What has happened to this Elmar?
Old 09-26-2018   #1
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Unhappy What has happened to this Elmar?

I browsed eBay and found this poor lens...

https://ebay.to/2DFVtQC

What has happened to it? Looks like someone has bit off the top of it.
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Old 09-26-2018   #2
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I browsed eBay and found this poor lens...

https://ebay.to/2DFVtQC

What has happened to it? Looks like someone has bit off the top of it.
*Lens is being sold as is with no returns. It appears to have some fungus/haze.*

-- Apparently they have *VERY* aggressive *fungus/haze* in Hatfield, Pennsylvania!
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Probably fell on a hard surface, or it broke afterwards when someone tried to bend it back.
It could be okay if the locking nubs at the back of the lens tube aren't too bent out of shape.

What's with that spot-welded aperture lever though?

I've got an early Elmar that's missing a few chunks out of the knurled edge of the outer ring. But it's still perfectly usable.
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Maybe the collapsing mount was stuck closed, and someone tried to lever it open with a screwdriver? As Sumarongi says, though, that's SERIOUSLY aggressive fungus! Pretty aggressive with the soldering iron, too.

What would you actually pay for it? I might go as far as about 10% of that price, as a curiosity, but not much more.

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Metal gets brittle over time. I suspect that someone was trying to pry on it for some reason and it broke off. If it was dropped like Mr Fibble mentioned, there could be other hidden problems, like a damaged helicoil. A series hood and filter would cover up the missing part, but if it has fungus between cemented elements the lens is a bad buy.

I'd consider it if it were priced at $50, but not at that price. A Russian Industar 22 would be a better way to go.
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What would you actually pay for it? I might go as far as about 10% of that price, as a curiosity, but not much more.

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Agreed $12 bucks max, then again didn't Picasso use a broken Elmar (lens glass).
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Old 09-26-2018   #8
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That is the rare surveillance Tropical Elmar, used to keep tabs on alligators in the Louisiana Bayou.
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Perhaps a frustrated photographer and thought the lens was the problem and took a bite out of it.

“I’ll show you, lens, how frustrated I Am.”

Did it do any good?
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Actually, to my eyes, the body looks much more like a ZEISS IKON

sry, wrong thread!
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C'mon, folks! That's just a solid "user" lens. Seriously, depending on what the glass inside the thing looked like, I'd be tempted to take it out and shoot the heck out of it, just for giggles. But yeah--not at *that* price.
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i'll trade you a candy bar for that lens.
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i'll trade you a candy bar for that lens.
Not, I assume, an expensive Swiss or "artisanal" candy bar.

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Metal gets brittle over time. I suspect that someone was trying to pry on it for some reason and it broke off. If it was dropped like Mr Fibble mentioned, there could be other hidden problems, like a damaged helicoil. A series hood and filter would cover up the missing part, but if it has fungus between cemented elements the lens is a bad buy.

I'd consider it if it were priced at $50, but not at that price. A Russian Industar 22 would be a better way to go.
Yes, I own an industar 22. It's a very good lens.
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Hmmm, imagine it was a very badly worn brassy once black M; now does it look much better?

I mean, like, it's just got extra patina and character...

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Hmmm, imagine it was a very badly worn brassy once black M; now does it look much better?

I mean, like, it's just got extra patina and character...

Regards, David
It looks like the lens survived a T-Rex bite in Jurassic Park.
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It looks like the lens survived a T-Rex bite in Jurassic Park.


I think it is the work of Heston Blumenthal the British chef who loves to trick his guests by making edible tableware................an edible camera. Love it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eavFIxrH-E

My guess though is that the lens was adapted to fit on a special bit of equipment. Perhaps for use as an enlarging lens (though what enlarger needs this kind of mod for its lenses - i.e. the moth eaten bit of the lens front - I have no idea). However the little joystick thing attaching to the Elmar's aperture ring does in my mind somewhat bear this theory out as the Elmar's aperture would be devilishly difficult to adjust when so mounted vertically in an enlarger.
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Looks like it might work, but you'd catch it on the inside of your coat, shirt sleeve or develop an ulcer on your forearm from carrying the camera over your shoulder. A lens cap won't stay on so well either. Good conversation starter though. Love the welded aperture selection lever.
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