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Looks like what I was hoping for, glad I ordered some. Thanks, Chris, for posting the processing method.
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Old 06-12-2017   #42
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Just as a reference, they have instructions on the site. And the sample images have developer and times as well.

http://www.filmferrania.it/p30/
Thanks! I think I'll try Rodinal first.

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Happy to oblige...
Looks great, Chris!

My credit card got billed 10 days ago. Should be any day now... I hope!
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Looks like what I was hoping for, glad I ordered some. Thanks, Chris, for posting the processing method.
Yes I see a use for this film, I ran some Ilford Delta 100 in the same tank as a reference and they were spot on so the "look" is the "look" not the developing.
On that to avoid confusion my reduced agitation regime is continuous for 1st min then three inversions at 3,6 and 9 mins, 12 min total, I find it controls the grain, or a least I have that belief shall we say and 1:60 is H dilution tweaked so I can measure 25ml for the 5 reel tank of 1500ml ( although I will go to 1:50 (30mls) if 5 filled reels are in as 25mls is on the edge of minimum requirement for 5 films, with no densitometer I don't see a difference
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My order arrivd today! Not shot anything yet. I'm hoping for data on a few more developers . I'd want to use either DDX or Ilfosol 3. Anyone tried either of these.
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My order arrivd today! Not shot anything yet. I'm hoping for data on a few more developers . I'd want to use either DDX or Ilfosol 3. Anyone tried either of these.
How long from when your credit card was charged to the arrival of the film?
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How long from when your credit card was charged to the arrival of the film?
Sorry don't know !
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did you place the order or were you a backer of the color film and switched over?
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did you place the order or were you a backer of the color film and switched over?
I wasn't a backer as I'd not heard of the plans until late last year. I ordered not long after Ferrania got their shop back online.
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Old 06-14-2017   #49
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Those samples look gorgeous. Is this look hard to get with other films? Honestly, I don't have much experience at all with black and white film apart from the occasional roll of Delta 400 or HP5.
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I wasn't a backer as I'd not heard of the plans until late last year. I ordered not long after Ferrania got their shop back online.
Argh... I AM a backer and still no film (they said backers would be first to get the film). I guess there is a bit of confusion at Ferrania about this P30 sale thing.

Which is fine with me since that means they are probably busy with other, more important, things...
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I hope they are busy with the slide film. How long is this now going on? My freezer is slowly getting empty.

I really hope they are serious about the slides. There are already dozens of b&w film available but just fuji for slides (the rollei is so bad I don't even think about that as film). And with 400x at €16.50 for a 120 roll that isn't an alternative either.
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This is a bracket on P30alpha batch 17.001

Nikon F6 set at 80 iso, these are the brackets in 1/3rd stop so: -2.0,-1.3,-0.7 then +0.7,+1.3 and +2 stops
They run all at f5.6 from 500th down to 30th, 125th was "correct" speed and is not in the bracket and I thought was about half a stop under to my eye, I may have fooled the meter with that bit of sky I had no hand held meter with me.
Developer was Pyrocat HD 15mins Semi stand 1:1:100 with pre-soak 70F scan on V850
Lens was Nikkor 50mm f1.2 Ai

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Argh... I AM a backer and still no film (they said backers would be first to get the film). I guess there is a bit of confusion at Ferrania about this P30 sale thing.

Which is fine with me since that means they are probably busy with other, more important, things...
Feeling the same burn. Not happy with this.
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Nice Chris.

The +1.3 looks like the best exposure to me. Did you use matrix metering and was the 50 1.2 lens set in the custom lens menu?
I find the matrix metering in my F6 underexposes whenever there is a little bit of sky in the image.
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Feeling the same burn. Not happy with this.
Got the film today...



(it's batch P30.17.002)
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Nice Chris.

The +1.3 looks like the best exposure to me. Did you use matrix metering and was the 50 1.2 lens set in the custom lens menu?
I find the matrix metering in my F6 underexposes whenever there is a little bit of sky in the image.
Yes matrix, yes entered as a manual lens, will be posting some to flickr in the next few days with the Meta Data (Meta35) seem to have that working.
The centre exposure when scanned needs a 0.5 stop increase to look reasonable and as it's a jpeg I don't like pushing more which it needs, I think a stop but agree its the metering. On the roll a few frames are under some spot on, generally under, the F100 was more consistent. I have another roll loaded in an M2 undergoing sunny sixteen exposure, I'll just nail it down when I've no film left!!
I usually shoot C41 colour in the F6 and obviously that gets away with almost anything, I'd certainly be wary of E6 on matrix on the F6, funny my D3 seems happy on matrix, is centre weight better, I'm loath to go spot all that messing about ?
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On another note - Odd to see KS perforation on a negative motion picture film stock.
(this shouldn't effect anything when used as still film)

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I hope they are busy with the slide film. How long is this now going on? My freezer is slowly getting empty.

At this rate Kodak will beat them to the punch with their new Ektachrome,
or whatever they plan to call their reintroduced E-6 color transparency film.

That might make Ferrania seem like an also-ran and IMO won't help sales...

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Yes matrix, yes entered as a manual lens, will be posting some to flickr in the next few days with the Meta Data (Meta35) seem to have that working.
The centre exposure when scanned needs a 0.5 stop increase to look reasonable and as it's a jpeg I don't like pushing more which it needs, I think a stop but agree its the metering. On the roll a few frames are under some spot on, generally under, the F100 was more consistent. I have another roll loaded in an M2 undergoing sunny sixteen exposure, I'll just nail it down when I've no film left!!
I usually shoot C41 colour in the F6 and obviously that gets away with almost anything, I'd certainly be wary of E6 on matrix on the F6, funny my D3 seems happy on matrix, is centre weight better, I'm loath to go spot all that messing about ?
Funny you mention the F100 because I too have noticed that the matrix metering seems to be better on my F100 than my F6. And this is with using the latest lenses too - 50 1.8G
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Shot (Nikon F2, 50/1.2) and developed first roll (Rodinal 1:50, 8min).

Dreamy...



and/or

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Brbo, nice. I'm still waiting for mine. What temp did you develop it at?

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I hope they are busy with the slide film. How long is this now going on? My freezer is slowly getting empty.
I don't think they are at the color slide film stage yet. They are still struggling to fill the P30 "pre-orders". I wish them luck, but it is slow going.
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I'm an original backer and ordered bw film when it was first announced. Still waiting for my film...
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Brbo, nice. I'm still waiting for mine. What temp did you develop it at?
Standard 20deg C.
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So just for those backers who havent received anything I contacted ferrania and they said they had no record of me in their database.

Might be worth checking in because it seems like they have just taken the money and ran with it.
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Shot (Nikon F2, 50/1.2) and developed first roll (Rodinal 1:50, 8min).

Dreamy...



and/or

sharp...

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so I guess they are still shipping out what they call "switchers" as well as shipping out pre orders. They are putting them both in a first come first serve basis. So there is no priority for backers who switched. Even though I'm pretty sure they said that backers would have a first chance to switch over before they opened up the pre orders...

Anyways If anyone still hasnt received their order it might be worth contacting about but otherwise seems like patience will pay off.
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Dave Bias (on APUG) said that order numbers are not a good way to determine when film will be shipped. Your CC will be charged first, then it ships (you’ll get an email and a tracking number). My five rolls of P-30 are in transit right now (three hours away) and I should get them tomorrow.

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I'm waiting for my film and I'm happy they continue going forward every day.
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My first shot using Ferrania P-30. Leica MP w/Canon 50/0.95, probably at F1.6. D-76. I like this stuff. Very rich tones.



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My first shot using Ferrania P-30. Leica MP w/Canon 50/0.95, probably at F1.6. D-76. I like this stuff. Very rich tones.



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Scan looks very dirty. Is that film flaw...or just dust? Aside from that, the silver rich film looks awesome. Incredible tones and contrast.
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It is obviously dust. Why or how would that be a film flaw?!
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Scan looks very dirty. Is that film flaw...or just dust? Aside from that, the silver rich film looks awesome. Incredible tones and contrast.
Yes, it is dust, and some remnants of dried photo flow. My fault for being a bit careless when drying the film.

The tones are rich. Comments on APUG suggest that the true ISO may be closer to 40 than 80. I’m thinking that may be true, but won’t know until I scan more on the first roll I shot (at ISO 80). Considering that this is an “alpha” film, it’s impressive. I look forward to shooting roll #2.

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I'm really happy with P30 as well. Very "rich" tones without feeling too contrasty. This film is going to be great for flat light and grey days. Supposedly in part that it is less sensitive to red wavelengths than other modern panchromatic films.

Here's one shot at ISO 80, developed in D-76 full strength, with a Nikon F (FTn) and 35/2 AI lens:

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I'm really happy with P30 as well. Very "rich" tones without feeling too contrasty. This film is going to be great for flat light and grey days. Supposedly in part that it is less sensitive to red wavelengths than other modern panchromatic films.

Here's one shot at ISO 80, developed in D-76 full strength, with a Nikon F (FTn) and 35/2 AI lens:

That looks really nice! So many textures.
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