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Rant: Why I Hate Living in a Small Town.
Old 03-19-2006   #1
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Rant: Why I Hate Living in a Small Town.

There's no flipping E-6 processing for 70 miles!

I decided to take some sunrise shots because, lo and behold, I go upstairs to get coffee and find these INCREDIBLE pink and orange colors staring me right in the face. So, naturally, I pick up the roll of Kodak Elite Chrome 400 that I have sitting around, load it in the camera, and shoot it. Now I have to either wait until I order the mailers to get it developed or go to Des Moines to the closest lab with same day turnaround for E-6.

What would this particular film do if I had someone dunk it in C-41 chemicals, I wonder. And, really, with how gorgeous these colors are, do I want to know?

So yeah. Bah. This sucks. It'll be a week or so before you guys can see them, probably at the earliest.
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Steph,

I don't think you would want to cross-process sunrise E-6 shots. Although it might give you some really odd color combinations.

Buy a few E-6 mailers and have patience little one.

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I send mine to Fuji ans it's worth the wait. Anticipation will improve the colors.
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Move to a bigger city, start your own E-6 lab, or use color negative film

or just have a bit of patience! I wouldn't try developing it in c41 that's for sure..
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I know how you feel I live in a small country (Israel) in a large but backward city(Beer Sheba). The city is poor and uneducated allthough it has one of the biggest universities in the country(90% of students come from other cities and move after their finished their degree) and still we have one of the highest city taxes in the country.

It is impossible to get decent scans and 120 film(or 120 c-41 color proccessed or scanned). BW film is scarce and overpriced(7-8$ A ROLL) chemicals are unavailable.
A lab near my house does hand developing for e-6 though.

I have to drive for 1.5 hours to Tel Aviv and for another hour or two in the city to get bw film in bulk chemicals etc.
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I'm just frustrated. Beautiful shots and nowhere to get them processed. I suppose it's time to finally do one of two things: order mailers from B&H or order chemicals to do it myself.
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I guess that the USA is getting out of film faster than Canada.
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E6 processing is very straight forward as long as you are careful with temperature. Can be a bit expensive if you don't do it in batches which rather defeats the object of speed.

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OT:lou reed has a good song "when you live in a small town"
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The old Lou Reed band played with Alice Cooper's, "Welcome to my Nightmare," gigs. Excellent band. I saw them both way back when I was just a youngin'.
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E6 processing is very straight forward as long as you are careful with temperature. Can be a bit expensive if you don't do it in batches which rather defeats the object of speed.

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Yeah, which is actually why I was avoiding it. I don't shoot that much in color positive...it wouldn't be economical for me to do it myself. If I started shooting more, though...
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by the old lou reed band you dont mean the velvet underground?
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it might be economical if you bulk load

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I'm be afraid to bulk load slide film. It's expensive and I don't shoot enough to warrant it. The reason I got the few rolls I have is that they were cheap and expired.

I'll just order some mailers for the next rolls...these may be going through 59 Minute Photo in Fort Dodge to Whoever Does E-6 there.
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No it wasnt the Velvets, but you know Lou shoots a leica?
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I cross processed some expired fuji velveeta film in c41, and had interesting results. I lost a lot of the wonderful colors in the sunset. Posted to my gallery here, but got few views and comments, so I guess people didn't really like them *shrug* I still have a few rolls of kodak e100vs which I'd like to try cross processed, too, wonder what different kinds of colors I'll get.

i.e. if you want to see the colors, then don't x-p -- unless you have sort of an idea how the kodak film will turn out.
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You could shoot with black and white and a red filter. Clouds would be a nice touch.
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I have never lived in a small town. The largest I have managed is a small villiage. For 10 years in Scotland, it was an isolated cottage near the banks of the Spey. Life is wonderful!!

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There are small towns and there are "small towns". I live in Brevard County, FL, which is an amalgamation of pissant towns trying to become important. Where I
live, Merritt Island, is unincorporated, for which I am grateful. A new restaurant was
just completed in what had been the main parking lot of Merritt Square Mall--A TGI
Fridays. New? Fridays? We're talkin' the f***king '80s here.
It gets better. North of the town of Cape Canaveral, near the port, there was a land
fill for several years, which smelled like a mixture of sour milk and rotting fish. On
that very site now are "Luxury Condominiums". I wonder if the developers will
remember to mention the land fill in their sales brochures.
Stephanie, we launch Department of Defense spy satellites, communication satellites,
and of course the Space Shuttle, when we can keep them intact. But I have to drive
30 miles to get E6 done.
All things considered, which is really crazier--your 70 or my 30?

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You could process your own e6. Here is the kit

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search

The chems last 2 weeks, they aren't too too nasty. The only catch is you need a good thermometer and a big sink. The chems, tank, and film, must be 38+/- 1 degrees celcius during the whole processing. It is a little chaotic the first few times, but one you get the motions down, it is just as easy as black and white. The only problem you will have with being in a small town is chemical disposal.
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plus, it sucks because there's nothing to take pictures of.
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Quote:
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No it wasnt the Velvets, but you know Lou shoots a leica?

I know he has a picture holding a scre mount pentax - and in one of teh articles i read about warhol and the velvet underground someone says "and then I took lou's pentax"

I also know that George Harrison was often seen with a pentax (sv?) in the heydays of tyeh beatles(his camera is used by ringo in a long days night)
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Po-DunK Tallahassee Florida...the states capital...I have no clue how that happend. We have 1 pro lab here who do a pretty good job. A little expensive but at least the negs/slides are clean.
7.00 bucks a roll for slides.
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you know...I live in a major city and i'm sure that most of the labs here send slide film away to the next province for processing. I'm not sure why though...

Mailers are your friend. Treat the delay as a winnograndian break from your chromes so that you might approach them with some detachment Of course, I tend to forget what I've taken photos of at times.
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Po-DunK Tallahassee Florida...the states capital...I have no clue how that happend. We have 1 pro lab here who do a pretty good job. A little expensive but at least the negs/slides are clean.
7.00 bucks a roll for slides.
"Po-dunk" Los Angeles CA... the nation's film capital. We have lots of pro-labs but the best one in my area takes 7 - 10 working days for anything 'film'. "Everyone (except for you) has gone digital", they say. A lot slow, but at least the quality is good.

Moral of the story: patience is a virtue. Now... why is the RFF so darned slow sometimes
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Michael I: The song is called "Smalltown" and it's off an album he did with John Cale called Songs for Drella. It was a tribute to Andy Warhol.

I grew up in a small (very, very, VERY small) town and that song pretty much sums up my feels toward it. The last verse especially so:

When you’re growing up in a small town
You know you’ll grow down in a small town
There is only one good use for a small town:

You hate it and you’ll know you have to leave


Stephanie: Do yourself a favor: MOVE!!! Go to Des Moines or someplace. You'll be happier in the long run.
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Generally speaking, it seems that if you're young big cities are where you want to be. Exciting, the best career opportunities, museums, galleries, the Theatre, universities, etc.

However, when you hit fifty, you wake up one morning, stare woefully out the window into a smog-laden drizzle, prepare to face a one-hour snail-paced commute, and think, I gotta get outa here and smell some roses.

At that stage in life, the small town seems suddenly attractive.
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Generally speaking, it seems that if you're young big cities are where you want to be. Exciting, the best career opportunities, museums, galleries, the Theatre, universities, etc.

However, when you hit fifty, you wake up one morning, stare woefully out the window into a smog-laden drizzle, prepare to face a one-hour snail-paced commute, and think, I gotta get outa here and smell some roses.

At that stage in life, the small town seems suddenly attractive.
I just turned 50... and you're quite right! Unfortuately I'm married to a younger woman - by the time she has the same realization I'll probably be so old I won't want to move. Sometimes being stuck in a big city is no better than being stuck in a small town!
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Yeah, you don't need a DSLR. Even a good quality digital P&S. Just to keep up the whole retro appeal, maybe get something out of production like an Konica-Minolta
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It's funny how we always want what we don't have available. I have e6 same day in a building right next door to my local pub (and yes that is nice). I also spend as much as 10 hours a week in my car and I don't use my car for work ( and I put less than 100 miles on it a week). I'd love to live in a small town but can't seem to find work there. Evey time I visit my family in Florida I swear I'm not going back. GAS attacks make me work though ...... Tis life I guess...
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In the good old days I could walk across the 4 lane road from my office and get pro lab 2 hour E6 processing. Then they moved, then I moved offices. Then they quit doing E6. So I started doing more digital. Now I have to drive 20 miles round trip to get 3 day service...
Mailers are cheap, but so slow you will forget what in the heck was on those rolls so its kinda like christmas when you get them back not knowing what they are.
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I like instant gratification and I also like anticipation. What's a guy to do? Think of mailers as chrome foreplay.
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I'll be moving next year...I'm not going to attempt it until then. I'm going to try my damnedest to get into the photography program at Hawkeye Tech...which means I'll be living in Waterloo...Water Falls...Cedar Loo...er...well, that place over there. Not in the dorms, though. I'm hoping to find myself a job and a place in the year and a half or so I have before I'd start school. I'm only not starting this year because I'm pretty sure I couldn't get in yet and I really don't want to uproot myself *that* fast.
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I like instant gratification and I also like anticipation. What's a guy to do? Think of mailers as chrome foreplay.
As much as I enjoy foreplay, I don't have the stamina to make it for 14 days. If Fuji
just had ONE east coast lab...

And as for small towns, I love them, but nobody will allow them to remain small.
Invariably Mall Wart has to slither in and ruin everything.

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Phoenix is no small town and I'd have to drive 30 miles or so...in cross town traffic...during banker's hours...to get to a lab that does E6. Hell, it's the same story for black and white. Yes, I know I should just do that myself.
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Generally speaking, it seems that if you're young big cities are where you want to be. Exciting, the best career opportunities, museums, galleries, the Theatre, universities, etc.

However, when you hit fifty, you wake up one morning, stare woefully out the window into a smog-laden drizzle, prepare to face a one-hour snail-paced commute, and think, I gotta get outa here and smell some roses.

At that stage in life, the small town seems suddenly attractive.
I am well past 50 and retired and spend most of the summer and fall in a small town, the rest of the time in New york City. Frankly, after smelling the roses for three months I get hay fever. I love the big city although getting away now and then is nice. My wife loves gardening but the only thing that attracts me are the photo opportunities and the lack of NYC heat waves.
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