Leica Super Elmar 24 3.8 ASPH
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Leica Super Elmar 24 3.8 ASPH

I just bought this lens and since I couldn't find a dedicated thread, here goes.

Do add your shots which will also help those considering the ZM Biogon 25/2.8 to decide which lens to buy
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Just a few random snaps from a fall hike last week.


Barred way by areality4all, on Flickr


Autumn field by areality4all, on Flickr


Sunset by areality4all, on Flickr


Fall splendor by areality4all, on Flickr
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The ZM 25 Biogon passed through my hands many years ago. It is an incredible lens, yet I prefer the ergonomics (size particularly) and look of the Elmar Asph, and don't need that extra stop. The Elmar Asph seems to sparkle a bit more, and is unbelievably even across the frame. It also works with less fuss on a digital M. I don't see how you could go wrong with either lens.

MCTuomey has had both lenses at the same time, and in fact his comments on the lens, as well as those by Tom A. and Sean Reid, were important factors in steering me this way. Tom doesn't usually get excited about 24/25s (as much as 21s, anyway), but he was really wowed by this lens when he first tried it out. Perhaps one of them will pipe in here.
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I haven't had the chance to test the ZM 25/2.8 yet but from what i read on the interwebs, it is a stellar performer.

I vaguely seeing a press release of some sort from Zeiss claiming :

"When Hasselblad staff photographer Jens Karlsson took demo photos for the first Zeiss Ikon brochure in 2004, his photo of the carousel, taken with the ZM-Biogon 25 stood out for its enormous detail and clarity. So we used a ZM-Biogon 25 in a recent test to determine maximum resolving power. The high resolution film of choice was the SPUR Orthopan UR supplied and processed by SPUR. The result was a whopping 400 lp/mm on film, recorded with the Biogon 25 at f/4 in the center of the image. This value, 400 lp/mm, corresponds to the maximum resolution theoretically possible at f/4; in other words it represents the calculated “diffraction limited” performance at this aperture. It is noteworthy that this test was conducted with a production lens on a production camera, indicating that the film was precisely positioned and flat."

source: ***********.com

I cant seem to find this anymore but it surely left me wanting to play with the ZM 25/2.8

Anyway, here are some random samples from around my workplace from yesterday












Thursday is a public holiday here so some landscape/architecture shots are coming up soon
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I cant seem to find this anymore but it surely left me wanting to play with the ZM 25/2.8
Well, it seems that perhaps you have mis-titled the thread, then LOL!

The ZM 25 is supposed to the same formula as the SWC Biogon 38 for Hasselblad, which is a star lens in that system. It is undoubtedly a fantastic lens in the M mount line up by any standard, from any manufacturer.
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Oh don't let the internal fight between my left brain and right brain get to you.

A part of me is a big Leica fan and another part of me is a big Zeiss fan.

I'm loving the SE 24/3.8 ... Went for a walk today and captured some beautiful light. Will post the pictures later this evening. I'm happy Leica upped the ante on the lens coating for the new lenses, the zeiss T* coating had me in shock when I first shot with the ZM Sonnar 50/1.5

Though it is designated f3.8, the light transmission seems more efficient than lenses typically let through at f4

The SE 24/3.8 definitely exceeds my expectations
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I actually love to pair the C Sonnar with this Elmar M for a two lens kit!

The Elmar M seems to be a vastly underrated lens, no doubt because of the aperture. I had virtually all of the ZM wides made in Japan at one point or another, as well as several offerings from Leica, and this is the one that really hits the sweet spot for me.
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I agree that this lens is very under-rated. I particularly like it as a second lens in combination with a 50mm. I have used a 28mm Summicron before but I prefer the 24mm in a couple of ways:
The handling - love the lens hood and the size;
Composing - I prefer to use the 24mm external finder compare to the 28mm frame lines in a 0.72 finder (this may be different on a 0.58 finder?);
Flare - I find that the Super Elmar is far less prone to flare. Part of this latter point may relate to the fact that it has a better lens hood, but I think it's more than that. The helicoids in the 24mm SE are blacked out, for instance.
In any event, it is a great lens. I like to pair this lens with the Zeiss 50mm Sonnar which shares the same filter size. While I normally use black and white film, the SE does a particularly great job with colour in my opinion.
I think the lens is best used for objects and lanscape photos, where it can add a bit of drama to a picture without being over the top.
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I shot the 25 ZM for several years and it's a truly excellent lens. I used it with film and couldn't have been happier. When I purchased my M9 I found the corners to be a bit soft particularly wide open. I sold my 25zm and bought the Elmar 24 and am truly amazed. Even wide open it's tack sharp in the corners. It's so good wide open it doesn't get much better even stopped down.

Both are great but I'm partial to the 24 Elmar.
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I have used a 28mm Summicron before but I prefer the 24mm in a couple of ways:
I moved from a 28 'cron to this lens and couldn't be happier. FWIW the two lenses are the same size. The 28 cron I had showed more vignetting than the 24 SE.

Another point to add is that the SE's sharpness across the frame both at near and far distances can be essential for stitching photos of that nature.
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So, what is the difference between the older f2.8 and the newer f3.8?
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