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12-23-2012
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Do you know of a camera like this?
Ultra Compact (like the size of a 7sII or Olympus 35 RC.
No meter
fixed lens
Coupled rangefinder
Manual Exposure settings both shutter speed and aperture
auto cocking shutter with film advance
Good lens
35mm film
Cant be a folder
Anybody? Did such a camera ever exist?
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12-23-2012
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By 35mm, do you mean the lens or film format? If format and not lens you might look at the Olympus 35-S and 35-S II. 45mm/3.8, 48mm/2.8 and 42/1.8. Great Zuiko lenses.
Also, if 35mm lens, Olympus 35 wide (either with or without selenium meter.) Much less common than the cameras mentioned above.
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12-23-2012
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Perhaps if it meets the other requirements you could just ignore the meter?
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12-23-2012
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Originally Posted by lynnb
Perhaps if it meets the other requirements you could just ignore the meter?
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If you know of any I would be very interested. I could ignore the meter. What do you have in mind?
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CURRENT FAVORITES
6x6 TLR............... Argoflex EM - Custom
35mm RF............... Olympus XA
35mm RF............... Kodak Signet 35 - Custom
35mm SLR.............. Nikon FM - 24,55
Projector............. Brumberger 1406 - 4"
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12-23-2012
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Originally Posted by Greyscale
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Nice suggestion thank you!
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CURRENT FAVORITES
6x6 TLR............... Argoflex EM - Custom
35mm RF............... Olympus XA
35mm RF............... Kodak Signet 35 - Custom
35mm SLR.............. Nikon FM - 24,55
Projector............. Brumberger 1406 - 4"
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12-23-2012
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Yashica Lynx 14 or 14E. Although it has a meter, it works w/o a battery all manual and the 45mm f1.4 lens is dynamite!
http://www.cameraquest.com/yaslyn14.htm
Edit: realize you said ultra compact, the Lynx 14 and 14e are not compact, but maybe the Lynx 1000 or 5000 are more compact and can be all manual??? Anyone? Russ? |
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12-23-2012
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Ansco Super Memar?
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12-23-2012
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None of the early fixed-lens Yashicas were what I would call compact, and all were quite heavy, in my experience. The GX and the CC were the ones most similar in size to what the OP gave as examples. The sticky widget will be the manual mode for both aperture and shutter.
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12-23-2012
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Have you discounted the 35RC? Fits the criteria but has limited speeds.
If a rangefinder is not a priority (I know it is in your list) then a Petri Color 35 should fit the bill.
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12-23-2012
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Rollei 35
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12-23-2012
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canonette 28 or the electro 35cc wide. despite the AE.
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12-23-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zuikologist
Have you discounted the 35RC? Fits the criteria but has limited speeds.
If a rangefinder is not a priority (I know it is in your list) then a Petri Color 35 should fit the bill.
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NO I like that one but they are overpriced.
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CURRENT FAVORITES
6x6 TLR............... Argoflex EM - Custom
35mm RF............... Olympus XA
35mm RF............... Kodak Signet 35 - Custom
35mm SLR.............. Nikon FM - 24,55
Projector............. Brumberger 1406 - 4"
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12-23-2012
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Quote:
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canonette 28 or the electro 35cc wide. despite the AE.
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on the 35cc wide can the user choose the shutter speed and the aperture?
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CURRENT FAVORITES
6x6 TLR............... Argoflex EM - Custom
35mm RF............... Olympus XA
35mm RF............... Kodak Signet 35 - Custom
35mm SLR.............. Nikon FM - 24,55
Projector............. Brumberger 1406 - 4"
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12-23-2012
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Oly XA?
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12-24-2012
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Oly XA?
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The XA is aperture priority and battery dependent, but a heck of a great lil camera! |
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12-24-2012
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Ricoh 500G - OK, it has a meter, but runs fine in full manual mode without a battery.
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12-24-2012
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aires iii. i dont have one. But it seems fit your need.
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12-24-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 68degrees
Ultra Compact (like the size of a 7sII or Olympus 35 RC.
No meter
fixed lens
Coupled rangefinder
Manual Exposure settings both shutter speed and aperture
auto cocking shutter with film advance
Good lens
35mm film
Cant be a folder
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I'm sure there's some older camera out there that meets this spec exactly, but I don't want to work that hard.
For this sort of thing I grab the Rollei 35S and eschew the rangefinder, or I fit the 40mm on the Leica CL. Just ignore the light meter on both of them. |
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12-24-2012
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Olympus QL17-G-III with no battery. Seriously.
It's not the smoothest handling in manual mode, but it's got all the features you seek.
And, add the little Voigtlander meter in the hot shoe for a complete package.
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12-24-2012
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For ultra compact and fully manual with a real rangefinder and no meter, there are few options. One camera I have which is close is the Olympus Ace. The Ace is an interchangeable lens rangefinder camera, and the first version has no meter. It is a pocketable camera, and there are 35mm, 45mm, and 80mm lenses available for it. The Ace also has a very large viewfinder, which is also nice. Unfortunately, the Ace is not a common camera. It is not ultra compact, but is a small camera, and the lenses are very compact.
The Kodak Retina cameras are also fully mechanical, and the IIIc I use takes great photos. The Retina does have a built in un-coupled meter, but it is out if the way, and I never use it anyway. The controls are a little difficult to get used to, but once you have the camera figured out, it really is fun to shoot.
The Canonet QL-17 is also a great camera, fully manual, and easy to operate, and it is relatively inexpensive, but I prefer the lenses on the Yashica, Minolta, or Olympus fixed-lens rangefinders. The lens coating on the Canonets is inferior, and prone to fungus and cloudiness.
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12-24-2012
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12-24-2012
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I almost forgot the most obvious answer of them all, the Kodak Signet 35. Compact, durable, with an excellent lens, and one of the coolest cameras ever made.
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12-24-2012
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Quote:
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This is a winner -meeting all of the requirements.
I just gave one away in this year's Christmas thread!
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12-24-2012
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@Grayscale: The Signet 35 has separate film advance and shutter cocking. Great lens, tho!
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