New Fuji X-H1
Old 02-22-2018   #1
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New Fuji X-H1

Wow.... we’re asleep at the wheel over here for fuji gear.
New camera anounced Feb 15th.
5axis ibis. Xt-1/2 style body.

http://www.fujifilm.com/news/n180215_01.html
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Old 02-22-2018   #2
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If I attempt to follow every announcement, I would have a hard time catching my breath. But the beat goes on.
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Old 02-22-2018   #3
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Well, aside for IBIS, most of the improvements are video related, and the body size grew. Probably not many videographers on RFF.
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I checked it out when announced, but it wasn´t that exciting to me. It´s nice enough, but I already own 3 current generation 24mp Fujis. This is overkill for me in all the wrong ways.
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Yes, I agree with the general sentiment in the thread so far... it's a boring mostly video oriented camera announcement .

That said, If Fuji is now going to include Ibis in future models it would be welcome news for Prime lens users of which there are a lot of in the Fuji camp (hand raised).
Reclaiming a stop or two of iso in low light handheld situations with the f1.4/35mm or one of the "fujicron" trio will be great !
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25% thicker waterproof coating...
5 axis image stabilization...
looks humongous...
much improved video capabilities...

and yet i remain flaccid...
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its kinda Fuji's answer to Panasonic GH5. video is growing, so no wonder.
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Old 02-23-2018   #8
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Probably not many videographers on RFF.
one is here.
It would be nice to see how many others
Anyway I don't see any reason to prefer the Fuji over the GH5
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Old 02-23-2018   #9
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Looks like a bigger camera maybe they're getting ready for full frame!
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Looks like a bigger camera maybe they're getting ready for full frame!
Fuji said in an interview that the size increase was the result or the IBIS mechanism.
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Looks like a bigger camera maybe they're getting ready for full frame!
Probably not Bob... many mirrorless cameras have grown in size recently.
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Looks like a bigger camera maybe they're getting ready for full frame!
Nope.

They already have full frame, the GFX 50S. If sensor area is that important, why get an outdated, tiny 24 x 36 mm sensor when you can have a 43.8 x 32.9mm sensor?
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Fuji said in an interview that the size increase was the result or the IBIS mechanism.
Yes, they did. But this seems odd. Are other cameras with 5-axis IBIS this large and heavy.

I will speculate FUJIFILM is working on a more compact, second generation system.

Anyway the X-H1 is a video oriented product that also benefits people who need to use IBIS with Fujinon XF primes or adapted lenses.

For me, the X-H1 is to large and too heavy and my goals are obtainable without IBIS.
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It is funny how from copy of Leica style at beginning X came to another ugly DSLR style camera.
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The X-T1 was never intended to be a 'Leica copy'. Sorry to burst your bubble. I find the IBIS on the X-H1 attractive, as well as the improved weather sealing, and the grip. I don't own a Fuji X-T2 and the day I'll decide to upgrade my X-T1, I'd prefer the X-H1 over the X-T2 any day, especially since the price difference between the X-T2 and X-H1 is $ 300.
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The X-T1 was never intended to be a 'Leica copy'. Sorry to burst your bubble. I find the IBIS on the X-H1 attractive, as well as the improved weather sealing, and the grip. I don't own a Fuji X-T2 and the day I'll decide to upgrade my X-T1, I'd prefer the X-H1 over the X-T2 any day, especially since the price difference between the X-T2 and X-H1 is $ 300.
I don't think Kofe was referring to the X-T1.

I agree with his comment.
Fuji were alone in making desirable looking cameras.
Unlike all the other mirrorkess companies making ugly SLR
looking cameras with fake prism boxes.

Canon & Nikon have cornered the market in the
last 30years making ugly curvey big SLRs.
It is a shame to see Fuji loosing its design style,
and following the herd.

*Although the top LCD looks a lot like the Leica SL.

PS if your interested in video, ignore the online "review"
videos and watch the Fuji "city of light" documentary
on YouTube to see what the X-H1 can do.

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Well, aside for IBIS, most of the improvements are video related, and the body size grew. Probably not many videographers on RFF.
A few of us - but as much as I love my Fuji's - I won't be using these for that purpose.
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everyone is saying its not good.
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It's the right camera for Fuji to release right now. Fuji has to compete on several different levels and video is one of them. Admittedly, the camera really doesn't appeal to me but I'm not a typical 2018 camera buyer.

IBIS is really nice. I've had several Olympus bodies with IBIS and it works really well. But I really seldom shoot in conditions where I use slow shutter speeds. And having come from the days of pushing Tri-X past the point of no return and still getting usable and sometimes pretty good pictures, I'm good with the high ISO performance of today's digitals.
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everyone is saying its not good.
Not really.

It's good for people who need features required for high-quality video –*including access to FUJIFILM cine lens expertise.

It's good for people who need to use IBIS with Fujinon prime lenses and adapted lenses.

It's good for people who are ready to upgrade and are willing to use a larger, heavier camera to make use of the features I mentioned above.
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It is funny how from copy of Leica style at beginning X came to another ugly DSLR style camera.
Well... Leica has the SL... maybe they copied that?
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everyone is saying its not good.
Where? *nobody said this
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Where? *nobody said this

Indeed; barring insider info, the usual suspects (ephotozine, imaging resource, dp review) have so far released only initial impressions, which, by in large, seem positive.
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I checked it out when announced, but it wasn´t that exciting to me. It´s nice enough, but I already own 3 current generation 24mp Fujis. This is overkill for me in all the wrong ways.
Some nice improvements to the shutter. Better balance with larger lenses.. I like it so far :-)

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Well... Leica has the SL... maybe they copied that?
Nothing could be uglier than that
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Nothing could be uglier than that
Except maybe for some Sonys. To my eyes many Sony cameras look either cobbled together from mismatched parts or they look altogether unfinished.

And yet they apparently function really well. Ugly is relative.
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Except maybe for some Sonys. To my eyes many Sony cameras look either cobbled together from mismatched parts or they look altogether unfinished.

And yet they apparently function really well. Ugly is relative.
I thought the new Sony A7R3 felt much more refined than the previous generation models. Still better than the SL
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More refined shutter, IBIS, better evf. larger grip.......... better balance with 90mm and 50-140mm

It's also more responsive than the XT2.

There's quite a few refinements... Possible Fuji haven't listed all the tweaks....

I'm really impressed...

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You guys and your camera wars... all of these cameras are very nice IMO.
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I bought one. Here are two pictures I shot this morning at Belcrum Beach Breda. Lens used: Voigtländer 15mm f/4.5 with LM/FX adapter. JPEGs straight from camera (only scaled down), shot in Velvia simulation with Grain Effect set on "weak", Highlight Tone -2, Shadow Tone +2, Colour -2. Next I will try my Leica glass with more neutral settings, and also B&W.



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How does an APS-C camera get that much bigger and that much heavier (it's very close in size/weight to a comparable DSLR) without adding a bigger battery? Same old NP-W126s! Sony got this right in the latest round of updates. Yeah, I know the add-on grip holds two now, but still!
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Well, Fujifilm has directly said that they targeted not only video users, but DSLR users as well with this model. Per this interview...

https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/...for-dslr-users

¨According to Mr. Watanabe, one of the most requested features from Fujifilm's X-series customers was a bigger grip. The X-H1 gets bigger everythings, just about. Obviously this means that the camera is bigger as a result, but Fujifilm is hoping that this will make the X-H1 appeal to more traditional DSLR users.¨
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Well, Fujifilm has directly said that they targeted not only video users, but DSLR users as well with this model.
Is that why they made it bigger?
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Is that why they made it bigger?
From the same interview...

¨The X-H1 is considerably larger than its predecessors. Is there a point when the size advantage of APS-C compared to full-frame gets lost?

Professionals are generally more accepting of larger cameras, and [compared to DSLRs] the X-H1 isn’t that big. And we have had requests from some of our professional users for a bigger camera, especially those photographers that use our longer lenses. A bigger grip and more solid body were both requested.¨
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From the same interview...

¨The X-H1 is considerably larger than its predecessors. Is there a point when the size advantage of APS-C compared to full-frame gets lost?

Professionals are generally more accepting of larger cameras, and [compared to DSLRs] the X-H1 isn’t that big. And we have had requests from some of our professional users for a bigger camera, especially those photographers that use our longer lenses. A bigger grip and more solid body were both requested.¨
makes sense...even though i am on the other side of that fence...the xe3 is perfection as far as size goes...for me.
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I also prefer smaller cameras. So I'm hoping Fuji will incorporate the image stabilization into the next XE model.
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Played with a friend's review sample. Very solid, shutter sound is almost inaudible. The E-ink top panel (that remains on when the camera is off) is a great addition, even at the cost of the exposure compensation dial.

The battery life is what bars it from true professional scenarios. They need a new battery!
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makes sense...even though i am on the other side of that fence...the xe3 is perfection as far as size goes...for me.
I hope Fuji continues to make the X100, XPro, and XE lines. It would be a shame if they became another me too company. For me, the X-Pro line is perfection. It might not sell as well, but I think it is an important model for Fuji.
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It might not sell as well, but I think it is an important model for Fuji.
I have come to like Fuji but I don't quite understand what you are trying to say here. Feel free to explain. Cheers, Peter
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