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uhoh7 01-25-2011 20:35

Nikon to Nex Kipon Tilt adapter
 
Nikon to Nex Kipon Tilt Adapter 99USD shipped



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rxmd 01-25-2011 20:59

Nice idea, but to make most of a tilt adapter I guess one would need a better viewfinder. It's hard enough already with SLRs to get the plane of focus right.

uhoh7 01-25-2011 21:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by rxmd (Post 1529665)
Nice idea, but to make most of a tilt adapter I guess one would need a better viewfinder. It's hard enough already with SLRs to get the plane of focus right.

Well these are handheld test shots taken withing 48 hours of recieving the adapter, and they may be crap, but it is certainly not the fault of the LCD, which is 912k with 7x and 14x movable mag.

Sam N 01-25-2011 22:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by rxmd (Post 1529665)
Nice idea, but to make most of a tilt adapter I guess one would need a better viewfinder. It's hard enough already with SLRs to get the plane of focus right.

I was thinking the opposite. A high-res LCD with a magnification area that can be moved around the frame like the ones on the NEX is perfect for using movements. It's analogous to moving a loupe around on an LF ground glass.

I want a tilt+shift adapter for micro 4/3. All 35mm SLR lenses should have plenty of coverage for the little 4/3 sensor.

uhoh7 01-25-2011 23:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofdanang (Post 1529693)
I take it that knurled screw on the right-hand side of the adapter locks the tilt?

There are two knobs--I think what you describe as a screw. They turn a 360 degree ring between the mounts which tightens or loosens on whatever angle you choose.

For most of these shots I have the ring loose and am adjusting the lens angle and focus ring to experiment with the POF.

The build quality is pretty decent.

Lensbaby has a much more expensive one which tilts more.

There is no shift.

Best,

Charlie

BTW got it from [email protected] directly, ships fast from within USA.

uhoh7 01-28-2011 09:43

Well, I had a gig today for a magazine ad.

Assignment: Shoot dance instructor, blur students, show motion, landscape orientation:

Tools: Nex-5, Kipon tilt adaptor, Nikon 50mm f1.4 AIS

These are straight out of the camera, no PP.














jarski 01-28-2011 09:48

gotta love NEX system. Sony, pls make us prosumer model as well :rolleyes:

venchka 01-28-2011 09:56

OK, overlooking the pseudo-miniature effect.....
Does this adapter function for rise-fall and left-right shift? While keeping the lens perpendicular to the sensor? Like a conventional PC lens for 35mm cameras? Or does it only do LensBaby type swinging/tilting?

ampguy 01-28-2011 10:20

wow, very interesting adapter.

I wonder if someone will make a NEX adapter/lens like this thing:

http://www.cinematography.net/edited-pages/FRAZIER.HTM

uhoh7 01-28-2011 10:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by venchka (Post 1532294)
OK, overlooking the pseudo-miniature effect.....
Does this adapter function for rise-fall and left-right shift? While keeping the lens perpendicular to the sensor? Like a conventional PC lens for 35mm cameras? Or does it only do LensBaby type swinging/tilting?

As I tried to say above, it does not shift. It tilts up to about 12 degrees in any direction. It only costs a hundred bucks.

The graphic designer LOVED these shots--the dance class--which to me don't show any miniature effect at all but simply a very high isolation of focus on the subject.

The shot in the first series with the girl sitting on the rug--that shows the miniature effect to my eyes anyway.

I could not have shot these with ANY DSLR, I don't think.

For example, a DX3 with the 2100 PC-E 24mm is too slow at 3.5---well who knows maybe the ois and good FF iso could make up for the speed of my 50mm at f/1.4

Of course some extra time in software might do it, with better results.

It's a bit tricky to focus of course, but that's why 7fps and a big card is nice, hehe.

Here is the fraizer:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/06t8TGAffNA

ampguy 01-28-2011 10:42

I like that last shot, but is the distortion at the top from the lens, or induced by the tilt, or both?

FPjohn 01-28-2011 10:45

Great use of a direct view camera.

yours
FPJ

uhoh7 01-28-2011 10:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by ampguy (Post 1532333)
I like that last shot, but is the distortion at the top from the lens, or induced by the tilt, or both?

Well since it's a 50mm, I think it has to be the tilt

Re: direct view

The Hi-Rez what you see is what get LCD helps--you can see exactly what you've got when using legacy glass--DOF, everything.

When using LAEA1 and the excellent cheap sony "easy choice" however, the aperture stays open untill the shutter is depressed, so you do not get a "live view", though brightness does vary with manual settings.

The sub 200usd sony DT 35mm F/1.8 is fast and wicked sharp--very light also.

best
Charlie

FPjohn 01-28-2011 11:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by uhoh7 (Post 1532353)
Well since it's a 50mm, I think it has to be the tilt

Re: direct view

The Hi-Rez what you see is what get LCD helps--you can see exactly what you've got when using legacy glass--DOF, everything.

When using LAEA1 and the excellent cheap sony "easy choice" however, the aperture stays open untill the shutter is depressed, so you do not get a "live view", though brightness does vary with manual settings.

The sub 200usd sony DT 35mm F/1.8 is fast and wicked sharp--very light also.

best
Charlie

Thanks for the comment on the F1.8. I wonder if we can look forward to an E version of both it and the 30mm f2.8?

yours
FPJ

uhoh7 01-28-2011 12:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPjohn (Post 1532404)
Thanks for the comment on the F1.8. I wonder if we can look forward to an E version of both it and the 30mm f2.8?

yours
FPJ

The most noise is about a very fast 24mm sub f/2

This actually is a fantastic size for the nex, like a classic 35mm.

Now I use the canon nFD 24 f/2, which sells for 250+ when you can find one.

The upcoming 24 I think will be over 400 and possibly much higher--they say it will be CZ.

The other easy choice which is remarkable is the 85 f/2.8 which is 175g!

They all seem to be very sharp, but you are right, the nex needs compact RF sized primes with good AF and from 28 up OIS.

Why they do not simply use the current easy choices, adapted to emount with imporoved AF, I do not know.

The very short register, sensor to lens, on the nex, also means that some very compact primes could be made---but let's not hold our breath.

douglasf13 01-28-2011 14:01

I can't wait for the alleged 24mm f1.x Zeiss. Manual rangefinder primes from 35mm and up seem to perform well enough on NEX, but below 35mm is hit and miss. A fast 24mm would be great. Fingers crossed. Here are the 4 lenses expected this year. I'm going to guess 50mm 1.4 (hope it is 60mm 1.4,) 55-200mm zoom, 30mm f2.8 macro, Zeiss 24mm f1.7. We'll see!


uhoh7 02-04-2011 02:05

I was out at another shoot with my tilt.....












Kettle Bell Class

Nex-5, Nikon 50mm f/1.4, Kipon tilt adapter.


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