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wakarimasen 01-12-2014 00:13

How do you scan your 35mm B&W film?
 
The title speaks for itself: how do you scan the 35mm B&W film that you use? Please comment also whether or not you are really happy with the results, and which model you use.
I'm interested, as I'm not so happy with the last few films I've scanned, although the negatives looked ok.

MiniMoke 01-12-2014 00:15

Epson V600! Works very well

When I find a real pearl of a negative I have it printed at a lab.

One day I'll build me a darkroom (dream on)!

wakarimasen 01-12-2014 00:20

Sorry minimoke - I took a long time with the poll!

I use an Espon 4490, which I'm not so happy with. Not sure if it's technique or the machine, but it's not working for me.

biomed 01-12-2014 00:30

I originally purchased a Canon FS4000US shortly before production ended. The stepper motor died after two years. I replaced it with a Nikon Coolscan V. I also have a mint SUPER COOLSCAN 4000 ED I picked up in a trade. I actually like the Canon film holders, but the Nikons are much faster.

Austerby 01-12-2014 00:41

Very happy with my V700 for 35mm, 120 and 5x4 film. Good enough for me.

ruby.monkey 01-12-2014 00:43

I used to use a plustek 7500i, but switching to Linux put the kybosh on that. Now I scan everything on an Epson V700.

Chriscrawfordphoto 01-12-2014 00:45

Nikon LS-8000ED with glass carrier and Vuescan software. I detail my scanning workflow on the tech tutorial pages on my website:

http://chriscrawfordphoto.com/technical/scanning.php

ChrisLivsey 01-12-2014 00:48

Dedicated Plustek 8100 (No IR but as only shoot B/W for home process no need)

If I was printing I would send out (Ilford Lab UK) for the web I have no issues. Perversely I am happy with Silverfast as bundled when according to almost everyone else I should use Vuescan. The example is straight from that software no other processing.
I can see on some strips a flatter holder would give me better results but modern choices are limited. Under our consumer laws I have 6 years redress against failure, try that on S/H.
I may have a good, well aligned copy, or indeed it may be average who knows.
I am puzzled that the OP states "the last few rolls" was he happy before? Have expectations changed or has the scanner had a knock?






HP5+ TD-201 Nikon S3 50mm Nikkor Olympic



wakarimasen 01-12-2014 00:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sejanus.Aelianus (Post 2285008)
I can't vote. I generally use a camera to digitise negatives.

Ah - sorry! Anyone know how I edit the poll to add this option?

wakarimasen 01-12-2014 00:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisLivsey (Post 2285010)
I am puzzled that the OP states "the last few rolls" was he happy before? Have expectations changed or has the scanner had a knock?

I used to use a Minolta Scan Dual II and an Epson 3200. I decided to reduce the amount of gear I had, sold both and settled on an Epson 4490. This seems great for C41 colour, but I don't seem to be able to consistently get B&W scans that I'm happy with.

ChrisLivsey 01-12-2014 01:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by wakarimasen (Post 2285013)
This seems great for C41 colour, but I don't seem to be able to consistently get B&W scans that I'm happy with.

Sounds like a software issue?

Keith 01-12-2014 01:11

I ticked the V750 box but have a Nikon 5000 ED in my future ... I just have to go and pick it up and pay for it. :)

maddoc 01-12-2014 01:42

Usually using a Coolscan 4000ED and occasionally an Epson V700.

robert blu 01-12-2014 02:00

I find the combination Nikon 5000ED + Nikonscan + Ilford Delta (100 or 400) very satisfying. Recently bought an Epson V600 to scan my 120 film but not yet tried B&W.
robert

sailor 01-12-2014 02:13

I send my B&W films to Ilford for processing and scanning. I used to have a Nikon IV but I didn't have a lot of success with it for either colour or B&W. Commercial scans were noticeably better. The Nikon was eventually destroyed when we had burst pipes in the house and was never replaced. I have recently been looking at the Reflecta 7200 because the cost of sending film away is getting to be prohibitive. Here is a sample of an Ilford Hi-res scan.

Minox 35. Ilford Delta 100.


Old Petrol Pumps by Elmer Duck, on Flickr

woollybandit 01-12-2014 02:36

I am giving up on film as the only local shop here in Dereham UK are so bad the films look like they are sand paintings. Completely unusable. I don't know if they aren't capable or just don't care. I waited a month over Christmas for one roll to be scanned.
Another shop treated my low light prints to the auto exposure level setting and handed me a stack of purple/grey prints. The staff in these places couldn't care less, they are minimum wage and being sacked is a career move to the benefits system. Grrr!

edge100 01-12-2014 02:49

Pakon F-135 for proofing, Polaroid SprintScan 120 for final scans

MarinB 01-12-2014 03:19

Scanmate 3000 drum scanner (12-bit/3000dpi) with a G4 Mac (Adaptec 29160N SCSI card) using ColorQuartet 5.3.1 software (OS X 10.4.11). Usually dry-mounted, sometimes wet-mounted (SDS Anti-Newton fluid or Kami SXL). Currently scanning hundreds of XPAN negatives from five different 400 and 320 ISO films for a pro photographer, for an exhibition.

mdarnton 01-12-2014 04:39

I use my camera (details here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mdarnton/7183241686/ ) which works slightly better than a flatbed scanner in both sharpness and especially time, but I'm moving to large format, and will have to reevaluate.

With LF, I'm going to be stitching, one way or another, so the advantage may not be as strong. For 2-1/4, the scanner wins in sharpness, loses in time, unless I use the camera and stitch, which isn't worth the bother.

Tijmendal 01-12-2014 04:42

Pakon f135. I also have a V600, but I only use that for Medium format (and even then I hate it...)

mike rosenlof 01-12-2014 05:12

Minolta Scan Dual IV

I also wet print, but mostly larger format negs. 35mm ends up mostly digital for me.

BardParker 01-12-2014 05:33

I really like my Epson V700. Have tried Vuescan but need to learn it better. Epson software works well for me and is very easy.


img024.jpg by KentWebb, on Flickr


img043.jpg by KentWebb, on Flickr

Kent

GRN 01-12-2014 05:47

I use now Plustek Opticfilm 7400, mayde I upgrade...for better. Quite reasonable image quality in this, but does not really focus to the grain though..

julio1fer 01-12-2014 06:29

I use an Epson V600 and Epson software. Using the Pro settings it works very well for my needs. I have scanned mostly silver-based B&W, but also C-41 and slides.

Matus 01-12-2014 07:03

I send all my films to a lab which uses Coolscan 5000 and 9000 for rather reasonably priced scans. I usually get 8bit JPEG scans of everything at medium resolution (2000) and if some frames are exceptional (rare) they get scanned with Imacon X5.

I shoot 35mm only with Xpan, but with 120 my requirements on scan quality are no less, so a flatbed would not cut it.

I used to have a Microtek M1, but it was a PITA to use and the AF was not very reliable.

I would rather shoot a bit less if the scanning costs should become an issue - I have little time for photography nowadays, and I am NOT spending it on scanning. Not to forget that to get proficient with a scanner it takes quite some time.

Tokoza 01-12-2014 07:06

I got a Plustek 8100 recently. My Epson v500 was not sharp enough for 35mm.



I create linear scans with SilverFast and convert the positives with Colorperfect.

helenhill 01-12-2014 08:51

plustek 7600i

Quite Pleased with it...of course there is probably BETTER
though for me its Compact, easy to maneuver, does the job,and fits my needs

lam 01-12-2014 08:53

I use a Pakon F-135 Plus for general purpose 35mm scanning (8x10 print size is more than enough for me, and/or posting on the web)

For archiving specific photos on a roll I use my Microtek ArtixScan 120TF.

emmef2 01-12-2014 09:03

Canon 9000F for web scans, prints are still made in the darkroom (but not much unfortunately due to limited time)
I am practicing using a digital camera as scanner

x-ray 01-12-2014 09:59

Imacon 848. Used a Fuji Lanovia Quattro until a year and a half ago.

SayCheese 01-12-2014 10:36

Reflecta CrystalScan 7200 here. IQ is easily good enough for me, but it is slow and loud. I usually get 3 keepers on a 36 Roll of film, so i definitely have to edit my films down before scanning.

Regards, Klaus

Pioneer 01-12-2014 10:51

For 35mm I use my little Plustek 7600i most of the time but I do occasionally use the Epson v500 as well.

If I do find a negative that I want to print big then I send it to a lab to have it scanned professionally.

Of course I do use regular analogue enlarging and printing as well but since there was only one choice...:)

edge100 01-12-2014 11:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by lam (Post 2285191)
I use a Pakon F-135 Plus for general purpose 35mm scanning (8x10 print size is more than enough for me, and/or posting on the web)

For archiving specific photos on a roll I use my Microtek ArtixScan 120TF.

That sounds like a sensible workflow. I need to try something similar…..


:):):):)

JPSuisse 01-12-2014 11:45

I use a Nikon 5000 with VueScan.

After scanning, to a RAW DNG, I tag the files with ExifTool.

Then import to Lightroom and manage from there.

I would love to have a darkroom, but alas, :(, that is not in the cards for the foreseeable future...

I am quite happy with the results and the DAM. But it was tedious to get this far. Now, the work goes quickly.

julescasablancas 01-12-2014 12:08

I'm using Epson V600 with the supplied program and ANR glass. Tried using Vuescan but it's too complicated for simpleton like me :B

I scan to tiff and do the dust removal and/or add a bit of contrast in Lightroom 5

dct 01-12-2014 12:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matus (Post 2285145)
I send all my films to a lab which uses Coolscan 5000 and 9000 for rather reasonably priced scans. I usually get 8bit JPEG scans of everything at medium resolution (2000) and if some frames are exceptional (rare) they get scanned with Imacon X5.

I shoot 35mm only with Xpan, but with 120 my requirements on scan quality are no less, so a flatbed would not cut it.

I used to have a Microtek M1, but it was a PITA to use and the AF was not very reliable.

I would rather shoot a bit less if the scanning costs should become an issue - I have little time for photography nowadays, and I am NOT spending it on scanning. Not to forget that to get proficient with a scanner it takes quite some time.

+1 for the highlighted sentences. I have a Plustek 7200i 35mm and a hp5590 flatbed scanner at home, but I don't use them since years.

Zurich Enge School


CV 15/4.5 on Bessa-L with Ilford XP2 Super 400
Shot with ISO 320, processed C-41 and scanned with Noritsu Minilab

krötenblender 01-12-2014 12:25

I used to use a dedicated 35mm Film/Dia-Scanner (Reflecta Crystal Scan 7200). But since a short time I use a different approach: I bought a Leica BEOON from the 1950ies and use the Leica M240 with a 50mm Summilux ASPH at f11 to create 1:1 macro shots. The lens and negative holder are comletely shielded against reflective or stray light with some really sophisticated small black card board constructs... :D As light source I use a iPad with bright white sceen and a diffusor glass plate over it, where the BEOON stands on.

This gives me very fast and very high quality "scans" of my 35mm and 6x6 negatives and dias and is pretty fast. My reflecta needs about 7 Minutes per negative, my setup takes about 30s for one, including placing the negative, blowing dust away and such. It's much better than any scanner I ever used and I'm pretty happy about the quality. The only down point is that there is no automatic dust removal and for color negatives one has to figure out a good workflow and color management. But for BW this is much easier.

Ko.Fe. 01-12-2014 13:54

V500 to be able to do both 135 and 120 at low-cost budget.
Results are OK. Do wet prints as well.

Stuart John 01-12-2014 14:06

I use a V500 and am experimenting with the Nikon PB4 bellows and PS4 slide/film holder attachment attached to a D800. I also wet print too. B&W wet prints are what I really like though.


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