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Old 02-08-2016   #1
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Fuji ST801

I've got this nice black camera, but it's missing a screw in eye piece. Without it, the view is fuzzy so it must be a diopter. Does anyone know about this? Maybe an easily found diopter from another camera would fit? Thanks!

http://www.thecamerasite.net/01_SLR_...ica-ST-801.htm
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I'm sorry to say I don't know. I hope you find one, and I will keep an eye out for one.
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Old 02-08-2016   #3
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On mine, the screw-in piece is just a flat piece of glass that makes no difference to the viewfinder image. Although presumably you could get diopters if you needed them.
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Old 02-08-2016   #4
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The standard 801 just has an empty ring. Do you need a diopter?

It's the same 19mm screw thread used on many Nikons, same as the Fuji X-Pro1
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Right now there's a 701, next bid is $12 USD on shopgoodwill.com. Not sure it will fit or fix your issue. Let me know if you're interested.
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You guys are awesome, thank you!

(Hold off Bill, but thanks again.)

Is there another explanation for the fuzzy view, if the eyepiece is flat glass?
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So as suggested, an eye piece from a Nikkormat screwed in, but view is still fuzzy. For some reason it looks like I need a diopter for this camera.
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I have a spares 605N or two and maybe a 705 or STX junker in a box. In Australia but if any closer options don't present themselves I'm sure it wouldn't cost much to send something so small across to you if parts from those will fit. The 801 is a pretty decent M42 camera. Open aperture metering and a 1/2000 shutter speed make it stand out from many other types. I don't have one myself but did find a good one for a friend cheaply that went well once I sorted a bent escapement control lever under the lower cover. He loves it. Next time I find a cheap one, I'm keeping it! Most of the Fujicas have really bright finders and great metering. It's worth getting this one fixed, they regularly fetch more than some M42 bodies of equivalent age on eBay.
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Thanks for that info Brett.

On my camera, I was thinking the issue may rest with the lens, a 50f1.4, but the fuzzy view is the same with the 28mm lens that also came with the camera.
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Wasn't the 801 the first SLR with LEDs in the viewfinder?

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Wasn't the 801 the first SLR with LEDs in the viewfinder?

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Hi Bill. Yes it is, according to the link in my first post.

My camera is the early version with the raised lettering for Fujica.
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When I look through the camera viewfinder, I normally look through the top part of my bifocal eyeglasses, for distance viewing. If I look through the bottom, reading portion of my bifocals, the view in this camera becomes clear. So, I simply need a + diopter.

Sources?
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I have no clue or proof, but I'd say try a Nikon/Nikkormat from the same era. My guess is that any from that era should be about the same size. Might need a bit of tweaking as the screw threads might be different, but I bet the size is the same.

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My nikkormats' eye pieces fit, but they are all plane (sic) glass.
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Old 02-09-2016   #15
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Frank,

Diopters for the Bessas, Fuji Texas Leica, and Nikons are all the same size. I used nikon ones on my Epson RD1 until I found that the Bessa ones from the Head Bartender were easier on my glasses. Last I looked, they were still available.

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I am wondering if it is possible that the focus screen is in upside down? Or perhaps the prism has shifted?

I had something similar happen when I replaced the focus screen on my first Pentax DSLR with an eBay 'split-image' screen. I put it in upside down first, then could not focus at all. Flipped it over and all was well.

Just a thought!
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Thanks for that info Giorgio.

Matt, thanks, I'll have to check if the focus screen is user changeable.
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Not according to everything I've read about them. Here is another site for you to peruse, Frank.

http://www.camera.portraits.srv2.com/st801.htm

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Not according to everything I've read about them. Here is another site for you to peruse, Frank.
http://www.camera.portraits.srv2.com/st801.htm
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BTW, the camera looks much better in black.
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What is your eye prescription for the lower part of your bifocals? If it's in the +3 to 4 range I'm pretty sure I've got a couple of Nikon diopters in those strengths lying around, and would be happy to send the right one through to you gratis. I'm travelling at the moment so can't check the stash.

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Cool, thank you! Sending PM.
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I have both ST801 and ST901. The 901 was the first one I purchased, and in fact, my 2nd SLR. Both are superb cameras. I prefer the 901 as it has the shutter speeds in the viewfinder as different actual speeds, although it is really step-less. It also has SBC light cells which were said to be superior (the SBC works very well in very low light, another reason I like it). Neither ever gave me bad exposures unless I did something really stupid. The Fujinon lenses are really great. The multiple layered coating was really good.

To answer your question on the diopters, I can't remember if mine came with a clear plain glass (but it must be plane of course ). I think it did. I am at work so I can't check any of my others, but I think my original had one which I lost. It never affected my ability to see well through the viewfinder, but then I don't wear glasses.

I think you will find it a fun camera to use. You can also use other M42 mount lenses. You will read some places that there is a slight danger of the other lenses not having the same distance to the film plane, or getting stuck on the ST801. I personally never had a problem with any but some of the Mamiya lenses. They had a tab that would get stuck in the camera lens mount part where the lens locks in to provide the correct position for through the lens metering. By being careful, I was able to get it out, and never tried any other of Mamiya lenses. I have used Yashica, Pentax, Vivitar TX for Fujica, Pentax and Unversal mounts and a couple of others. No problems except those Mamiya. I think they were for auto-metering, not stop-down and the tab on the lens was the problem.
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Hi, oftheherd. I've read about the M42 lenses from other brands issue, or was it Fujinon lenses on other cameras? Good to know that pentax screw mounts will work. I have a fujinon 28 and 50, but the pentax option gives me 35 and 135 as well.

Is a difference between the 801 and 901 an electronic shutter on the latter?
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Hi, oftheherd. I've read about the M42 lenses from other brands issue, or was it Fujinon lenses on other cameras? Good to know that pentax screw mounts will work. I have a fujinon 28 and 50, but the pentax option gives me 35 and 135 as well.

Is a difference between the 801 and 901 an electronic shutter on the latter?
That is a difference, yes. The 801 has a mechanical shutter. The 901 has both an electronic step-less shutter, that is, it picks the correct speed, and displays the closest 'normal' speed in the viewfinder. However, if your battery dies, it also has mechanical speeds of 1/60 to 1/1000 and B.

EDIT: I don't mean to put down the 801 as it is a fine camera, but rather to build up the 901. I seldom use either of my 801s because I much prefer the 901; and used it so many years before I ever got an 801, so I am more comfortable with it and its added features.
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The Fujinon lenses have a tab on the aperture ring, used to index the meter on the various Fujicas. This tab can conflict when used on other systems, and when adapted to mirrorless. Many adapters work fine with standard M42 lenses but don't allow clearance for this tab. The conflict results in the aperture ring being unable to turn.
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The Fujinon lenses have a tab on the aperture ring, used to index the meter on the various Fujicas. This tab can conflict when used on other systems, and when adapted to mirrorless. Many adapters work fine with standard M42 lenses but don't allow clearance for this tab. The conflict results in the aperture ring being unable to turn.
Yes, there is a small pin on the back of the Fujinon lenses.

Oftheherd, so the 901 has a hybrid shutter. Cool!
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The Fujinon lenses have a tab on the aperture ring, used to index the meter on the various Fujicas. This tab can conflict when used on other systems, and when adapted to mirrorless. Many adapters work fine with standard M42 lenses but don't allow clearance for this tab. The conflict results in the aperture ring being unable to turn.
My Fujinon lenses mate properly on my Yashica TL Super, Electro X, and my Pentax HV. The tab you mention fits on the outside of the lens mount flange on the camera body. Evidently from you experience, it doesn't on others. Are you speaking of digital or other film cameras as well?
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Yes, there is a small pin on the back of the Fujinon lenses.

Oftheherd, so the 901 has a hybrid shutter. Cool!
Yes, it is cool. I also looked on one of my spare 901s. It does have a plane glass screw-in insert that in my case at least, also holds the rubber eye cup in place.
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@oftheherd, the pin can conflict with adapters when using the lenses on digitals, I have not used any Fujinon M42 lenses on other M42 film bodies. Perhaps the tab doesn't conflict on M42 film cameras.
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@oftheherd, the pin can conflict with adapters when using the lenses on digitals, I have not used any Fujinon M42 lenses on other M42 film bodies. Perhaps the tab doesn't conflict on M42 film cameras.
I thought that might be what you were referring to but it just wasn't clear to me. Perhaps it was to others. Thanks for the clarification for someone who doesn't really do digital.
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