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Old 02-08-2019   #1
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Voigtlander Color Skopar 21mm F3.5 Aspherical Image Thread

I got this lens yesterday and thought some samples would be of interest. Good and sharp as the scenic shows and nearly distortion free when shot straight on. A terrific lens, perfect on my M9.

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Old 02-08-2019   #2
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Looks good to me. (That don't look like Eureka)

I've been considering this lens...

Try any flare-prone situations? Do you have/use a hood for this lens?
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Looks good to me. (That don't look like Eureka)

I've been considering this lens...

Try any flare-prone situations? Do you have/use a hood for this lens?
I have one shot that was into the sun, trying to get a sunstar, the star wasn't too great and there was a single blob of red flare, easily removed with the spot tool in LR. I got the hood too.
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How do you code it on the M9? Is there any red edge? I'm intrigued by this lens as it might be a good smaller alternative to the excellent Zeiss Biogon 21mm.
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I used the 21mm choice of the three Tri Elmar choices. What I posted is straight from the camera RAW file converted to jpg with no corrections. I had the Zeiss 21 and actually like the CV better, not as contrasty and more compact.
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I got this lens yesterday and thought some samples would be of interest. Good and sharp as the scenic shows and nearly distortion free when shot straight on. A terrific lens, perfect on my M9.
Mmh, I would not call this "nearly distortion free", see some nice barrel distortion

But, thanks for the first examples!
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Mmh, I would not call this "nearly distortion free", see some nice barrel distortion

But, thanks for the first examples!
That's why I said "Nearly". Pretty minimal barrel I thought.
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I am looking at Voigtländer 21s. The field is crowded! I think the Ultron may be too large for my purposes but there is still a choice between the f4 Color-Skopar and the f3.5 ASPH. Does anyone have an opinion as to how they compare or point me to an internet reference? I don't find much info on the f3.5 on a Leica M.
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Here's a real technical report: I'm totally tickled with mine. The pictures I posted above are straight from the camera, just resized jpgs from my M9.
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Here's a real technical report: I'm totally tickled with mine. The pictures I posted above are straight from the camera, just resized jpgs from my M9.
Only two pictures doesn't really tell anything.
Why not take some more on different apertures, distances and light to show them here? Please.
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Here's a real technical report: I'm totally tickled with mine. The pictures I posted above are straight from the camera, just resized jpgs from my M9.
Yes, they look very good from what I can tell. But would there be any significant difference if shot with the f4? There is quite a price differential, especially if the lens shade is purchased.
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Yes, they look very good from what I can tell. But would there be any significant difference if shot with the f4? There is quite a price differential, especially if the lens shade is purchased.
The 3.5 is supposed to be better behaved with digital sensors. The 21 f4 tends to have magenta sides on digital.

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The 3.5 is supposed to be better behaved with digital sensors. The 21 f4 tends to have magenta sides on digital.

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Not at all of them. M9 is free if you code it right.
M240 seems to not supporting it.
And if your digital is crop here is none.
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The coding is trying to correct for the color cast. The lens color cast is there, just that the camera is trying to adjust for it.

I get magenta sides on the m240 and the Sony A7RII. There are slight color shifts on crop sensors too but they are subtle.

As I said... the 3.5 is supposed to be better behaved on digital sensors.

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My M262 would probably react similarly to the M240. I think I'll opt for the f3.5. I hope it'll be as good as my Nokton 35mm f1.2.
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Me and daughter #2, with the new Color Skopar and my faithful M100.



I _like_ the lens.
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Here's a real technical report: I'm totally tickled with mine. The pictures I posted above are straight from the camera, just resized jpgs from my M9.

Thanks for posting sample pictures, but this one does not look 'straight from the camera'





Can you post the original that wasn't perspective corrected?
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Can you post the original that wasn't perspective corrected?
I was going to ask the same thing. Mine is certainly sharp and rectilinear enough for anything that I will use it for



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I was going to ask the same thing. Mine is certainly sharp and rectilinear enough for anything that I will use it for

Roland.
Nice photo!

I think distortion starts to show up more in the outer areas of the frame. Personally I'm not really worried about it either though. I have hundreds of photos from the 21/4 color Skopar that don't show distortion that I'm concerned about, and the slightly more complex distortion of the new 21/3.5 Color Skopar doesn't look like a concern for me either.

Looking forward to seeing more of your work with the new 21mm Color Skopar!
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Quite like the colours this little lens delivers!

Voigtlander Color-Skopar 21mm F3.5 by Jon, on Flickr


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Quite like the colours this little lens delivers!

Voigtlander Color-Skopar 21mm F3.5 by Jon, on Flickr
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Thanks for posting these Jon, falloff, corner resolution and distortion all look improved from the 21/4.

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Thanks for posting sample pictures, but this one does not look 'straight from the camera'





Can you post the original that wasn't perspective corrected?
No perspective correction, I just leveled it out of habit.
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No perspective correction, I just leveled it out of habit.
Just leveled, ok, good to know. Thanks!
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Great photo Roland! Can yo repost again without the pink boxes? Also, if you have others, would love to see them.

Can anyone speak to the build quality?

And on an M240--no excessive post-processing required?

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I got my first roll shot with VC's new Vintage Line 21mm f3.5 processed and like what I am seeing from this great little lens.

These are snapshots I shot with the lens mounted on my Leica M1, so naturally all scale focus. These aren't really test shots for evaluating this lens' performance, but might still be able to get some idea about performance from them. The river shot was shot wide open, and everything was safely at infinity distance.

These shots are HP5+ developed in SPD for 8 min @ 20c. Digitization was done with my Canon 40D and 50mm f2.5 Compact Macro. Images converted to positive and contrast adjusted in Photoshop.


Oide


Near Ogawa


footbath


Hakuba Tanpopo


Shot wide open at f3.5

Hira river


Pochi takoyaki



creek by torii




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I owned the current FE version but eventually sold it to buy the older LTM f/4 version for film/digital consolidation. I believe the optical formula is nearly identical between the current M and FE versions, with very minor tweaks to account for different sensor stacks.

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That lens is OUTSTANDING. Minimal distortion (I mean, cmon it's a 21mm) extremely sharp from wide open, tiny with excellent build and handling. There is a *very* slight cyan cast to the edges when you disable the baked-in corrections, but you have to know what you are looking for.

Like I said, I didn't sell it because I wasn't happy with it, I sold it because I love 21mm FOV and couldn't afford to have two lenses for different systems. The older LTM version is no slouch either, but it doesn't do nearly as well on Sony digital in the corners.
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I have the lens for 2 days now..since now, i like it very much!
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All these shots look great but am wondering if it's worth the extra $380 price increase from the f4? I'm looking for a 21mm so I'm thinking the f4 especially since I'll have to drop $200 on a VL 21/25mm VF but am wondering if it's worth saving up some more cash...
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All these shots look great but am wondering if it's worth the extra $380 price increase from the f4? I'm looking for a 21mm so I'm thinking the f4 especially since I'll have to drop $200 on a VL 21/25mm VF but am wondering if it's worth saving up some more cash...

I had the LTM f4 version and it is a fantastic little lens (I only shot it on film). It has more fall off and less sharpness in the corners at larger apertures than the f3.5, but probably not that relevant for most photos. The f3.5 also seems to have less barrel distortion, but I never thought the slight barrel distortion of the f4 version was an issue.
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VM Color Skopar 21mm f3.5, HP5+



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M10 with VM Color Skopar 21mm f3.5

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i love this lens very much!

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Great light, especially the first version of that image, where I also prefer that composition/pastel-like color rendering best.
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How is it compared to the Zeiss Loxia 21/2.8?
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sorry, i can´t help with the comparison to the Loxia...i can only post some shots with the color skopar, which like more ande more, the more i shoot with it ;-)


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