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as some of you might know...today is my last day of work...next week i join the ranks of the unemployed & looking for work group!!

as a parting gift to myself...i'm thinking of buying the sony rx1...

ok...yell at me now!
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Old 02-15-2013   #2
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Take it easy Joe... How much food & rent will the cost of one of those cover?
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You already have 2 good cameras, adding the RX1 will will mean that more of your gear sits without any use. Is it just GAS that's getting to you? If so, you might want to reconsider!
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As one who got laid off almost 4 years ago, be easy on your purchases. I have been doing all sorts of stuff to get by. Luckily my wife has a good job, but with a small son, I have to make sure my priorities are in line. If purchasing new gear gets you to a place that will get you future income, great. If not, and you can live with what you have, stick with it. One never knows what tomorrow may bring.....or not.
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.. while not being renowned for my frugal nature I do feel Mick H has a point
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All your purchases and bag shuffling really only hide a huge empty hole. You should fill that hole with something that heals the soul. You are too old for thos buying and selling business.
Reading a book, drawing, painting are cheap activities that heal the soul. Photography, as a hobby also heals the soul. But it seems that your hobby is not photography.

If I was yoh I'd be seriously asking myself questions. I already did, in my case, and my conclusion was simple: all these cameras and lenses are all pure junk.

A good book goes a long way!
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I was laid off in Spring of 2004. It was not pleasant although I tried to make the best of it, with mostly good success.

If you have enough reserves and expect to find a new position, or retire, well inside your comfort zone, why not get yourself a new camera if you want it?

It was the end of 2008 when the Great Recession did me in financially. I managed to obtain a good position again, finally, at the beginning of 2011. Those were a couple of very dark years, but nothing I'd done in 2004 to 2008 would have changed that. The Great Recession crushed my business and consumed all my reserves.

Such it is, we cope and move on.

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If you can afford it, and really want it, then why not.

I will say this however, you probably don't really want it.
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Perhaps wait until you get the next job and then treat yourself. That said, then you won;t have as much time to use it. You can always sell it fo0r 75% of new if you end up needing the cash badly.
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Sony RX1 or any camera for that matter is not an antidepressant, in fact they add to the tension and anxiety when too much money is involved.
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joe, joe, joe. do what you want, as long as you can afford it. we know you live simply and have no dependents, IIRC. have at it ...
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Sony RX1 or any camera for that matter is not an antidepressant, in fact they add to the tension and anxiety when too much money is involved.
I think this is hitting it on the head. We think that retail therapy works, but it does not.
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I wouldn't do it, but I haven't just qualified for the Canadian PP. If you do it, consider it your Pension Plan Camera. If you don't do it now, I'm sure the darned thing, or one far more shiny and alluring, will be waiting for you later. Thegman is right about the efficacy of retail therapy. It hasn't done well in clinical trials. Nine out of ten dentists surveyed... Anyway, if you buy it, use it and enjoy.
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Anyway, if you buy it, use it and enjoy.
Another question is does he really need to shoot a farmer's market that often and with the latest and greatest?

In my case, I wouldn't even consider taking a camera to a farmer's market. Maybe an iphone fr obe or two shots but that's it.

I think a deeper analysis is due.
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Go have a look:
Handle the camera.
Put it down and go back home.
Leave it for a week.
Then wonder about the purchase.
You might even find that the price has gone down by then!
Will you need to buy a bag for it?
You even might be looking at the specs of a camera even 'better' by then!
And it isn't the camera that finds the pictures to take is it?
And I happen to like the pictures you take with your present gear!

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Another question is does he really need to shoot a farmer's market that often and with the latest and greatest?

In my case, I wouldn't even consider taking a camera to a farmer's market. Maybe an iphone fr obe or two shots but that's it.

I think a deeper analysis is due.
That's not very nice. We all use cameras for different reasons. Just because his subject matter doesn't fit your preconceived notions of what photography is doesn't mean he's not allowed to enjoy using the latest and greatest.
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If it was me (and it's not), the last thing on my mind after being laid off would be spending precious cash on something that duplicates what I already own. The rapid inherent depreciation of digital equipment would make a purchase like that even more painful and cause me to feel exceedingly foolish.
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I have done loads of retail therapy over the past few years as I lost a job and then struggled with some financial issues. If I had to give advice I'd say:

1. If you really want it sell off some other gear to help offset the price and guarantee you'll actually use it.

or...

2. Hold of for a bit and see how your finances are going in a month or so. When the money spigot turns off it's amazing how fast the cash flows out of a bank account.

In any event, we're all different but that's my advice
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+1 on what John wrote.

This is generally a warm, friendly place. Sometimes people have heated arguments here. Even then, nastiness just doesn't fit with the ethos of this site.
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That's not very nice. We all use cameras for different reasons. Just because his subject matter doesn't fit your preconceived notions of what photography is doesn't mean he's not allow to enjoy using the latest and greatest.
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If Joe buys the camera, we all know that in his hands it can go from being a beloved tool to a fungible commodity awaiting resale quickly if it doesn't float his boat. I think he can get most of his money back out if it doesn't work. Now, I, on the other hand, have trouble reselling gear. But Joe is very comfortable changing out kits. So, long as you're not going to go hungry or homeless ....
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You have some heavy stones sticking your neck out on this subject. This room can be tough

Good luck with whatever it is you decide to do. It's clear to me that you enjoy new products and trying out the technological marvels that continue to bombard us. I do too! Like someone around here said once.... It's later than you think. So Enjoy!
Money is like hair. It's either getting longer or shorter. Cut it short and grow it back. It's a cycle nothing more.

BTW... AppleRaw 4.04 which came out yesterday supports the RX1!
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Sorry to hear that.

I wouldn't reward myself for not having a job. I would reward myself when I find a job again. Maybe the new toy is so time consuming that you forget to find a new job If you want something, then buy flight or railway tickets and use the time for visiting some new locations with some short trips?

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I hate digital, but -

DO IT.

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I'm sorry your group imploded and made this genius move for you. Can't help thinking you'll bounce back pretty well. I'm in awe of your six months cushion.

What you're now proposing is counterintuitive, but just the sort of thing I would do. Pulling your horns in too much can be counterproductive. You seem confident. Until your forthcoming new bag thread I will remain not quite relaxed about all this.

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I wouldn't reward myself for not having a job. I would reward myself when I find a job again. ...
I don't consider buying a camera as "rewarding myself" for anything, personally. I buy cameras when I want to, for whatever reason I deem important enough to spend the money, and only when I have the money to spend.

I don't live in the "self rewards as a motivational exercise" mythology universe.

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Another question is does he really need to shoot a farmer's market that often and with the latest and greatest?

In my case, I wouldn't even consider taking a camera to a farmer's market. Maybe an iphone fr obe or two shots but that's it.

I think a deeper analysis is due.
i'm the official market photographer...i shoot what i like and what i know.
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Sorry to hear that.

I wouldn't reward myself for not having a job. I would reward myself when I find a job again. Maybe the new toy is so time consuming that you forget to find a new job If you want something, then buy flight or railway tickets and use the time for visiting some new locations with some short trips?

Good luck.
i am thinking about some travel...mabe even the euromeet!

i have not been adventurous in many many years...
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regardless of the job situation, the cameras you already have are better
probably right about that...
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enough with the bookstore psychoanalysis! you go, joe!
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joe, joe, joe. do what you want, as long as you can afford it. we know you live simply and have no dependents, IIRC. have at it ...
i do live a pretty simple life...and it's just me and the dog...
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i can and will spend more time shooting...it's a bit warmer here now and i plan a trip to new york soon...
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I clicked the "back" button on the bay with 3 seconds to go and in the lead.....
it was a revelation!

My retail therapist was proud of me.
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these threads almost always amaze me...why i am still surprised amazes me as well.

why is it that gear is looked upon by some as such an evil thing!
do painters get criticized for wanting new oils, acrylics or brushes?

i own 2 'good' cameras and a pricey point and shoot...that's it!
so getting another camera is such a sin? all my gear together didn't cost as much as a leica monochrom...or a noctolux...
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Been in the rolls of the unemployed since mid Dec.

I decided that I would relax a little before figuring out what to do next.

Next week I am going to searching for a new job.

Godfrey is right, if u got the budget who cares about what else u have, it what u want. Life us short, enjoy yourself while u can.

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Sorry if my post came across as a slam - certainly not intended as such!

I suppose i was looking at it from my perspective. "Laid off" and $2800 camera created a cognitive dissonance. If you can afford it, why not? Life's too short as it is. My apologies.
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