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Old 07-25-2019   #41
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Looks good..!
Would like to see it compared to the real Leica 8 element at all apertures for comparison..
I did some quick testing of an 8 element back in the day..
Very nice lens..I actually liked it better than my "King of Bokeh" ver 4..

Should have bought it for $400-..before the prices went..whacko...
Yes, a comparison would be interesting. Pricing has obviously gone up a lot over the years, but then so has inflation. I bought my 35 Summicron v.1 new from a retail shop in downtown Seattle on 3 July 1967 for what I assume was then-current list price: $163.50. I still have and use it, also the nice used M2 body I got at the same time for $150...
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Here are some more sample shots on color film

Lens: Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype

Film: Fujifilm RDP III


[test samples] Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr

[test samples] Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr

[test samples] Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr

[test samples] Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr

[test samples] Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr

[test samples] Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr

[test samples] Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr

[test samples] Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr

[test samples] Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr

[test samples] Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr

[test samples] Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr

[test samples] Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr

[test samples] Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr
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Here is an update for the painting of the lens:

He Said it could be black paint (my favorite one), without any painting which is just brass itself like the prototype that been showed above, silver chrome in the future, maybe olive green if you like. Or even gold plated he mentioned. Lots of possibilities. If the project is a success, many more choices will come, I suppose.

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Yes I think a Black Paint with red engravings would have a very positive response.
This has stimulated many ideas of other lenses to remake/create.
This is already quite an interesting story please keep us updated and thank you for sharing what you are able.
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Yes I think a Black Paint with red engravings would have a very positive response.
This has stimulated many ideas of other lenses to remake/create.
This is already quite an interesting story please keep us updated and thank you for sharing what you are able.

Talking about remake other lenses, he is working on a bigger project at the same time. I cannot tell you what that lens is right now. But I am sure you guys will love it.

You are welcome. I am very excited about this amazing project. So I want to be a part of it and working with him. I just can't wait to get this replica and see how good it is.
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Mechanically the original Leitz lens is excellent. I have two of them, a goggled one and a normal one. It has the same quality as the Summaron-M 35mm f/2.8, maybe even better.

My only complaint is its propensity for flare.

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I thought that the Summaron 35/2.8 is better, as many folks have praised of it? ONly down side that it cant go to f/2 of course.
I have one, 35/2.8 late serial 22xxxx btw.
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I'll take a brass one. Thank you.

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Black for me. In M mount.
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I thought that the Summaron 35/2.8 is better, as many folks have praised of it? ONly down side that it cant go to f/2 of course.
I have one, 35/2.8 late serial 22xxxx btw.
Personally I prefer the Summaron 35mm f/3.5. More even performance over the whole image. The Summaron f/2.8 has weak corners.
The Summicron 35mm f/2 (8 elements) is very good, but flares easily in the sun.
My favorite 35mm Leica lens is the Summilux 35mm f/1.4 steel rim, second version, numbers 206XXXX.

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Here is an update for the Lens Mount:

The first version will be M-mount. He will produce the LTM version after that.
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Talking about remake other lenses, he is working on a bigger project at the same time. I cannot tell you what that lens is right now. But I am sure you guys will love it.

You are welcome. I am very excited about this amazing project. So I want to be a part of it and working with him. I just can't wait to get this replica and see how good it is.
Maybe it is Summilux pre-asph 50/1.4?
Or, the Nocti!
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Personally I prefer the Summaron 35mm f/3.5. More even performance over the whole image. The Summaron f/2.8 has weak corners.
The Summicron 35mm f/2 is very good, but flares easily in the sun.
My favorite 35mm Leica lens is the Summilux 35mm f/1.4 steel rim, second version, numbers 206XXXX.

(All very personal opinions).

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My most used 35mm lenses for the Leica:
1. 35/1.4 Lux pre-asph (not the fancy one that Erik discusses)
2. 35/2 Summicron 8-element model
3. Biogon 35/2 ZM


For ltm, I use Canon 35/2, 35/1.8, 35/1.5.


There are many excellent options available to us.
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I see some vintage character in the images, maybe the boke, but the contrast from modern coatings. Similar the the C-Sonnar and the Elmar-M, in this way. I like it.
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Maybe it is Summilux pre-asph 50/1.4?
Yes, the 1st version would be nice.
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Love this project!! I want one LTM in black paint!!
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Or, the Nocti!
Good guess. But I will keep it secret for now. Stay tuned.

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When can we expect it to be available for purchase?
Here's a cynic's view...

First beat the drum through a third party/?investor like Kevin-Xu (with only 28 posts here and probably a few dozen on other sites), then in a year, $99.99 + shipping, hand-made by indentured workers in some far-flung Chinese backwater, possibly infringing on some patent or copyright, made of glass of unclear provenance and no QC?
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When can we expect it to be available for purchase?
He told me approximately in three months it will be available for the public. Thank you very much for your interest.

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$99.99 and no QC?
Sir, I am very sure that he is serious about this project. He is a Leica enthusiast. He will make sure the quality of his lens at least on par with the original Leica Summicron.

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First beat the drum through a third party/?investor like Kevin-Xu (with only 28 posts here and probably a few dozen on other sites), then in a year, $99.99 + shipping, hand-made by indentured workers in some far-flung Chinese backwater, possibly infringing on some patent or copyright, made of glass of unclear provenance and no QC?
Cynic all you want, but I'm pretty sure 28 refers to Kevin's (presumed) age. If you want to use number of posts as evidence of credibility, Kevin has 429 posts and counting, compared to your 141.
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Let’s not shoot the messenger! Especially when he has such cool news to share!

3 months is just in time for the Holidays. Can’t wait to hear when a LTM Mount will be available.

As pointed out. Kevin is 28 and he has more like 450 posts! And has been around here enough he need not explain himself.

Don’t like it? you can take it up with me! A nice guy
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Letís not shoot the messenger! Especially when he has such cool news to share!

3 months is just in time for the Holidays. Canít wait to hear when a LTM Mount will be available.

As pointed out. Kevin is 28 and he has more like 450 posts! And has been around here enough he need not explain himself.

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Thank you dourbalistar and B-9. Appreciated. I think at this point there is no need to spread the negative on this project. It's good to see something like this exist. Isn't it fun? I have nothing to do with his project. And it's not about money. I really wish this project could succeed, and people who interest in this could finally get a real copy in hand to try it out.

What I can do is to try to get one of the pre-production lens to confirm the authenticity. Besides that, I am just a messenger.

By the way, I am a real person. Just check out my Instagram or Flickr if you want.
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Here's a cynic's view...

First beat the drum through a third party/?investor like Kevin-Xu (with only 28 posts here and probably a few dozen on other sites), then in a year, $99.99 + shipping, hand-made by indentured workers in some far-flung Chinese backwater, possibly infringing on some patent or copyright, made of glass of unclear provenance and no QC?
You must love the 7Artisan lenses then.



Super cheap, made in China and excellent.

I am looking forward to this new 35mm lens.
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Hey Kevin perhaps you should post a poll so you can see what finish most people want?
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You must love the 7Artisan lenses then.



Super cheap, made in China and excellent.
I'm big on disposables!
Who needs a stinkin' CLA when there's decentering, oil on the blades, sticky aperture or focus ring?

Toss it into the trash and get a new one.



Would be interested in knowing if Kevin has a financial interest in the venture, perhaps as a potential importer. Pays to be honest up front.
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Thank you Huss. This is an excellent idea. That's what I was planning to do. But it's just a bit early to do so at this point. I will create a poll one month before the production. To see exactly what people want and how many people want to sign in the waiting list.

And of course, I will try to get a real copy before all these. To make sure this is real.
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I'm big on disposables!
Who needs a stinkin' CLA when there's decentering, oil on the blades, sticky aperture or focus ring?

Toss it into the trash and get a new one.



Would be interested in knowing if he has a financial interest in the venture, perhaps as a potential importer. Pays to be honest up front.
I have three 7A lenses and they are nothing like what u say. Surprise surprise.

Youíve just jumped into this thread and are trying to cause trouble for whatever weird reason. Who cares if Kevin is associated with the project? Either way itís very cool and no-one is making anyone do or buy anything.

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Who needs a stinkin' CLA when there's decentering, oil on the blades, sticky aperture or focus ring?

Toss it into the trash and get a new one.



Would be interested in knowing if Kevin has a financial interest in the venture, perhaps as a potential importer. Pays to be honest up front.
As Huss said, I didn't mention anything about selling. But many forum members here want to know the price and when could buy it. As a messenger, I will try my best to answer their questions. Just to be clear, the maker of this lens simply wanted me to post the test photos to see how you guys like it and looking for some advice. That's it.

Basically, I am just a Leica enthusiast, a shooter, also a collector. Just check out my Instagram or Flickr sir.
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I have three 7A lenses and they are nothing like what u say. Surprise surprise.

You’ve just jumped into this thread and are trying to cause trouble for whatever weird reason. Who cares if Kevin is associated with the project? Either way it’s very cool and no-one is making anyone do or buy anything.

Be a positive influence.
Enjoy them, the images from them that I've seen look impressive for the price. Only the tincture of time will tell which one of us was right.

Why is it important? While it may very well be "all that", I raise the point because the blog is for discussions and not promoting items without first revealing one's fiduciary interests. The latter would be dishonest.

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Here is an update for the Lens Mount:

The first version will be M-mount. He will produce the LTM version after that.
Better start saving nickels and dimes then, I sure want one in brass or black paint as long as it's LTM!
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Bare brass would be a beaut! Thanks Kevin for being the liaison for this project!
I'm definitely going to pick one up once it becomes available.
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Here's a cynic's view...

First beat the drum through a third party/?investor like Kevin-Xu (with only 28 posts here and probably a few dozen on other sites), then in a year, $99.99 + shipping, hand-made by indentured workers in some far-flung Chinese backwater, possibly infringing on some patent or copyright, made of glass of unclear provenance and no QC?
Wrong. His AGE is 28.
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I’m excited! Test shots look awesome, put me down for M and LTM mounts in brass!
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I'm definitely going to pick one up once it becomes available.
You are welcome! Please stay tuned.
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Thanks Kevin. Another interested viewer here.

I'm surprised there is so much desire for a lens unfinished in brass. It looks pretty odd to me. I'd much rather something protected by paint, preferably black. I'm also assuming in all these years of producing items with brass that Leica coated them for reasons other than vanity?

Any images that show the aperture blades and if they too are a copy of the 10 bladed original?
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Thanks Kevin. Another interested viewer here.

I'm surprised there is so much desire for a lens unfinished in brass. It looks pretty odd to me. I'd much rather something protected by paint, preferably black. I'm also assuming in all these years of producing items with brass that Leica coated them for reasons other than vanity?

Any images that show the aperture blades and if they too are a copy of the 10 bladed original?
Thank you for your interest!

Not gonna lie, I love the lens unfinished in brass too.

Regarding your question, the replica version will have the same amount of aperture blades, which is 10. And it's even better than the original one. The blades in the replica are more curved. Therefore it will look more circular at every stop. The maker paid lots of attention to those details.

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Here is a photo of the prototype lens aperture blades. It has 10 blades.

Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr
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