Agfa APX 100: Foma 100 or 200
Old 09-12-2017   #1
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Agfa APX 100: Foma 100 or 200

I have a good supply of deep frozen [120] APX 100 but eventually all good things will end.
I have never used F200 in 120 so wonder how or if it would relate to the character of APX 100 in Rodinal. I have read many people shoot F200 at about 100 iso which would suit me fine.
I appreciate the films are different but are they similar enough to share some visual characteristics?
If the F100 is a genuine 100 ISO would that be a better choice or do you have some suggestions.



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Old 09-12-2017   #2
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I've only used APX 100 a few times many years ago. I loved it, but I'm lazy so as it was hard to find in the US, I never really used it much. I've used Foma 100 (at 50) and it is not, in my opinion, similar, in the characteristics I want, to APX 100.
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Old 09-13-2017   #3
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I've been told many times that this stuff is very similar to AGFAPAN APX-100, though I've never tried it. And not sure if it's available in 120.

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Agfa-Gevaert APX100 developed in Rodinal was long one of my my favorite combinations.

I too would like to know what current popular-priced medium speed BW 35mm film
looks most like old APX100 when processed using commonly available developers.

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Foma 200 is an interesting film, with a bit more tonality than other films I have used. Years ago they had a problem with dust in the 120 films, I assume they have dealt with that.

I have seen it in 35mm, 120, and a number of sheet sizes.

For 35mm, I got best results with Xtol.

For 6x9 APX, I used Rodinal for the tonality.

The film has been sold under a variety of names-- but if it is Foma, and 200, should be the same film.

Roger Hicks listed it as one of the top films of the last century, well, that's when he wrote that book.

I did test the Foma myself, and found perhaps one more tone in the test rolls.

Yeah, I froze a brick of APX MF, but I also bought a reasonable amount of Foma (which was labeled for the Brit market) in 35 --

The original Foma USA was stuck with a lot of MF film with pinholes from dust-- 20 years ago or so.

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When I was shooting weddings, I used AGFA Color and B&W 120/220 flms. For B&W work it was Agfa 100 APX and Agfa 400 APX.

Really lovely films that make beautiful silvery-looking prints. Still have some in the deep freeze.

In blind taste tests my Brides preferred Agfa Color neg film for their events.
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Probably different than the "old" APX:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/searc...&N=4093113317&


I do have some of the old stuff. But I find TMX 100 is pretty darn good.

Only 35mm avail APX 100.
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Probably different than the "old" APX:
Most definitely different, according to reviews.

Has anyone here tried the "new" AgfaPhoto APX100 and APX400 films?

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Most definitely different, according to reviews.

Has anyone here tried the "new" AgfaPhoto APX100 and APX400 films?

Chris
I don't shoot much B&W, and I'm very far from any kind of expert on the subject, but from the little that I have shot of the old APX 100, I feel like Ilford FP4 Plus is currently the closest thing available...
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Has anyone here tried the "new" AgfaPhoto APX100 and APX400 films?
The "new" Agfa APX 100 and APX 400 films are in fact Kentmere 100 and Kentmere 400 films, sold either as Agfa or as Rollei (RPX 100 and RPX 400) or as Kentmere products.

I wouldn't say that the "new" APX 100 (or its Kentmere 100 and RPX 100 clones) is close to the old APX 100.

Ditto for the Ilford FP4+.

The Ilford PAN 100 (which is a different film, rumoured to be the old FP4 before the introduction of the "Plus" - but I wouldn't vouch for this according to what I get with it) may have a closer rendition if you are after something looking like the old APX 100. But, not quite yet.

The Fomapan 100, as excellent as it is, has an oversensitivity to the blue, hence a different rendition indeed. To skip that oversensitivity to the blue, using a x2 yellow filter and exposing it to 40-50 ASA while developing it in Rodinal with times matching 80-100 ASA works well (1+50, 11-12 minutes at 20C). It works as well with D76 1+1 (12-13 minutes at 20C).
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