Old 03-24-2009   #81
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I finally got one roll from my "Minolta CLE + SA21/3.4 + VC Meter II + VC 21mm VF" setup.

The first roll was neopan 1600, but it was still under development. What I got here is from the second roll, Kodak E100G slide. Unfortunately, I'd been quite busy during this roll, and was forced to shot in the "available darkness" with f3.5 + iso100, which led to shutter speed = 1 second. Handheld....

Luckily the shutter mechanism of the Minolta CLE is very quiet and soft, very close to a Leica M, and therefore I was able to get some decent shots with 1-second handheld.



































(Please note that, the slowest shutter speed from the Minolta CLE is 1s (I haven't tried the B shutter though), and with f3.5 + iso100, sometimes 1s is still not long enough. Therefore some of the shots were actually under-exposed and pushed back to normal in Photoshop.)

I really love how this lens performs on the slides. Better than what I got from the same lens on the R-D1s. (On the other hand I never shot with this lens + R-D1s in RAW...gotta try it sometime.) Now I'm waiting for the first B/W roll.
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I found another 21/3.4 superangulon in my local shop...But the element seems a little loose inside (Tom mentioned about this before if i recall correctly). Is it a easy fix for experienced tech? or is it a easy DIY? It's priced very fairly. I am attempt... Just want to make sure if it is worth the trouble.
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At LAST.... a few SA shots
can't wait to try it in Colour /ANY RECOMMENDATIONS as to which Color Film?
M2 -TMax 400 -Ilford DDX
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Nice shots Helen. Why not try the new Ektar 100?
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@ deepwhite: #6 is great !! 1s handheld ... I have to try this some time ...

@ Helen: Your BW look very good ! You should try some E100VS with this lens ...
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Thanks for your Comments & Encouragement Trius, Nando,& Gabor

will pick up some COLOUR Film this week
another set B&W...
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These are great, Helen. As Gabor suggested, a nice saturated film would look good with that lens - like Velvia 50 (still available via ebay), or 100EVS, 160VC, or such.

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Thank You Roland...will take You & Gabor up on the color suggestions
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@helen - I think your SA21/3.4 is feeling lucky to have you. ;-) Love all of your shots.
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@helen - I think your SA21/3.4 is feeling lucky to have you. ;-) Love all of your shots.
Sweeet...Thank YOU deepwhite
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Helen - Did you sell your 21? I thought I saw it in the Classifieds yesterday...
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I am the Alex mentioned by Helen. Should have the SA next week. BTW I called Leica and this particular SA was in the last batch of 100 SAs made. Thats a cool historical detail about this sample.

WIll post photos once I use it a bit.
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I am the Alex mentioned by Helen. Should have the SA next week. BTW I called Leica and this particular SA was in the last batch of 100 SAs made. Thats a cool historical detail about this sample.

WIll post photos once I use it a bit.
And I have the one just before it - 2917099!! Two sequentially numbered S-A's in Canada!
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according to Leica, 150 was last serial. we are both in the last batch of 100 made.
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Great !! What film did you use for these ?
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T MAX 400 / and instead of RODINAL I used Ilford DDX

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ALRIGHT Don;t you ALL tell me
what a FOOL I am....

but I now Think this is the only lens I REGRET selling
I do know someone who has two up for SALE
might Do it Again........

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ALRIGHT Don;t you ALL tell me
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but I now Think this is the only lens I REGRET selling
I do know someone who has two up for SALE
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....what did I tell you in your ad?
...same what did I tell you ?
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ALRIGHT Don;t you ALL tell me
what a FOOL I am....

but I now Think this is the only lens I REGRET selling
I do know someone who has two up for SALE
might Do it Again........

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Ok, Helen that is all fine and dandy - but you now have to find either 2917098 or 2817101 to complete the "circle"!
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Ok, Helen that is all fine and dandy - but you now have to find either 2917098 or 2817101 to complete the "circle"!
hehehe Tom...on the Prowl again with those serial #'s in Mind
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Watch out there Tom. When a woman says "hehehe" and uses words like "Prowl" and "...in mind" it sounds like "she's got your #" (She probably just wants your Leicas. Women can be so devious!)
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Al, I have no fear - my S.A is currently locked up as I haven't started to unearth stuff from my safe storage after the trip!
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well it looks like I upset 'ALex' / qruk12
I'm not very adept at these things and apparently there is some coating missing on the Front Element and he would like to return this to Me...
Which is perfectly understandable....
So I am now trying to get the Lens back from Canada
and then Reimburse Alex.
A Nightmare for Me & Him....


QUESTION TO ALL:
I paid $1075.00 for this lens with back cap & Hood ...With this scenario Did I pay too much for this Lens ?
Does coating missing affect image because i had a Print made 8x10
and I see nothing in the B&W print
Can a coating be REDONE ? IF so How much does that Run?
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Yes, lenses can be recoated. The coating on the external surfaces isn't as important as the coating between the groups of elements. A coated front element can help if you use a filter. It's least important on the outside surface of the rear element because you don't put a filter there.

If you can't get your money back you still have a very useable lens.
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Focal point will likely perform the recoating for a decent price. You can contact Michael Sparks [[email protected]] (very nice guy).
$1075 is a good price for the late batch SA21 with hood but considering the coating damage, I would think you should be able to get it for less.
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Focal point will likely perform the recoating for a decent price. You can contact Michael Sparks [[email protected]] (very nice guy).
John Van Stelten at FocalPoint is also very helpful. I learned from him that the cost and risk of re-coating a lens element depends on the construction of the group affected. If it's a single-element group, then it's less difficult to polish off the existing coating and re-coat. But if the damaged surface is part of a multi-element cemented group, the group must be heated to separate the elements, the affected element polished and re-coated, then the elements re-cemented/centered/collimated. Obviously, the 2nd situation is more expensive and entails some risks, depending on the the age of the lens and the types of cement and glass composition involved.

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Great! Enjoy your NEW new lens when you get it!
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Helen, front coating marks on a SA are not critical and most likely will not show up in use - particularly as you have the hood with it.
Rear element marks are critical and they will show up.
If you can get another without marks, go for it - but even the one you got will probably do good service. You are buying it to use, not as a collectible anyway. Price seems OK, particularly with the hood ( about $150) and the back cap ($50+).
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Back to Some FUN.... FIREMEN & POLICE under the watchful EYE of the SA....
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Nice to have you back in the SA21/3.4 group, helen! To me it's not that everybody can make an interesting wide-angle shot.

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I finally got some time to scan my other SA21/3.4 rolls. Maybe the neopan 1600 was expired for too long that the image got a little bit "unclean".



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DEEPWHITE:
Do Love the subtle shadows of You entwined amidst the other Shadows ...very cool

Like the Mood of the SA spying behind the Glass ....

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something abit off...though there is a Moody Charm in the last
Arista Premium /DDX

Is it in my Developing ??
Has Not happened Before

Thanx for Your Help.....Best- h
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