see some samples too but lets not mix up Rokkor photos with Nikkor-O photos. A new thread for the Rokkor samples would be great 
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06-12-2011
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I sent two images to Tom with a pm.
It is your loss ...
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06-12-2011
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I sent two images to Tom with a pm.
It is your loss ...
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Is there a problem, Raid?
FTR this is the Nikon forum, and the title of this thread is Photos taken with Nikkor-O 2.1cm 1:4 - POST HERE
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06-12-2011
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Not at all, but I always like to compare lenses. Just looking at images from one lens without allowing for images by other lenses is less useful, in my opinion.
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06-12-2011
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Not at all, but I always like to compare lenses. Just looking at images from one lens without allowing for images by other lenses is less useful, in my opinion.
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I'd be happy to participate in a comparison thread if you'd like to start one 
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06-12-2011
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Since Fred (photomoof) does not want to play it looks like a Jon-one-man show regarding the S-mount version. 
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06-12-2011
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Quote:
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Since Fred (photomoof) does not want to play it looks like a Jon-one-man show regarding the S-mount version. 
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しょうがないな〜
Hopefully the guys using the F-mount version will post some pics too 
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06-13-2011
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Quote:
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Not at all, but I always like to compare lenses. Just looking at images from one lens without allowing for images by other lenses is less useful, in my opinion.
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Just looking at web images the actual size of a postal stamp when displayed at 300 dpi to allow lenses to be compared ones with others is just a bit less useful as well. 
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06-13-2011
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I'd be happy to participate in a comparison thread if you'd like to start one 
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I would too with my VC 21/4 LTM. Very compact, and sharp.
Jon, I almost bought a F version, but since the 21/4 I have is RFer coupled I'm happy with it.
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06-13-2011
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Unless I am misunderstanding something the W-Rokkor 21f4 cannot be adapted to the Nikon SP can it?
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I use an adapter for Rokkor to LTM. I don't know if there is a Rokkor to Nikon S adapter.
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06-13-2011
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Quote:
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I'd be happy to participate in a comparison thread if you'd like to start one 
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I started a thread on 19mm~21mm lenses.
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06-13-2011
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Do you guys use hood on the 21/4 nikkor? The original hood seems pretty hard to find.
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06-13-2011
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I dont have a hood for my current F-mount 21f4's. Years ago I had one that had been modified to a Leica screw-mount and I used a couple of 52mm filters (three I think) with the glass removed and 'stacked" together.
It is surprisingly flare resistant though and I have not had any problem with stray flare or veiling flare.
Nikon used to sell their lenses without hoods and many used them like that. If you bought the hoods - they usually fell off and got lost (this goes for both the Rf and F type lenses - hence scarcity).
The original hood for the Rf 21f4 is truly scarce and can bring $1000's at "collectors" auctions. It is a simple ring type hood, nothing fancy, but it does say Nikkor on it!!!
Even the original hood for a lens like the 25f4 is worth as much as the lens - if you can find one.
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06-13-2011
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Quote:
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Do you guys use hood on the 21/4 nikkor? The original hood seems pretty hard to find.
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I haven't had any trouble with flare so don't use a hood, Chris.
Considering their rarity and prices they sell for, I'd be too scared to use the original hood if I owned one 
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