Old 06-07-2018   #41
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Goodness gracious, just release it, Kodak. A lot of us want to start buying it up by the several thousand foot length and sticking it in our 16mm cameras!

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I like what I am seeing. However, the choice of subject does help. The powder blue building facade and the red of the Campbell soup can have a distinctive 50s-60s vibe which, I guess, is what Kodak will try to market upon. Well, looking forward to trying the real stuff.

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Latest on Ektachrome. Kodak will be coating a master roll very soon:



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Although they stubbed their toe with lousy scans, the rest is good news for transparency fans. Alas, I am no longer among them.
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Although they stubbed their toe with lousy scans, the rest is good news for transparency fans. Alas, I am no longer among them.
I haven't shot E-6 in years. I found an older roll of 120 Velvia 50 in my fridge that was a few years out of date. I stuck it in my $15.00 Yashica 124G and took some pics of a Revolutionary War reenactment. Wow! I was amazed at the rich colors and depth of the pics. I will be trying this new Ektachrome, and some more Velvia, in the months ahead.

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I guess it is happening after all...

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kodakBringing back a new version of a former film from our portfolio has been keeping us very busy. We’ve been sourcing the 80 unique components used to manufacture EKTACHROME and reformulating and optimizing the recipe for smaller scale runs. We’ve also rebuilt the factory infrastructure, as well as EKTACHROME E-6 processing workflow.

Now we’re ready to share a first look at our latest, and very successful, wide coating trial that occurred at the end of June. Here are Kodak’s Image Scientists examining the test sheets from this coating run. The objective of this trial coating was to replicate the previous smaller coating results at production-scale. This meant coating a 6,000 feet x 4 feet roll of EKTACHROME film that will then be cut down in the finished sizes of Super 8, 16mm @kodak_shootfilm and 35mm x 136 still film.

We will be sharing more of our journey with you as we get closer to the availability date this Fall. So, stay tuned! For the latest progress from the film factory, media coverage and product release information, visit kodak.com/go/ektachrome
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Am I the only one who is on the Kodak email list? Seems lonely...but the latest announcement:

Fall 2018 availability!!!

I am totally ready!��
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Yes, it is getting there... Fall is right around the corner!

For landscape shooting, it is probably a good time to release the new film for sale. But it feels so lonely for those of us waiting for a lifeline!

Three cheers for Kodak and a toast to, hopefully, new Kodak moments ahead!!!
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Yes, fall or at least this year seems quite likely.
Kodak Alaris in Europe said that they also expect Ektachrome being available in the coming months. Good news, I will buy at least a ten pack to test it intensively.

I love Provia 100F and will continue using it. Outstanding film, it is the benchmark.

But if the new Ektachrome is very close to the former E100G, then there will be situations in which Ektachrome will be the right choice for me.

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Cool. My Precisa stash is dwindling by the day. I just hope they 'll price it sanely.
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I have Kodak E100G in 120 from Nov. 2013, still in the freezer. I think that there may be a slight shift in color rendition, based on some other older rolls that weren't frozen.


For stability, nothing beats Provia 100F. I have film which expired in 2006, which I am still shooting in 120. A lot of Provia 400X still in the freezer also. I've continued to shoot up my supply, and the images are just great (technically, not artistically).


Having said that, I look forward to the E100G return. The skin color rendition is very good with the Kodak. Sometimes I get the impression that the Fuji is towards the cool side with skin tones. I was impressed with the skin tones shown on the test film scan by Kodak.
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I'll have to buy a 35mm camera for this, though I really hope they'd come out with it in 120. Seems to me it'd be smart to have more 120 film options.
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Kodak is in very dire straights, having announced the possible sale of their flexigraphic printing business, the one part of the company that is growing. Every other part of Kodak is either stagnant or declining. Kodak has 400 million dollars in debt coming due in less than a year. They have no ability to roll it over, now that the company has shrunk every year since the last bankruptcy. The only solution it seems is to sell off the one part of the company that is growing.


Notice that we no longer hear about the Kodak Coil ICO that was supposed to occur in January, but has been endlessly delayed since then. Another bad sign.



They better get this film out while they still can. These are not good times. Investors have punished EK's stock harshly the past quarter, down over 35%. It has been a relentless spree of liquidation that continues to this day.
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Kodak is in very dire straights, having announced the possible sale of their flexigraphic printing business, the one part of the company that is growing. Every other part of Kodak is either stagnant or declining. Kodak has 400 million dollars in debt coming due in less than a year. They have no ability to roll it over, now that the company has shrunk every year since the last bankruptcy. The only solution it seems is to sell off the one part of the company that is growing.


Notice that we no longer hear about the Kodak Coil ICO that was supposed to occur in January, but has been endlessly delayed since then. Another bad sign.



They better get this film out while they still can. These are not good times. Investors have punished EK's stock harshly the past quarter, down over 35%. It has been a relentless spree of liquidation that continues to this day.
But surely Alaris (based in the UK) is NOT a part of Eastman Kodak? Or am I mistaken?

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Kodak-Alaris which is the company bringing back the Ektachrome film is not the same company as the Eastman-Kodak that Ted is talking about. The financial pressures on Eastman Kodak are irrelevant to Kodak-Alaris.
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Kodak-Alaris which is the company bringing back the Ektachrome film is not the same company as the Eastman-Kodak that Ted is talking about. The financial pressures on Eastman Kodak are irrelevant to Kodak-Alaris.
Which was indeed my point.

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But surely Alaris (based in the UK) is NOT a part of Eastman Kodak? Or am I mistaken?

Cheers,

R.
no, you are not. Eastman Kodak (USA) and Kodak Alaris (UK) are - on paper - different, independent companies.
But in real life they have a very close relationship concerning the photo films:
Eastman Kodak is producing all the films Kodak Alaris is distributing. The production is located in the big "Building 38" in the Kodak Park in Rochester. All current Kodak film products are produced there. Kodak Alaris has no own film production factory.

Concerning Ektachrome: The film is designed and produced by Eastman Kodak in Building 38.
And Eastman Kodak will offer this film as Super 8 and 16mm movie film to its own movie film customers.
And Kodak Alaris will offer it as 35mm photo film to its own photography customers.

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Kodak-Alaris which is the company bringing back the Ektachrome film is not the same company as the Eastman-Kodak that Ted is talking about. The financial pressures on Eastman Kodak are irrelevant to Kodak-Alaris.
Kodak Alaris *sells* all the still film that Eastman Kodak makes. If Eastman goes under, Alaris will have nothing to sell unless they establish a relationship with Fujifilm.

Alaris makes *nothing*. They are a marketing company only.

Edit: Kodak Alaris makes color paper, RA4, but that is not the topic at hand in this thread.
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Edit: Kodak Alaris makes color paper, RA4, but that is not the topic at hand in this thread.
In the meanwhile, it has become a bit more complex:
Kodak Alaris had its own photo paper factory in Harrow, England.
But they have shut it down.
Instead, the Kodak Alaris RA-4 color photo paper is now made by Carestream in Denver, Colorado, for Kodak Alaris. Carestream is the former healthcare department of Eastman Kodak (sold many years ago). They are also producing X-ray film.
So currently Kodak Alaris has no own emulsion making and coating factory anymore.

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https://www.tollcoating.com/

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I haven't shot E-6 in years. I found an older roll of 120 Velvia 50 in my fridge that was a few years out of date. I stuck it in my $15.00 Yashica 124G and took some pics of a Revolutionary War reenactment. Wow! I was amazed at the rich colors and depth of the pics. I will be trying this new Ektachrome, and some more Velvia, in the months ahead.

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I've always been a fan of transparency film over color negative film. Luckily I still have plenty in my freezer (in all formats 35mm, 120, 220, 4x5), but I welcome the new Ektachrome. Can't wait.
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In the meanwhile, it has become a bit more complex:
Kodak Alaris had its own photo paper factory in Harrow, England.
But they have shut it down.
Instead, the Kodak Alaris RA-4 color photo paper is now made by Carestream in Denver, Colorado, for Kodak Alaris. Carestream is the former healthcare department of Eastman Kodak (sold many years ago). They are also producing X-ray film.
So currently Kodak Alaris has no own emulsion making and coating factory anymore.

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https://www.tollcoating.com/
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Any news on the new Kodak Super 8mm camera? That was announced years ago but I can't recall any updates at all in 2018.
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It's really sad. Kodak is one day away from falling below $3/share. The liquidation that has been on going during recent times is relentless. -11% this week alone, -17% for the month, -40% for the quarter, the bleeding just won't stop.
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Lots of good (albeit bad) information here. I realize that my knowledge was only partial and I made the incorrect judgement based on it. I sure hope that this new production is protected in some way. I don't look forward to a world where E6 is gone .
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It's really sad. Kodak is one day away from falling below $3/share. The liquidation that has been on going during recent times is relentless. -11% this week alone, -17% for the month, -40% for the quarter, the bleeding just won't stop.
So what.
Keep calm and shoot film.

I keep staying quite relaxed. The worst what could happen is another insolvency of Eastman Kodak. Then it will most likely split up again. The big chance for the film manufacturing department - which has been profitable in almost all quarters in the past years - to get rid of the non-film segments which are running not so well.
Maybe we then see even a merger of EK film production and Kodak Alaris! The best solution in my opinion.
But, let's stop it here. Doesn't make much sense to speculate.
Carpe diem!
Let's have fun and enjoy shooting reversal film!

I love Provia 100F and Velvia 50. I will keep using them.
And I am looking forward to the new Ektachrome. I will test it as soon as it is available. I liked former E100G for my fashion and portrait photography. If new Ektachrome is on the same level, I will use it for that regularly. I've always preferred E100G to Kodaks CN films: Finer grain, better sharpness, better resolution, and better color rendition.

I will use it together, alongside with the Fujichromes.
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So what.
There is no guarantee at all that anything will be salvageable after a second bankruptcy. Once the courts are involved, anything can happen. While EK may have reported profits from the film division, they were extremely tiny relatively speaking. Who knows what is even sustainable at such a tiny profit margin. All kinds of accounting tricks may have accounted for that profit. Kodak owes in excess of 400 million dollars. Creditors will control the company if they cannot pay that off. Kodak will have no say with what the creditors do.
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I always do. Shot 4 rolls of film this weekend. Three rolls of Acros, one of Ektar.
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So what.
Keep calm and shoot film.

I keep staying quite relaxed. The worst what could happen is another insolvency of Eastman Kodak. Then it will most likely split up again.
Several hundred of my neighbours work at Kodak print technologies (formerly Creo) here in Burnaby BC.
How many of them are relaxed?


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There is no guarantee at all that anything will be salvageable after a second bankruptcy. Once the courts are involved, anything can happen. While EK may have reported profits from the film division, they were extremely tiny relatively speaking. Who knows what is even sustainable at such a tiny profit margin. All kinds of accounting tricks may have accounted for that profit. Kodak owes in excess of 400 million dollars. Creditors will control the company if they cannot pay that off. Kodak will have no say with what the creditors do.
Maybe, maybe not.
You don't know exactly. It's just speculation at this time point.
And that was what I've meant: It's a waste of time and energy to worry without having enough details and facts concerning the current situation at EK.
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Several hundred of my neighbours work at Kodak print technologies (formerly Creo) here in Burnaby BC.
How many of them are relaxed?
You have misunderstood my posting.
As said above, worrying now without having exact details is a waste of time and energy.
And in my comment I've referred to us photographers.
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Maybe, maybe not.
You don't know exactly. It's just speculation at this time point.
And that was what I've meant: It's a waste of time and energy to worry without having enough details and facts concerning the current situation at EK.
Yes, it's speculation, based on events that are ongoing each day for the past quarter.

However, it's not a waste of time. I'm posted while at work, taking breaks from various tasks being completed throughout the day.
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When I wanted to do a slide show about Missouri's streams and springs, I tested Kodachrome, Fujichrome, and Ektachrome. The best film for preserving the true colors of the blue springs and the green plant life in the springs, was Ektachrome EPP100. I'd like to have it back!
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Test rolls of Super 8 Ektachrome have been shipped to a select handful of filmmakers for testing, according to this blog from Spain:
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More shots from the beta testers are being posted every day

Studio test (latitude).

Those seem to come from the same roll, no push/pull processing. I guess that there is possibility for good results even at iso400 (with push2).
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I guess that there is possibility for good results even at iso400 (with push2).
That would indeed be nice.
So far some of the sample pictures look quite good. Especially the portraits. But we don't know if / what post-processing was used.
Fair judgement of films based on scans (of others) and compunter monitors views is impossible.
We have to wait, try ourselves and see the slides in real life on the lighttable and in projection to really see what the new Ektachrome can deliver.

Concerning flexibility and pull-/push-processing Fujichrome Provia 100F has set the benchmark so far. A very very high benchmark: With Provia 100F you get excellent results pulled about one stop at ISO 50/18 and 64/19.
And you can get outstanding results pushed one stop at ISO 200/24. Pushed one stop Provia 100F even surpasses the former ISO 200 films like Sensia 200, E200 / Elitechrome 200. Provia 100F gives finer grain, higher resolution and better sharpness than the 200 speed films.
And at push 2 on ISO 400/27 Provia 100F still deliver good results.
As soon as Ektachrome is available, I will test both in comparison.
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I used to push Provia 400X one stop to ISO800 with great results. That was an awesome film.
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I am looking forward to the new Ektachrome. Will definitely buy and test lots of rolls.
I hope it is close to the E100G emulsion. I liked that.
I have always used much more Provia 100F than E100G (because it is more neutral, has better sharpness and has greater flexibility).
But E100G has been my choice in certain situations. Well, horses for courses.
I hope I can add some rolls in the future to the dozens of rolls of Provia 100F and Velvia 50 I am shooting each year (nothing can replace Provia and Velvia, but an additional flavour can be nice ).

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Concerning flexibility and pull-/push-processing Fujichrome Provia 100F has set the benchmark so far. A very very high benchmark: With Provia 100F you get excellent results pulled about one stop at ISO 50/18 and 64/19.
And you can get outstanding results pushed one stop at ISO 200/24. Pushed one stop Provia 100F even surpasses the former ISO 200 films like Sensia 200, E200 / Elitechrome 200. Provia 100F gives finer grain, higher resolution and better sharpness than the 200 speed films.
And at push 2 on ISO 400/27 Provia 100F still deliver good results.
As soon as Ektachrome is available, I will test both in comparison.
+1.
I can completely agree from the results of my tests and my experience of shooting Provia 100F since its introduction in 1999.
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Is there any release date for this film yet? It's been in "testing" all summer long. Just how much testing do they need?
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Is there any release date for this film yet? It's been in "testing" all summer long. Just how much testing do they need?
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From their website, "we expect to have Ektachrome for sale in the summer/fall timeline." Fall officially ends December 21st.

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