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Old 11-09-2017   #81
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I've noticed that on a lot of forums. Everyone seems to want to support film until someone comes out with a new film or camera. Then the fangs come out.
The same people complaining about it, wishing it was something else, also wouldn't buy that something else if it was offered new.
They would just say why bother, I can get it used and cheap..

Let's be honest. The gripers are not the target audience. They no longer are relevant as customers for gear. The next generation of film shooters are.


Aaaand... new shooters do not hang out on forums like this. They are on flickr groups or facebook groups.
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they went to instagram after flickr went down the tubes.
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Old 11-09-2017   #83
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Yep. Silbera is another good example. And JCH Pan.
If Hunt didn't bag Fujifilm I might cut him some slack, but he shouldn't dish it out if he can't take it. It's unseemly for someone in the business of selling film to blatantly cast aspersions on a competitor, the phrase "vested interest" comes to mind. As far as I am concerned, the fewer people who buy JCH Pan the better.
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He was pissed off a Fuji well before he started producing film - what it is about his opinions about them that bothers you? They are ceasing production of film, is that not something to be frustrated about?
I must have missed their announcement Hamish. Perhaps you'd be kind enough to pass on a link to it please?
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here's the announcement from fujifilm, and bellamy discusses it on his blog.

personally, i don't think it's a bad sign. they're adjusting to the new market to ensure profitability. everyone is going to have grievances about products coming and going from the market.
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here's the announcement from fujifilm, and bellamy discusses it on his blog.

personally, i don't think it's a bad sign. they're adjusting to the new market to ensure profitability. everyone is going to have grievances about products coming and going from the market.
Oh I have seen that one, thanks, but I was referring to the one Hamish mentioned—you know—the one in which Fuji have stated that they’re “ceasing production of film”. You know, the one that’s a figment of Hunt’s imagination.
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Bellamy seems to be filling a niche that Fuji has abandoned, namely 400 speed B&W film...
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It's a weird time in film... where the usual names kill off products, but new players are trying to enter the fold. I would think any new product that keeps film alive is a good thing.
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I'm not real certain how Bellamy popped up in this discussion. Seems as if some people just cannot let a good grudge go to waste.

When they dropped Neopan 400 I was a little upset myself, not too mention Provia 400X. At least Bellamy put his money where his mouth was and tried to come up with a replacement.

EDIT - Really good film btw. I use a lot of it.
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I wish them well but I believe there are plenty of higher end Japanese film cameras available used for not much.
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I wish them well but I believe there are plenty of higher end Japanese film cameras available used for not much.
But none of those are:

1/ New
2/ Able to adapt to any lens mount with a simple switch of a mount plate
3/ Have detachable film backs with dark slides.
4/ Have a built in flash and LED light.
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But none of those are:

1/ New
2/ Able to adapt to any lens mount with a simple switch of a mount plate
3/ Have detachable film backs with dark slides.
4/ Have a built in flash and LED light.
Perhaps I missed it, but have you ponied up to buy one of these cameras on Kickstarter?
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Hmmm...and another film camera reborn?

https://www.thephoblographer.com/201...kes-35mm-film/
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Perhaps I missed it, but have you ponied up to buy one of these cameras on Kickstarter?

Yep, I pledged.

I have other film cameras, but there is so much I admire about this. In this age of hand wringing and lamenting the death of film cameras, someone is actually bringing out an all new design. And it is nothing like what I have, or what is available.

The last 'new' film camera to be released was the Leica M-A, which is just an MP with the battery removed. Not exactly bringing anything new to the table there. Oh, and it is $4000.

I also am excited about being able to use my Minolta 58 1.2 on a new body.
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Hmmm...and another film camera reborn?

https://www.thephoblographer.com/201...kes-35mm-film/
With fully mechanical shutter, that may be a better option than the Reflex. We'll have to see when the details are released.
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If the early voting is any indication, the interchangeable back is not a big selling point. Only two backers have signed up for an extra one.
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If the early voting is any indication, the interchangeable back is not a big selling point. Only two backers have signed up for an extra one.

Akshully that is not the case. I have ordered one to go with the camera but it does not show as the kickstarter process only lets you make one selection for your pledge. So if you want to order anything else, you need to just increase your pledge amount for that one selection commensurate with the cost of the additional item. And then send Reflex an email saying what else you are paying for.
I know of many that have done that.
Reflex even details it in their FAQ. It is unfortunate that this is the only way to do it.
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With fully mechanical shutter, that may be a better option than the Reflex. We'll have to see when the details are released.
For someone that wants that.


I am looking forward to seeing this too, and the full specs when it is announced.
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Akshully that is not the case. I have ordered one to go with the camera but it does not show as the kickstarter process only lets you make one selection for your pledge. So if you want to order anything else, you need to just increase your pledge amount for that one selection commensurate with the cost of the additional item. And then send Reflex an email saying what else you are paying for.
I know of many that have done that.
Reflex even details it in their FAQ. It is unfortunate that this is the only way to do it.
So two backers bought an interchangeable back and no camera, or pledged for a back but increased their pledge to include a camera, or...
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So two backers bought an interchangeable back and no camera, or pledged for a back but increased their pledge to include a camera, or...

Yeah. Weird. I was surprised that Kickstarter does not let you back multiple items.
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But none of those are:

1/ New
2/ Able to adapt to any lens mount with a simple switch of a mount plate
3/ Have detachable film backs with dark slides.
4/ Have a built in flash and LED light.
The detachable film back is a nice idea.
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Yep, I pledged.

I have other film cameras, but there is so much I admire about this. In this age of hand wringing and lamenting the death of film cameras, someone is actually bringing out an all new design. And it is nothing like what I have, or what is available.

The last 'new' film camera to be released was the Leica M-A, which is just an MP with the battery removed. Not exactly bringing anything new to the table there. Oh, and it is $4000.

I also am excited about being able to use my Minolta 58 1.2 on a new body.
Huss, like you, I was disappointed that no Minolta MC/MD mount was offered with this camera. How do you plan to use your Minolta lens with it in the absence of the appropriate mount?

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Another 35mm reflex on Kickstarter.

https://www.thephoblographer.com/201...kes-35mm-film/
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Huss, like you, I was disappointed that no Minolta MC/MD mount was offered with this camera. How do you plan to use your Minolta lens with it in the absence of the appropriate mount?

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They announced they will make the Minolta mount due to popular demand and because they already blew through their fund raising goal.

"At 150%, not only are we introducing the Reflex App, but due to high demand, joining that target now is the Minolta SR/MD mount."

Sweeeeet!
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They announced they will make the Minolta mount due to popular demand and because they already blew through their fund raising goal.

"At 150%, not only are we introducing the Reflex App, but due to high demand, joining that target now is the Minolta SR/MD mount."

Sweeeeet!
Good news, Huss. That's how it should be!

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The same people complaining about it, wishing it was something else, also wouldn't buy that something else if it was offered new.
They would just say why bother, I can get it used and cheap..

Let's be honest. The gripers are not the target audience. They no longer are relevant as customers for gear. The next generation of film shooters are.

Aaaand... new shooters do not hang out on forums like this. They are on flickr groups or facebook groups.
Whoa that was brutal and true


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Campaign is funded and closed! Now let's hope they get to production!
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