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Old 02-29-2016   #81
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That the one with the last post in 2013 and more chat than pics

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Old 05-17-2016   #83
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My new (to me) F6 has the serial number 0006684
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0034843 (new stock on shelf at Yodobashi Camera, Shinjuku, March 2015)
0035141 (for ¥271,800, new stock on shelf at Fujiya Camera, Nakano, Tokyo, February 2017)



Used ones can be found for as little as this:
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0035141 (for ¥271,800, new stock on shelf at Fujiya Camera, Nakano, Tokyo, February 2017)
Interesting as mine was new, no idea how long on the shelf of course, in Feb. last year at 34612 so just over 500 in-between.
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In Germany it varies (dependant on the distributor) between 1,700€ and 1,900€ for the body, and about 400€ for the MB-40 vertical grip (the D4 is in the 5,700-6,000€ range).

For such a "once in a lifetime" camera, which can be used for 40-50 years (or even more), that is next to nothing, only some Euros p.a..

One of the reasons I will again go for a brand new one.
Then my first F6 (also bought new) will be loaded with colour reversal film on my projects, and the second, new one will be used parallel loaded with BW reversal, BW negative or colour negative film.
Perfect solution.

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I indeed realized my plans back in autumn 2015.
I had bought another (my second) brand new F6 with MB-40 vertical grip.
Serial number of that second one is 003502x.
Photography life is so fine with two excellent F6 .

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Finally updating this!

0035306

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Got mine - again, and this time will never sell it.

0034835

It feels weird that you have a film Nikon that's actually younger than a, for example, D4...
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This is mine, 0031535
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First time poster in this forum and registered to contribute to this interesting discussion.

I took delivery of a new F6 from Amazon Germany this week, serial is 352xx. It seems that we are slowly - if ever - approaching 36.000 units.

The MB-40 grip also seems to be out of stock here in Germany, without any further deliveries expected. Even the Nikon store lists the grip as no longer available.

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First time poster in this forum and registered to contribute to this interesting discussion.

I took delivery of a new F6 from Amazon Germany this week, serial is 352xx. It seems that we are slowly - if ever - approaching 36.000 units.

The MB-40 grip also seems to be out of stock here in Germany, without any further deliveries expected. Even the Nikon store lists the grip as no longer available.

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Dennis, welcome here, and congratulations to your new F6!!
You will not regret the purchase.

I can highly recommend to add the MB-40 vertical/battery grip to the F6.
Perfect ergonomics and perfect power supply with the grip.
Ask Foto Brenner for delivery.
If Brenner cannot deliver, ask Calumet or Foto Mundus.
If that does not work:
B&H Photo in New York has the MB-40 in stock. They ship worldwide.
There is no discontinuation notice on the Nikon global internet page for the MB-40.

Enjoy your F6!

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battery grip turns the F6 into a monster that's even bigger than an F5! I really cant see the point. The F5 was big enough and carrying it around all day was hard work. Even my 700 with battery pack is a chore. Nice for the bigger zooms but how many times would you use it? Haven't used my F6 for nearly 2 years. Been shooting an M9P and finally get digital.
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Thanks Jan for the kind words and the hints regarding the MB-40!

Currently B&H is on my shopping list for the Meta35 data reader anyways, so I will most likely order a used grip there. I always used battery grips starting with the D200, so this is a must have for me.

It somehow feels strange to spend that much of money for an analogue camera in 2017, but it is for sure worth it. It combines the modern Nikon system (e.g. CLS) with the film world. And it will be an important piece of history of 35mm film.
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Old 04-08-2017   #94
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By the way, did anyone try using rechargeable battery 3.7V CR123A for the Nikon F6? Does it work properly with the camera? And how is the life of the battery?

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Bought a "Brand New" f6 off eBay a few weeks ago from a USA seller 100% feedback. When it arrived, it was definitely not new, missing all the original items and looked liked it had been sugar-cookied in lint. The serial #0013439 dated it around 10yrs old and before the firmware update. The seller even tried to hit me up for more money after they had shipped. After a painful exchange peppered with verbal assaults from the seller, eBay intervened and my money was returned. The seller offered to pay return shipping as part of the settlement, but of course, has not.

I bought another F6 off eBay from a Japanese seller, serial#0032537 and it's great. This EX+ F6 is 200% newer than the "brand new" f6, had free shipping and only took about 5 days to arrive.

On that note, I usually try to buy off of forums for equipment, however sometimes eBay is the only option. The last 3 items I purchased off eBay from US (100%) sellers all had issues and were very different than described. Not minor issues, but major things like broken missing parts, complete fabrications and pictures that are different than reality. To me, it seems like the "honor system" for US sellers on eBay has diminished considerably or maybe I just happen to find the bad ones, consistently in a row. On the flip side, Japanese sellers are quite the opposite. Equipment is graded conservatively, priced competitively, arrives faster and is better than expected. Communication has always been prompt as well.
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List now updated. Thanks everyone. It paints a pretty clear picture I'd say. My guess is that there are no serial numbers below 0001001. I wonder if we'll reach 0040000...
There was a huge gap between 0002xxx and 0007xxx, so I did more number collecting.
There is still no 0004xxx
1000 cameras we are missing...


I have been holding on for over a dozen years, the 65000 yenner F6 is getting mighty close to The $500 budget I have.

Here is an interesting number:

0011000

And here is a late Mint- example from KEH on ebay:

0035093

Today, I had some spare time on hand.


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Old 04-09-2017   #97
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More relevant data here:
So far we had not seen a F6 with a serial number below 0001000.
Where are the first 1000 produced F6?
They are there: It seems Nikon really started with number 0000001.
Because last weekend on a photographer meeting I talked to a F6 user who has bought his F6 just when it was introduced in late 2004: His F6 has a serial number of 0000918.
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OK.
I added everything.


0000455
0000918
0001488
0001563
0001603
0001738
0001775
0001946
0002069
0002145
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0002454
0002737
0002742
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0002897
0003416
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0005283
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0006333
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0006684
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0022507
0022592 (USA model sold on RFF April 2017 )
0023439
0024085
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0026108
0026354
0026923
0029536
002984x (purchased in 2008)
0030478
0031210
0031318
00314xx (purchased in 2009)
0031447
0031535
0031678
0031901
0032537
0033829 (purchased in January 2015 as a refurb)
0033884 (ebay unused May 2017)
0033923 (purchased used January 2017)
0033976 (used camera listed at Map Camera on April 15th, 2015)
0034000
0034395
0034612
00347xx (purchased in late 2014)
0034748
0034835
0034843 (new stock on shelf at Yodobashi Camera, Shinjuku, March 2015)
003502x
0035093
0035141 (for ¥271,800, new stock on shelf at Fujiya Camera, Nakano, Tokyo, February 2017)
00352xx (Amazon Germany March 2017)
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battery grip turns the F6 into a monster that's even bigger than an F5! I really cant see the point.
The MB-40 definitely does not turn the F6 into a "monster".
It is just the opposite: The MB-40 improves the ergonomics and capabilities of the F6 very well:
- perfect handling for vertical shots
- perfect ergonomics with optimal buttons for verticel shots
- improved handling and ergonomics even with horizontal shots
- perfect power supply options with the MB-40 (that alone makes it worth every penny)
- improved speed of 8 fps
- perfect flexibility: I can use the MB-40, but I don't must use it in the cases I don't need it.

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Haven't used my F6 for nearly 2 years. Been shooting an M9P and finally get digital.
Not using the F6 for about 2 years? That's a crime .
This outstanding camera is made to be used, not made for being an unused shelf queen.
If you don't use it, sell it.
There are enough photographers out there who appreciate this unique camera and want one to take lots of photographs with it!
Give it to them.
Or start using your F6 again .

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Thanks Jan for the kind words and the hints regarding the MB-40!
You are welcome.

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Currently B&H is on my shopping list for the Meta35 data reader anyways, so I will most likely order a used grip there. I always used battery grips starting with the D200, so this is a must have for me.
I definitely recommend to add the MB-40 to the F6. You will not regret it to have that additional option.
The Meta 35 is nice. I own one, too.

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It somehow feels strange to spend that much of money for an analogue camera in 2017, but it is for sure worth it. It combines the modern Nikon system (e.g. CLS) with the film world. And it will be an important piece of history of 35mm film.
That is not strange at all, because:
1. Film is starting a revival.
2. The F6 is the best designed 35mm SLR ever.
3. The F6 is worth every penny bought brand new.
4. With a brand new F6 you have a "once in a lifetime" camera. If you take at least a bit care of it, it will serve you very well for the next 30, 35, 40 or maybe even more years.
A camera with such a lifespan for such a relative low price delivers an outstanding price-performance ratio. It is indeed a very cheap camera considering the outstanding value you get.

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Just received my F6 serial 0007634 with grip and E screen. All unused and boxed.

Just picking lenses now. So far have gone for a 35 Zeiss and 50 Zeiss.

Exciting.
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Just a note that the Meta 35 is very useful for the F100 as well as it allows setting of all the custom settings from the computer instead of having to work out the codes and functions.
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Just a note that the Meta 35 is very useful for the F100 as well as it allows setting of all the custom settings from the computer instead of having to work out the codes and functions.
Yes, I am using it with my F6 as well.
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0021054, purchased years ago, used, but like in new condition. Use it regularly, always love it!

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By the way, did anyone try using rechargeable battery 3.7V CR123A for the Nikon F6? Does it work properly with the camera? And how is the life of the battery?

Thanks.
I have not personally used the rechargeable but several posters elsewhere have reported very reduced life, down to six rolls, with them. Very brand variable it seems and depends on the lenses used. If you shoot big heavy zooms then the autofocus demands are very draining, same with standard CR123A, adding VR lenses also adds to the power drain, so reports of long life may be from manual focus users. Reading about CR123A generally not F6 specific there are many reports of poor quality and low life with voltage differences it seems to be one type not easily matched to the originals for some reason.
The MB-40 grip with the EN battery lasts seemingly forever, and gives 8fps if that is of interest, some like the bulk and stabilising weight others abhor it.

You should check your serial, before around #18754 ISTR requires updating if not done a firmware update fixed a battery use issue and minor data writing bugs.
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There is also this "sudden death" fault happened to some F6s - allegedly to be related to the CR123 batteries, and supposed to have improved with the new firmware after #18754, yet there are still reports about cameras having the same problem after a Nikon service. It's the Achilles's heel of this otherwise close to perfect machine.

So, try to be nice to it. Feed genuine batteries from reputable manufacturers only.
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I have not personally used the rechargeable but several posters elsewhere have reported very reduced life, down to six rolls, with them. Very brand variable it seems and depends on the lenses used. If you shoot big heavy zooms then the autofocus demands are very draining, same with standard CR123A, adding VR lenses also adds to the power drain, so reports of long life may be from manual focus users. Reading about CR123A generally not F6 specific there are many reports of poor quality and low life with voltage differences it seems to be one type not easily matched to the originals for some reason.
The MB-40 grip with the EN battery lasts seemingly forever, and gives 8fps if that is of interest, some like the bulk and stabilising weight others abhor it.

You should check your serial, before around #18754 ISTR requires updating if not done a firmware update fixed a battery use issue and minor data writing bugs.
Thanks for your advice. May I know how to do a firmware upgrade on my F6? My serial number is 0031535.
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Well, you all are pushing me over the edge. Worst mistake I made selling my F6. Another one however has popped up at negotiable price. Help me out here, before I plummet: the internal battery is dead, apparently as a function of the owner letting the camera sit around w/o a battery. So, two questions: 1) is a working internal battery required for date/time output via Meta35? 2) Cost involved? any of you all might have info on that, I'll appreciate your advice.

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Thanks for your advice. May I know how to do a firmware upgrade on my F6? My serial number is 0031535.
The firmware is only upgradable by a Nikon service centre, at that serial you will have the latest version,
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Well, you all are pushing me over the edge. Worst mistake I made selling my F6. Another one however has popped up at negotiable price. Help me out here, before I plummet: the internal battery is dead, apparently as a function of the owner letting the camera sit around w/o a battery. So, two questions: 1) is a working internal battery required for date/time output via Meta35? 2) Cost involved? any of you all might have info on that, I'll appreciate your advice.

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Backup battery
The F6 is equipped with a built-in backup battery for the camera’s clock. This charges in approximately 48 hours when 3 V lithium or the optional Multi Power Battery Pack MB-40 (x 166) is supplying power to the F6. When the built-in battery is fully charged, it is able to supply the F6’s built-in clock with power for approx. 4 months.

Depending on the age of the camera a re-charge may be sufficient, if not it's a service centre job.
A good negotiating point if the seller is not familiar with this.
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The MB-40 definitely does not turn the F6 into a "monster".
It is just the opposite: The MB-40 improves the ergonomics and capabilities of the F6 very well:
- perfect handling for vertical shots
- perfect ergonomics with optimal buttons for verticel shots
- improved handling and ergonomics even with horizontal shots
- perfect power supply options with the MB-40 (that alone makes it worth every penny)
- improved speed of 8 fps
- perfect flexibility: I can use the MB-40, but I don't must use it in the cases I don't need it.



Not using the F6 for about 2 years? That's a crime .
This outstanding camera is made to be used, not made for being an unused shelf queen.
If you don't use it, sell it.
There are enough photographers out there who appreciate this unique camera and want one to take lots of photographs with it!
Give it to them.
Or start using your F6 again .

Cheers, Jan
Jan,
monster in size, I'll stand by that statement!
The ergonomics are just fine as is and the pack makes it more cumbersome and more obtrusive.
8fps! honestly how many times is anyone going to use plus 2 or 3 apart from showing their mates how fast it can run.
I have never run out of power with standard batteries however I will say that I did use battery packs on the 700's for wedding photos as they would run all day on 2 lithium standard batteries.
The 24-70 and 70-200 work well with the bigger cameras but using a 28, a 50 or the 85 just doesn't require any more camera to hang on to.
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Hi John,

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Jan,
monster in size, I'll stand by that statement!
The ergonomics are just fine as is and the pack makes it more cumbersome and more obtrusive.
And from my long experience for years with the F6 and the MB-40 I have to strongly disagree.
The F6 with MB-40 is not more "monster-size-like" than a F5, F4 with vertical grip, F3 with motor or a D810 with grip or a D5.
And for vertical shots the ergonomics are just perfect, and a lot better than shooting vertical shots without the grip.

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8fps! honestly how many times is anyone going to use plus 2 or 3 apart from showing their mates how fast it can run.
I need it quite regularly for wildlife, car races and air-shows.

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I have never run out of power with standard batteries however I will say that I did use battery packs on the 700's for wedding photos as they would run all day on 2 lithium standard batteries.
I am using the outstanding Panasonic Eneloops AA cells in the MB-40 (and all of my other modern cameras and flashes). Depending on the lens and shooting situations, I get 35-40 36exp. rolls from one charge.
So I am always safe with power.
And with the Eneloops having a life cycle of about 1000 charging runs my power costs are about zero.

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Mine is s/n 0033923, purchased used in January 2017.
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Mine just now purchased is said to be in the 22's. I'll post an exact # when I get it BTW, the one I got, I bought from the classifieds here, not the one about which I had posted earlier.

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It was a good price, very close to my magic number.
So Frank, does this mean you have 2 of them?

I'll update the numbers when you post yours.

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Hi,

I've seen a F6 on ebay today with the lowest serial number we've seen so far:
0000455

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Kiu, no I have only one. Just purchased from Doug Reilly, the kind of Seller that you hope for in doing an online transaction. The F6 I got from him is simply beautiful. Its serial # is 0022592 and it is a USA model. I am one very, very happy camper
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It somehow feels strange to spend that much of money for an analogue camera in 2017, but it is for sure worth it.
From what I've been told, and I cannot prove this, but the Nikon F6 cameras are each hand assembled by a small group of technicians in Japan. Now compare that to another high end film camera still in production, the Leica M cameras (MP, MA, M7) which are now made more by automation than the hand assembled M3 & M2 of old, and they cost almost twice as much as the Nikon F6. So, looking at it that way, the Nikon F6 is quite a bargain.
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From what I've been told, and I cannot prove this, but the Nikon F6 cameras are each hand assembled by a small group of technicians in Japan.
That is right. There have been reports about that in the French photo print magazine "Chasseur d'Image".
They have visited the Nikon factory in Sendai, where the F6 is produced.

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Now compare that to another high end film camera still in production, the Leica M cameras (MP, MA, M7) which are now made more by automation than the hand assembled M3 & M2 of old, and they cost almost twice as much as the Nikon F6. So, looking at it that way, the Nikon F6 is quite a bargain.
A new F6 is indeed one of the best bargains on the market. Because you get a "once in a lifetime" camera: If you handle it normally, and take at least a little bit care of it, you will have a camera which will serve you very well for the next 35 years (probably even more).
So 1,800€ (or 2,200€ with MB-40) for 35-40 years: Per year it is next to nothing!!

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That is right. There have been reports about that in the French photo print magazine "Chasseur d'Image".
They have visited the Nikon factory in Sendai, where the F6 is produced.
CNET Asia visited Sendai Nikon too in February 2012 (link to article in the wayback machine here. At the time they reported Nikon was making 50 units per month. However with the serial numbers we know now, working back from the serial number 34,130 from a recently purchased new F6 reported in this post on another forum in September 2012 indicates that Nikon has only made around 1,000 units since August 2012, so 15-16 units per month since then (thought I doubt production has been constant over that time).
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