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bayusuputra 02-07-2011 21:59

Finally, X100
 
i just found out THIS

US$1199.95

how do you all feel?


excited?

so so?

this is bad news?

Cheers! :D

iamzip 02-07-2011 22:01

I was pretty sure I wouldn't be able to afford it anyway. Maybe when I graduate in a few years.

Vilk 02-07-2011 22:26

why didn't i go into milk pail manufacture? :bang:

bgb 02-07-2011 22:28

$1,549.41 New Zealand Dollars ... maybe more.

I still want to have a look at it and read all the reviews

:)

fotomeow 02-07-2011 22:33

I love the concepts/controls of this camera,...... but only 720p video? they can do better than that ........ I 'spose they did this deliberately, so the next one with the 1080p will be the "upgrade" model in 6 months.......

kdemas 02-07-2011 22:57

Psssssst....Amazon is taking pre-orders :)

gavinlg 02-07-2011 23:12

Where's the "OMG THE PRICE HAS BEEN DRIVEN UP BY FORUM HYPE!!!! LOL!!1!" crew?


collarge 02-07-2011 23:54

finepix x100 images
 
Finally some images from the x100, I think its going to have the usual issues in night colour shots, and some auto white balance issues, great for black and white, probably needs an orange filter for more punch. Love the fact the shutter is in the lens, has a gentle shutter tick just like the the Mamiya 7

Better resolution than the Leica M8 but at the sacrifice of one lens, a second hand M8 is still very attractive

http://www.finepix-x100.com/en/gallery/images

coelacanth 02-07-2011 23:55

Placed Amazon preorder for now. Let's see...

maenju 02-08-2011 00:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by collarge (Post 1541641)
Finally some images from the x100, I think its going to have the usual issues in night colour shots, and some auto white balance issues, great for black and white, probably needs an orange filter for more punch. Love the fact the shutter is in the lens, has a gentle shutter tick just like the the Mamiya 7

Better resolution than the Leica M8 but at the sacrifice of one lens, a second hand M8 is still very attractive

http://www.finepix-x100.com/en/gallery/images

Don't really see the better resolution compared to the M8, but it does look pretty decent. Seems like a great second digital body in addition to the M8, though to be fair it's still unclear which one would be the primary and which one the backup...

_larky 02-08-2011 00:10

Wow, the sample images are so so dull. A camera with this much excitement, and they show cats and flowers. :/

So, what's the UK price then, has that been confirmed?

keithdunlop 02-08-2011 00:18

Those B&W's they posted sure are soft and flat! Hopefully the RAW files won't look like this.

maenju 02-08-2011 00:21

yeah, the jpg engine doesn't seem to be especially good, with the in-camera b&w even worse. however, the lens seems to be ok, for example:
http://d2b8yfhnsfhl3f.cloudfront.net/x100/DSCF3750.JPG
(at full aperture)

_larky 02-08-2011 00:43

It's really hard to judge from these. It looks like they just hung the thing from some random guys neck and had it fire away at random.

shyoon 02-08-2011 01:06

For any Aussies that are interested in preordering the Jesus camera, Vanbar are taking orders. Decent price as well - AUD$1,295.

Preorder here.

Ronny 02-08-2011 01:08

Nothing special.

_larky 02-08-2011 01:27

"the Jesus camera" - :D

videogamemaker 02-08-2011 01:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by fotomeow (Post 1541601)
I love the concepts/controls of this camera,...... but only 720p video? they can do better than that ........ I 'spose they did this deliberately, so the next one with the 1080p will be the "upgrade" model in 6 months.......

Who really cares? No one is going to be using this for filming TV episodes. Do you really need to upload youtube clips of cat tricks and kids playing at 1080p? It's a still camera, I wouldn't even cry if it had no video capabilities. 720p is more than sufficient should I ever feel like capturing a quick moving clip.

Krzys 02-08-2011 01:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgb (Post 1541595)
$1,549.41 New Zealand Dollars ... maybe more.

I still want to have a look at it and read all the reviews

:)

A camera store in Riccarton, Christchurch claims to be the first to get this camera in NZ and told me the price will be $1700-1800.

Brian Sweeney 02-08-2011 03:03

Is the case and vented hood included with the camera, or are those extra?

squirrel$$$bandit 02-08-2011 03:09

I'm gonna wait for the first shipment and see how you all like it...

videogamemaker 02-08-2011 03:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Sweeney (Post 1541705)
Is the case and vented hood included with the camera, or are those extra?

Case, hood, and even the filter adaptor are all separate extras. I'm interested what the "protective cover" is, since they already listed the lens cap. Probably just a cloth pouch.

Accessories included
Li-ion battery NP-95
Battery charger BC-65N
Shoulder strap
USB cable for the FinePix X100
Lens cap
Metal strap clip
Protective cover
Clip attaching tool
CD-ROM (Viewer software, RAW File Converter etc. *3 )
Owner's manual

Optional accessories
Li-ion battery NP-95
Battery charger BC-65N
Leather case LC-X100
Lens hood LH-X100
Adapter ring AR-X100
Shoe mount flash EF-20, EF-42

MCTuomey 02-08-2011 03:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by maenju (Post 1541644)
Don't really see the better resolution compared to the M8, but it does look pretty decent.

X100's 12.3 mpx vs M8's 10.3 mpx

retnull 02-08-2011 03:41

The images look good. Life-changing? NO. But, they look very good for a small digital camera.

In my experience, Fuji lenses have a certain delicate or gentle personality. I see this quality in the sample images here.

maenju 02-08-2011 03:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by MCTuomey (Post 1541719)
X100's 12.3 mpx vs M8's 10.3 mpx

For the nominal resolution this is correct, but it doesn't say a lot about the detail capture or actual resolution, given the M8's lack of an anti-aliasing filter and choice of excellent lenses. The Fuji lens may be very good, but you are limited to it.

videogamemaker 02-08-2011 03:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by retnull (Post 1541721)
The images look good. Life-changing? NO. But, they look very good for a small digital camera.

In my experience, Fuji lenses have a certain delicate or gentle personality. I see this quality in the sample images here.

It's not really that the images are expected to be life changing, it's the camera itself that is so exciting.

If these were images from a new aps-c Dslr from sony or canon, only the most anal of pixel peepers would be excited, as this is only a marginal improvement over the d7000 or 60D in noise (and looking like dynamic range too).

It's the fact it is shaping up to offer class leading aps-c quality in a much smaller form factor. If it increases the number of times a photographer has his camera and takes photos, that's what could be "life changing" to that photographer. Having a high quality small camera to carry more often than a dslr. Too often we have to choose between "great image quality", small size, price, and a viewfinder.

Leica X1? no viewfinder and expensive
Nex? No viewfinder (and for now, slow lenses unless you adapt and lose AF)
m4/3? none of the small ones have good integrated viewfinders, and image quality isn't as good as aps-c
real P&S like s90/lx5/XZ-1? No viewfinder and IQ is way behind aps-c
M8/9/RD-1? Price (and it is looking very likely that at least on the noise-in-high-ISO front, the x100 will readily spank all 3 of these)

user237428934 02-08-2011 03:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by retnull (Post 1541721)
The images look good. Life-changing? NO. But, they look very good for a small digital camera.

In my experience, Fuji lenses have a certain delicate or gentle personality. I see this quality in the sample images here.

It's not a small digital camera. It has a DSLR-size crop sensor. So I expect an image quality comparable to the 40D I had once (or even better). Everything less is a complete failure.

Paul T. 02-08-2011 03:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom.w.bn (Post 1541726)
It's not a small digital camera. It has a DSLR-size crop sensor. So I expect an image quality comparable to the 40D I had once (or even better).

I think the point is, that this is a far more compact camera than the D40.

Yes, I should hope that quality will exceed the 40D, or the D3000, ot more or less twice the price.

I love the look of that OVF, but as ever it looks like we are expected to pay a 100% premium for the smaller form factor and lack of zoom etc.

Spyro 02-08-2011 04:14

What always disappointed me from the dawn of digicams was digital colour. Which was to be expected because it was filmmakers business to make awesome colour palettes, it was Kodak and Fuji who had that experience and tradition, not Canon or Nikon. But because Fuji and Kodak never made a digital camera that I liked, I was basically stuck with tragic and unnatural looking jpegs made by CaNikon, or a raw file that demanded of me to reinvent the wheel. From what I've seen so far, Fuji is about to change all that. I like the camera, and I love the colours.

btgc 02-08-2011 05:24

When it will be in store, I'll walk down the street and see the thing. Why boil blood before I can see one in life?

One is for sure, successful or not, X100 will open gate and start new flow in compact camera market. As it's noted before and in this thread too, in future cameraphones will basically eliminate $100-200 P&S market.

jsrockit 02-08-2011 05:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by fotomeow (Post 1541601)
I love the concepts/controls of this camera,...... but only 720p video? they can do better than that ........ I 'spose they did this deliberately, so the next one with the 1080p will be the "upgrade" model in 6 months.......

or maybe because the focus is on still photography and video is an afterthought... :bang:

monochromejrnl 02-08-2011 06:00

27 sample images and ALL shot at ISO200 :bang:

Thardy 02-08-2011 06:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by _larky (Post 1541645)
Wow, the sample images are so so dull. A camera with this much excitement, and they show cats and flowers. :/

So, what's the UK price then, has that been confirmed?

In order to not be totally shocked, I would say take the US price and just use UK currency, so about 1200 + some fudge factor.

jsrockit 02-08-2011 06:02

I never trust images from the company's website... I'll wait for reviews in order to look at sample images. I'm excited about this camera, but god damn, release the thing already...it's getting long in the tooth listening to the fujinerds.

videogamemaker 02-08-2011 06:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by monochromejrnl (Post 1541822)
27 sample images and ALL shot at ISO200 :bang:

This one is at 400, but yeah I know what you mean.

videogamemaker 02-08-2011 06:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsrockit (Post 1541824)
I never trust images from the company's website... I'll wait for reviews in order to look at sample images. I'm excited about this camera, but god damn, release the thing already...it's getting long in the tooth listening to the fujinerds.

Yep, especially since example images are always jpegs with NR on. I will gladly take noise with the details that stay behind, rather than smeary NR, so I want to see Raw directly to jpeg with only chroma noise reduced.

Paul T. 02-08-2011 06:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thardy (Post 1541823)
In order to not be totally shocked, I would say take the US price and just use UK currency, so about 1200 + some fudge factor.

UK price is announced as 999.

A straight conversion from dollars, plus VAT would be 900.

Thardy 02-08-2011 06:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul T. (Post 1541835)
UK price is announced as 999.

A straight conversion from dollars, plus VAT would be 900.

Well, at least that's fair.

cjcm 02-08-2011 06:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by monochromejrnl (Post 1541822)
27 sample images and ALL shot at ISO200 :bang:


Yes. Most @200 iso, and only one @400 Iso :-(

There still must be something to tweak on high iso. I am 100% sure that I have seen few hours ago on this picture gallery a picture of a street at night in sepia colors, and from what I have seen on my Iphone, shadows were very / completly dark... this picture has disappeared now !!!

On the picture samples in the gallery mentionned above (http://www.finepix-x100.com/en/gallery/images) several samples with snow seem to show also a lack of exposure latitude (... althought it could be a wrong exposure ... ).

GSNfan 02-08-2011 06:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by videogamemaker (Post 1541825)
This one is at 400, but yeah I know what you mean.

That image is shot at ISO400, but with -1.3EV and a shutter speed of 1/30. So in other words that is also an ISO 200 photo.


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