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Old 07-05-2009   #81
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Be patient Keith, keep your eyes open while you're saving and eating noodles, and you will find MF deals. I've seen Hasselblad CM kits sell for $500. I just got a Rollei TLR for $80. An f3.5 Rollei is the Leica II/III of MF cameras, and a Hasselblad is like a Leica M. IMO, these are the most elegant MF cameras.
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In a word: Rubbish. I have been using mine on a tripod a lot. At 1 to 1/15 sec. No worries. Handheld, I try to stay around 1/250. MAYBE, if I looked at negatives with a microscope, I might think differently. But I don't.
Wayne,

Not sure if a it is quite the same as a microscope, but I have been all over those pictures of yours as they were originally scanned - - I know that you can read the license plates of the cars parked across the street from the bar... there is no need to doubt or undersell the quality of the focus and the stability of that camera.

I agree with Wayne - - a lot of that talk is rubbish... probably being promulgated by people whose MF cameras have leaf shutters.
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A fantastic thread Keith has started here. I have to agree “Long Live Medium Format” My photo contribution to it are all Double Exposures with a Mamiya 7II and Tri-X.







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This was taken with an RB67 and Kodak 400VC
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Wish that I could shoot MF all the time... thanks for the great thread Keith!

Vince Donovan and Todd Hanz's photographs motivated me to start shooting MF. Thanks gentlemen!



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I'll add one of my favorite recent 6x6 images that is outside of my usual subject matter.
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Wayne,

Not sure if a it is quite the same as a microscope, but I have been all over those pictures of yours as they were originally scanned - - I know that you can read the license plates of the cars parked across the street from the bar... there is no need to doubt or undersell the quality of the focus and the stability of that camera.

I agree with Wayne - - a lot of that talk is rubbish... probably being promulgated by people whose MF cameras have leaf shutters.
Thanks Westley. One never knows what to believe on the internet. Independent verification is always good.
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Thanks Westley. One never knows what to believe on the internet. Independent verification is always good.
have not read all of this thread, as it's time a poor old soul like me was heading for dreamland ( under the sheets, not on the internet! )...but Wayne - when are you going to thrill me with some of those 4x5 shots?
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have not read all of this thread, as it's time a poor old soul like me was heading for dreamland ( under the sheets, not on the internet! )...but Wayne - when are you going to thrill me with some of those 4x5 shots?
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I don't know if you will be thrilled, but here are links to some of my 4x5 photos.

Enchanted Rock

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http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/ven...oom+1.jpg.html

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Be patient Keith, keep your eyes open while you're saving and eating noodles, and you will find MF deals. I've seen Hasselblad CM kits sell for $500. I just got a Rollei TLR for $80. An f3.5 Rollei is the Leica II/III of MF cameras, and a Hasselblad is like a Leica M. IMO, these are the most elegant MF cameras.
Hi Frank ... I was hoping you'd make an appearance in this thread. After all my first real (as in not Russian ) MF camera came from you quite a while ago when I swapped my M5 for the Bronica RF645 I now use and love! I notice the M5 has moved on to a couple of subsequent owners but the Bronica has stuck with me and continues to gain my respect and admiration with each roll of film I put through it. It's the camera that effectively opened up a different world for me and I would have to recommend the RF645 as a stepping stone into MF for anyone who's bored with puny 35mm negs!

I was making a list of all my gear last night and thinking very hard about what can possibly be flogged off to get into a Hasselblad system ... there's a couple of seldom used high value 35mm rangefinders that are on very shaky ground!
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Great thread with lots of fantastic reasons to shoot medium format!

It looks like you made it to your farm by dawn Keith; must have been an early start! It looks like it was well and truly worth it judging by the great shots.

I've never used a Pentax 67, but there's certainly a lot of rubbish written about handholding mf cameras. I only put mine on a tripod when exposures are getting really slow.

Shiro Kuro, I really enjoyed your shots - they're just wonderful!
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Hi Jay, thanks for the compliment. I agree with the others that the portraits you posted are pure joy. I think shallow DOF plus the detail of medium format creates a nice puzzle for the eye.

I'm in New Zealand right now getting ready to shoot portraits of a local rugby team. I'll be sure to post some here when they are ready. (which won't be until I return to the states in August).
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yashicamat, mamiya c330, kowa super 66, mamiya rb67,mamiya c220, mamiya rz67, mamiya c220 again (with 65yummy)
then digital....................
some MF pinhole cameras got me back into MF
yashica 24, some folders, iskra (kind of working now, got a film in it!!!)
just resealed my new rb67 and ready to go with that

I might get pounced on for this, but 35mm, why bother at all? thats what digital is for. (YMMV, thats how it is for me) Actually I am going to try some 35mm 400 nc soon for a couple portrait session for that grainy look.

But yeah, film for me = medium or large format, but MF wins mostly because it has the convenience of 35 and better quality than what I currently get from digital.

Nice photos everyone!
here is one of the ones (scanned on v700 from rz67) that convinced me to search for another rb67 recently
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I'm coming to the conclusion, Goldilocks style, that medium format is where I need to be. I love my old folders, but I am really wanting a Mamiya 7.
Only problem is parting with some of my less used gear to get it.

Anyway...here are a couple from my Balda Baldax, a camera I will not be parted from.



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One of the things about the modern(ish) MF rangefinders is their ease of use IMO! Aside from a little extra weight my Bronica is no less user friendly for a day out shooting than any 35mm camera I own ... I would imagine a Mamiya 7 would be much the same deal!
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love this thread. id share my pics but so far i dont have a scanner for it. I mostly shoot PANF, astia 100F and ektachrome EPP. i have a few rolls of Ektar im egar to try.
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Hi Jay, thanks for the compliment. I agree with the others that the portraits you posted are pure joy. I think shallow DOF plus the detail of medium format creates a nice puzzle for the eye.

I'm in New Zealand right now getting ready to shoot portraits of a local rugby team. I'll be sure to post some here when they are ready. (which won't be until I return to the states in August).
You are welcome. I agree with you about the shallow depth of field. The depth of field control available with MF helps me photograph how my mind's eye sees...

Rugby! I used to play rugby in college on into my thirties. The parties were outrageous and almost fun as playing. I hope that part has not changed! Have fun at the beer slides!
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Cool Ultra wide pano

It's taken about a zillion attempts. Hugin finally managed to stich 3 frames together correctly. Just in time for this homage to medium format.

Greune Hall, Greune, TX. Oldest dance hall in Texas. 3 frames. Hugin stitched. Pentax 6x7, 45mm lens, HP5+, Gitzo and RRS BH-55. I'm not pleased with the post processing of the indiviual photos. However, Hugin refuses to process the corrected files. Software. Go figure.




You can follow this link and click the Full Size icon for a larger view.

http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/ven...+Pano.jpg.html
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I don't want to clutter up the forum with an 'about to pull the trigger' thread, so I'll ask here.
I'm looking at a Kiev 60 with both a wlf and ttl prism finder and an arsat 80 for about $100 shipped (provided there isn't a last minute bidding frenzy), any opinions/warnings?
Well, the ones that work, often work, and the others, often do not.

Takes a skilled repairman to put them right, I had the diaphragm leaves put back in the 80mm in Prague. TTL prism finder is heavy, would rather use the WLF.

I shot with a Pentacon 6, again, reliability problems.

I have sent several back to Prague for reasonable service, had a Kiev 88 shutter replaced, shipped to Prague, then Ukraine, and back.

Lenses work on Mamiya 645 bodies with an adapter, which is the way I prefer to use my 30mm Fisheye.

$100? not too bad of a gamble, you will know with the first roll if it is working. I have one that is rebuilt which seems to be good.


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Well, that one got away, but there are a few others for about $150 that are tempting me. I'm a bit intimidated by the reliability issues, but they seem to be just about the only mf slr in my price range.
Thank you for the advice.
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I wanted to see firsthand a MF film in person. I picked up a Yashica 124 at a camera show and loaded it with some Ilford XP2. At the time I didn't develop my own film so C-41 it was. I drove down to the bay and walked along the water. These were my first MF shots, I was hooked.



Nice shots Darren! - the Yashica and XP2 are a great combo!, BTW I thought there was only one person able to "walk along the water"
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Well, that one got away, but there are a few others for about $150 that are tempting me. I'm a bit intimidated by the reliability issues, but they seem to be just about the only mf slr in my price range.
Thank you for the advice.
Keep looking, and you should be able to get a Bronica SQ-B or the older S2a for a similar price. Another option is a Kowa.

However, there is no reason why you can't get a decent, reliable Pentacon 6TL. Buy from a reputable seller, one that services them, (for example, cupog on ebay is usually good), and you should be set.
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I don't know if you will be thrilled, but here are links to some of my 4x5 photos.

Enchanted Rock

Zedler's Mills

http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/ven...oom+1.jpg.html

Thanks for asking.
thanks for the link Wayne!...nice work! - BTW I was'nt being facetious!
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What about an Arax? It's a custom "refurbed" Kiev. They basically fix all the things that are wrong with them as they come from the factory.

http://www.araxphoto.com/

seconded! this is how i got into MF. the arax 60 also has an added mirror lock up feature, which is handy... some of the carl zeiss jena lenses are really, really good.
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thanks for the link Wayne!...nice work! - BTW I was'nt being facetious!
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gian- wonderful portraits, especially the third one.

The Arax-60 kit starts at $349, and SQ-b sets seem to go for close to $600, not quite a comprable price.

Right now I'm watching a few Pentax 6x7 auctions, and if they look like they're going for around $200, I'm pouncing on one.

Another photo from my Yashica (Superia 200):
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Inspiring work by everyone.

Pentax 6x7's are a lot of fun. Mine has some serious frame-spacing issues, but I've found that the mirror/shutter slap issues are overstated - it's totally suitable for hand held work, as long as you know the limitations. And it's easier to sling across the body than a Rollei or the box shaped SLR's with film-backs, so it is a viable walk around camera.

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thanks shadowfox... but that wouldn't be a good idea
thanks morca007... yes, that's one of my personal favs... my 2008 died grandfather!
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gian, what paper are you printing on? I love the tone of those!
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Yeah, I'll be there too. Gian, that is beautiful work.
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Ahhh... Keith... medium-format... if I could find the right medium-format camera with the right lens, I would probably never shoot 35mm again. Something like the Fuji G690 with a 100mm f2.0 would be my ideal camera.

At the moment I shoot the Norita 66, Mamiya C220 and a Zeiss Ikon 6x9 folder.

Here are a few of my favorites...


Norita 66 | Meyer Optik Orestegor 300mm f4.0 | Ilford Pan F Plus | Rodinal 1:100 Stand


Norita 66 | Meyer Optik Orestegor 300mm f4.0 | Tri-X 320 EI 320 | Rodinal 1:100 Stand


Norita 66 | Noritar 80mm f2.0 | Tri-X 320 EI 320 | HC-110 Dilution B


Norita 66 | Noritar 80mm f2.0 | Tri-X EI 400 | D76 Stock
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This is the Pentax 67 I was watching on Australian eBay .. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=220444778017

It went for a fair bit more than I thought it would!


PLynne Miller .... I was reading on Dante Stella's site about the Norita 66 and he reckons the 80mm f2 lens is the MF equivalent of the Noctilux.

Feel free to show us more shots from that lens!
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Keith, I was quite surprised at the price that one sold for, until I saw that it came with three lenses. Those lenses go for a pretty penny judging by keh. The one I was trying for came with a prism finder and the 105 2.8, and went for $211, I wish I'd bid just a little higher, but oh well, maybe I'll get the next one. :P
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