Old 06-29-2015   #481
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Really realy beautiful, tones and everything

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Here's one more printed on Monday. I did this in 2 prints using the ilford em10.

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Old 06-30-2015   #482
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Hello fellow wetprinters ;-)
Dear Ray, I am also printing pictures in my micro darkroom and I am interested in this various grade printing techniques.
My enlarger has a condenser and I can only change the contrast gelatines...
I have a kaiser microcomputer with a meter accessory but I have not used it so far...
May you suggest me any resources studying in order to understand what is happening.
I really like the idea of local contrast variation on the same print...
Thank you for sharing your pictures and your findings!
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Old 06-30-2015   #483
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Here's one more printed on Monday. I did this in 2 prints using the ilford em10.

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Old 06-30-2015   #484
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Michael, adresaba and Johnmcd, thanks for kind words. Still learning and having fun at the same time.

varchs, the best article i have read on split grade printing is here:

http://www.lesmcleanphotography.com/...ull&article=21

but i have read all the stuff and watched all the youtube video but nothing comes near to explaining split grade from the Lynda paid videos:

http://www.lynda.com/Photography-Bla.../372526-2.html

after watching the topic on "split filter test print" i felt confident enought to go do it.

it is not free but worth the small investment to learn it.


in my opinion, the advances in BW darkroom printing in the last few decades are:
* splilt grade print
* f-stop printing
* enlarger metering

while these topics are not required to make a good print, it is nevertheless something interesting to learn and tinker, especially now that the equipment are quite affordable.


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very interesting resources.
Thank you Ray!
I will work on them asap... it seems that I can do it to by changing the contrast filters.

During printing the RFF Postcards I have struggled to get an OK print...
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Michael, adresaba and Johnmcd, thanks for kind words. Still learning and having fun at the same time.

varchs, the best article i have read on split grade printing is here:

http://www.lesmcleanphotography.com/...ull&article=21

but i have read all the stuff and watched all the youtube video but nothing comes near to explaining split grade from the Lynda paid videos:

http://www.lynda.com/Photography-Bla.../372526-2.html

after watching the topic on "split filter test print" i felt confident enought to go do it.

it is not free but worth the small investment to learn it.


in my opinion, the advances in BW darkroom printing in the last few decades are:
* splilt grade print
* f-stop printing
* enlarger metering

while these topics are not required to make a good print, it is nevertheless something interesting to learn and tinker, especially now that the equipment are quite affordable.


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Thanks for this!
I read a lot on split grade printing too but haven't seen an easy explanation quite like your first link shows.
I mostly print on graded paper (unfortunately) since I have a big stock of it so I can't use split grade often but I will definitely experiment.

The F-stop printing I already knew but not consciously, I used an app on my iPhone which gave me the times below and above my "guessed" time which I should use. The app is called - not surprisingly - f-Stop. Slowly connecting the dots here...

Cheers Ray for this!
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Thank you Ray,
I have studied your sources and I am looking forward trying this technique during the weekend.
The Lynda videos are really worthy!!!
I will keep you posted! ;-)
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It's been a long time - how do I insert an image if I don't have a Flickr account Canned it a long time ago.

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It's been a long time - how do I insert an image if I don't have a Flickr account Canned it a long time ago. Thanks. Steve.
If you want a decent size like we show above, you need your image hosted somewhere - anywhere. Dropbox, One Drive, FlickR, personal server (like me), etc. then you take the link of the image and use the forum function to plug it into your post.
If all else fails you can upload a tiny thumbnail pic by having it uploaded to the post I think but I try not to use it. Size limitation etc...
We butcher our prints enough while scanning etc, at least show it in decent size

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Thomas, that is sublime!!! Bravo!
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I just realized that I've never shared this in this thread:

The big difference is that this print comes from a *color* negative. Without split-grading technique, I don't think I'd be able to produce this print.

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Thanks Will.
I like your print a lot, especially the sharpness and the tones. Is it 35mm or larger format?
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I like your print a lot, especially the sharpness and the tones. Is it 35mm or larger format?
That is a 35mm negative shot using Olympus Zuiko 85mm f2
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Darkroom Print #1 of 2. Early Sunday morning.
Using the Ilford Darkroom Meter, I managed to get this out in one attempt.
Grade 0 at f5.6 enlarger lens aperture at 8 Seconds. Ditto for Grade 5.

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Darkroom Print #2 of 2. Early Sunday morning. Habana.

Using Ilford em10 meter, it gave a reading of f5.6 for grade 0 and f4 for grade 5. First attempt, the shadow details were there but the highlight detail (on the wall was missing), 2nd attempt was better at f4 for grade 0 but this 3rd attempt is acceptable as a working print. Grade 5 remained unchanged.

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grade 0: f2.8 enlarger aperture, 8s
grade 5: f4 enlarger aperture, 8s
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Ray - nice work. I like the contrast on your shots with the models.

Here's one from me, I have been playing with Film Development as I have this stock of Forte Grade 2 paper and wanted to get contrasty images out of them.
I have been getting good results with Rodinal and based on Ned's suggestion, i now tried going with a more "violent" agitation scheme.
I developed the roll in R09 1:50 for 11 minutes at 20C and agitated 5 inversions every 30 seconds as opposed to the 3 inversions per minute which is what I was used to with Rodinal.

The end result turned out really very contrasty and I am on the verge of calling this a little overkill.

Ned if you are reading this, what do you think?

Below is a shot of my son and our Neighbour's daughter at our place over the weekend.

Film: Kodak Eastman DoubleX 5222 @400
Paper: Forte Bromofort BSP-4 Special 5x7
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dodging the girl's face for 3 seconds and the boys face in the shadow areas on the right hand side for 2 seconds.

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Cheers - John
Just curious John, have you thought about cutting the extra paper before you expose your prints and save those for test strips?

I am thinking about starting to print more 6x6 shots in the coming months and I think I am going to cut the end off and make the paper square even before I expose.

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Ben, very nice textures to the pix. the contrasts and grain adds to the atmosphere. very well done.
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Ben, very nice textures to the pix. the contrasts and grain adds to the atmosphere. very well done.
Thank you Ray. I do like the print as well but am not sure I should continue destroying my negs just so I can use my existing paper stock.

I'll check more of my negatives later side by side on a light table and try to figure out what's best to do. Rodinal with heavy agitation blows the highlights if I keep it for the same time (11min). Perhaps if I agitate heavily, I need to reduce the dev time.

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I'm taking a darkroom workshop, so still learning. Here's my latest attempt. Apologies for the bad iPhone capture.

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I'm taking a darkroom workshop, so still learning. Here's my latest attempt. Apologies for the bad iPhone capture.
Nice going - any details you can share about Film / Paper and Enlarging details?

Good luck with your workshops!
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Nice going - any details you can share about Film / Paper and Enlarging details?

Good luck with your workshops!
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Sure... That's Ilford FB classic glossy paper, 8x10, printed on a Beseler 45MXT enlarger with a 2 1/2 contrast filter and some burning on the left edge and bottom left corner. If I remember correctly (don't have my notes with me at the moment), it was about a 16-sec. exposure at f/22. I cropped out the edges of the negative, which is 6x7.

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Sure... That's Ilford FB classic glossy paper, 8x10, printed on a Beseler 45MXT enlarger with a 2 1/2 contrast filter and some burning on the left edge and bottom left corner. If I remember correctly (don't have my notes with me at the moment), it was about a 16-sec. exposure at f/22. I cropped out the edges of the negative, which is 6x7.

Thanks for the encouragement!

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I get similar exposure times at home, most others get much longer and I wonder why. I normally enlarge 135 to 5x7 paper and I get on averate 8seconds on f16 with Fibre. If I use RC, half of that maybe so I stop down to f22.

I envy people who get away with f11 or f8 and 10+ seconds. Something must be wrong with my enlarger or maybe my negatives are too thin...

Nice one and a great setup anyways. Would love that enlarger myself!
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Still a bit too light in the highlight areas.

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"Salmon Fish Head $1.99"

Just a quick followup on the "Perfection" series of paper which i got for 95usd + 24usd shipping to singapore, this is 8x10 glossy 250 sheets.

Did a print on Ilford VC IV and on this Perfection Paper. Initial observation, works well, paper was about one stop more sensitive on "Perfection" than on Ilford VC IV. Of course, this is from initial printing of only two sheets, your mileage may vary,

Shot yesterday on the Yashica T4 with Kentmere 400 film.
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I remember using the Leica Minilix, setting the range to 1.5m, and aperture stop at f2.4 on the Summilux, with the film at iso 800 (DX encoded).
Did several enlargements of this negative before I was satisfied with this print.
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I love how you have photographed these. Also well done getting the fine black line around the edge so neat. I find it really tricky to get mine even and of uniform thickness.
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Thank you FujiLove, I┤m getting closer and closer to better wetprints for each print I make, and I┤m pleased with the results too. I like the thin black frame around the print, both because it makes a fine border and to show that the pictures ain┤t cropped. Using an easel makes it easier to get even and thin lines.
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I have never tried color-darkroom printing but i gather it┤s quite intricate and your prints look just fabulous. Could you tell me how you get this kind of transparent black border on the edges of your prints? I also print my negatives in the darkroom but only black and white and i can only get a solid black border but yours looks so much better, kind of rough on the edges and as i said a bit transparent i just love it. I┤d love to achieve a similar look!
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Could you tell me how you get this kind of transparent black border on the edges of your prints? I also print my negatives in the darkroom but only black and white and i can only get a solid black border but yours looks so much better, kind of rough on the edges and as i said a bit transparent i just love it. I┤d love to achieve a similar look!
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I think what you are seeing as transparent might be the top two edges where the black border sort of turns and gives away to move of the image?
If so, it's due to the Medium Format film, the emulsion isn't 100% accurately applied on the film base and therefore you'll get what you see printed. Normally people cover off this area using the easel - however, I tend to also keep a border and saw this on my TMAX100 shots I shot on Medium Format.

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I think what you are seeing as transparent might be the top two edges where the black border sort of turns and gives away to move of the image?
If so, it's due to the Medium Format film, the emulsion isn't 100% accurately applied on the film base and therefore you'll get what you see printed. Normally people cover off this area using the easel - however, I tend to also keep a border and saw this on my TMAX100 shots I shot on Medium Format.

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Thanks for your reply and yes, thats what i mean, where the boarder is sort of inconsistent. But i┤ve seen this on many 35mm shots as well so i think it┤s not only down to the format. I always thought it was down to how you file your negative carrier but i don┤t know.
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