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Old 06-24-2015   #41
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I agree with the notion that the term "hipster" is frequently used as a put-down. But I admire younger folk who actively seek to find value in the artifacts of older culture. It certainly beats the false pretension of my generation's youth, when everyone had to have long hair and bellbottom denim in order to be "counterculture."

Myself, I have a long beard and like film cameras and manual typewriters. But what keeps me from being a "hipster" is that I can't fit into those skinny jeans!

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Old 06-24-2015   #42
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Here is one ex-professional photog in Milton. He worked as photographer, not PJ for central media in Moscow during USSR. He left two decades or so ago and came to Canada. Strated his own photography. Two studios, freelancers working for him. Five hundred weddings, boobs&buttoms sessions and so on. All taken with film.

He left it all one day. And now using Canon SL1 cheap DSLR just for fun and family.

Every time he see me with ANY film camera he calls me the hipster.

And according to some comments above, I'm. Love film and vinyl hard way. Takes time and effort. I serviced not only film cameras, but turntables
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Thanks for bringing this up. I need to read this. I greatly enjoyed What makes Sammy Run.
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Was HCB a hipster of his time?
Ha, I was going to pose the very same question.

In the traditional sense, yes I believe so, although he probably wouldn't have thanked you for calling him one.
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A hipster is one who, in the guise of setting a trend, follows it.

At least that's the way it looks today.

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Beatniks, Mods, Rockers, Hippis, when you're an angry young man, there's no better way to prove you're an individual than to dress and act exactly like everybody else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3h--K5928M has a lot of that, circa 1964.
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Hipster, just in my definition, is a young hippie of the 21st century with a thick bank account and way, way too overpriced accessories that he does not use to 10% of their potential.
Be it camera, laptop, or even clothes
And indeed half of them are easily recognized by the weird beard. The other half are girls.

Hipsters are very, very boring in a discussion.
Your story was fun to read so you are definitely not a hipster.

PS i don't hate hipsters. I just could not care less.
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What one sees in the Who clip are Mods (or Modernists as they preferred to be called then) who have not yet been catered for by boutiques etc. There is a certain sartorial individuality which is born out of making do with what was available.
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Hepcat comes from hepatitis, an affliction spread among heroin addicts by sharing needles.
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"aware, up-to-date," first recorded 1908 in "Saturday Evening Post," but said to be underworld slang, of unknown origin. Variously said to have been the name of "a fabulous detective who operated in Cincinnati" [Louis E. Jackson and C.R. Hellyer, "A Vocabulary of Criminal Slang," 1914] or a saloonkeeper in Chicago who "never quite understood what was going on ... (but) thought he did" ["American Speech," XVI, 154/1]. Taken up by jazz musicians by 1915; hepcat "addict of swing music" is from 1938. With the rise of hip (adj.) by the 1950s, the use of hep ironically became a clue that the speaker was unaware and not up-to-date.
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I'm shocked this is a photography forum, and nobody has posted an image of a perceived "Hipster".


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That is most definitely NOT a hipster, as used in say Williamsburg or Bushwick NYC.
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Dang, guess I should start signing myself as clueless in Ne. Hipster central.

I've heard of Portlandia but never watched it.
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There is a few versions of hipsters.
People who use film cameras instead of digital.
People with beards or hippy clothes.
Basically liking things that aren't mainstream so to speak, indie music or something really unknown to people. That's a hipster.
Male & female of course
Isn't that just the definition of a teenager?
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Hipsters are young people, aren't they?

At 44, I can't belong to that group anymore even if I wanted to
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I'm shocked this is a photography forum, and nobody has posted an image of a perceived "Hipster".


Haha, here's my bike pic (many years ago):



Your guy is more of a hippy...
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Old 06-24-2015   #57
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I was in Asheville, NC a month ago. At the counter in an art gallery, the young, hipster girl saw my old camera and said, "oh, that's a cute camera!" with a somewhat dismissive grin. I said, "excuse me...?" She backpedaled, and tried another: "So, are you enjoying being a tourist here?". I replied, "actually, I was born in NC and my family lived right down the road since the 1700s....you?" "er...I'm from Vermont, my family just moved here..." So I guess actually being a photographer, with no hip beard, and over 50 means I'm out.....

NC has become very different from when I was raised there. Then, there were Freaks, Preps, Rednecks, and Jocks. Asheville looks to be all Hipsters, for anyone under 40 from what I saw. Same as every generation, you have a "uniform" you must wear, and your politics and hobbies all have to "conform." If you are truly unique, you are misunderstood and shunned. I remember in the 1980s the one or two goth girls were totally ignored or made fun of. Think of Allie Sheedy in The Breakfast Club. Now, you BETTER dress that way, or Hip, or you are ignored or made fun of.
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They're annoying people who've driven up the price of Leica's they only wear as jewelry, have fouled up men's clothing sizes to where, I who wear a size XL, have tried on XXXL shirts that wouldn't fit, wear Howard Wolowtiz (Big Bang Theory) looking pants and are generally highly over impressed with themselves.
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Old 06-24-2015   #59
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Beatniks, Mods, Rockers, Hippis, when you're an angry young man, there's no better way to prove you're an individual than to dress and act exactly like everybody else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3h--K5928M has a lot of that, circa 1964.
A a dead-head friend had been bugging me for years to go to a Grateful Dead concert so I finally did. Back during that time period I wore a jacket and tie everywhere I went. It was just what I wore because I enjoyed it. Man I got so much **** at the concert by the dead heads for wearing a jacket and tie.
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I'm 25. I went to art school. All of us were called 'hipsters' for having cameras at all by the locals (Rochester, NY...the home of Kodak!). I was once accused by a peer at art school of wearing a camera as jewelry because I had it with me 100% of the time. It seems 'hipsters' are somewhat socially cannibalistic. Even 'hipsters' enjoy calling out other 'hipsters' for anything they deem appropriate (inappropriate?).

That being said, I have anxiety and taking a camera with me everywhere helps calm that. I hope that doesn't make me a hipster.

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A hipster is a rich hippie who only cares about his own image instead of that of the world, and smokes just as much weed.

I believe it is classed into the bourgeoisie in France.
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Not mine, no idea where it came from originally, and hopelessly out of date (especially in a phenomenon as fast-moving as hipsterism), but amusing nonetheless.


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I was in Asheville, NC a month ago.
I miss climbing in Brevard in the late 1970s. Almost moved there. Drowned rats, sitting out the rain at The Pink Poodle. Sweet little town.

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. . . I believe it is classed into the bourgeoisie in France.
Is this not the Bobos (Bourgeois-bohème)? This is a contraction that it is more popular in France than in its native USA, perhaps because we have quite a lot of them. Perhaps French Bobos have a higher regard for intellectuals than the English-speaking world.

I was surprised to discover that Bobo was an American invention: see https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourgeois-boh%C3%A8me -- "En France, le terme est plutôt utilisé de manière péjorative pour désigner des personnes aisées se proclamant de gauche mais dont les actes sont contradictoires avec les valeurs qu'ils défendent" -- and (in English) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobos_in_Paradise

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A hipster is someone who takes photos holding the camera near their hip.
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Now I'm confused...

I went to Venice, Venezia the one in Italy to visit the Art Biennale. I took a few pictures with my SX70...does it makes me an hipster ?

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PS: and I had the Leica x1 as well ...
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People cal me hipster all the time. Ok, I use old câmeras and typewriters from 30's and I suspect anyone who doesn't use a Fedora. But I understand hipster something different, closer to hippie.
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A hipster is someone who uses a film camera (e.g., Holga) to take pictures of their bearded friends and/or the sushi they are about to eat.

Not to be confused with a RFF member who uses a film camera (e.g., M2 or R4A) to take pictures of door knobs and cats, before inquiring about the proper Rodinal formula for stand developing the same.

Cf. DPReview member of the Sony NEX forum who asks how many X's their camera has.
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I'm shocked this is a photography forum, and nobody has posted an image of a perceived "Hipster".


We calls these creatures "Bike Crusties" here in the Mit, they tend to move south when the fall comes. Kind of like Trailer Gypsies I guess.
You'll see the Capital area parks swarming with them on hot days.

Haha, you could proly shoot a whole special on NatGeo!
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The most fascinating thing about observing high concentrations of hipsters in their natural environment (Portland, Williamsburg, etc.) is that they seem to be taking great pains to assert their individuality though outward appearance and behavior, yet their methods of doing so conform to such a narrow spectrum at any given time that they actually appear functionally identical. I believe one may have to immerse oneself in their culture to learn to identify the finer points of hipsterism. Any volunteers? At least you've already got cameras to accessorize with....
Hah.. your comment reminded me of a cartoon that I saw recently, which I just dug up .. it's punks, but it's basically the same idea.



Oh.. and here's my photo of a hipster


Very Hip by Brandon, on Flickr
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Paul, What’s wrong with being part of “the scene” ?

Most of us seem to be part of this RFF scene.

I mean really, you have more cameras that you know what to do with.

This is off topic (sorry), but was the last sentence (bolded by me) REALLY necessary?

This kind of discourse has been increasing on RFF lately, and is making it a less pleasant place to share information/photos, get inspiration and learn from others.

"Do to others as you would have them do to you" - ring any bells?
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DSC_0078 by Mike Novak, on Flickr

My nephew Chad, who has embraced the hipster lifestyle. Film photography, vinyl records, raves, indie and classic punk rock music, flannel and madras shirts, it's all good. He has payed for the rights to his lifestyle by spending much of his young adulthood in the deserts of Iraq.
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https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourgeois-boh%C3%A8me -- "En France, le terme est plutôt utilisé de manière péjorative pour désigner des personnes aisées se proclamant de gauche mais dont les actes sont contradictoires avec les valeurs qu'ils défendent" -- and (in English) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobos_in_Paradise

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That means HCB was the ultimate Bobo

Hipster is a term I come to hate not because of the people who are hipsters but because of those who use it as derogatory term for people who shoot amongst other things toy cameras and have a certain fahionable lifestyle, honestly who cares they have the right to use a camera as fashion accessory if they want to it's their money and if they use film cameras even better. Without hipsters the economy and the film sale would be much smaller so long live the hipster.
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So far, nobody's mentioned 20/20 vision, but uses glasses anyway...
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Seems like an echo of this post of yours from 2011:

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...d.php?t=101549

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He wanted me to say something negative about him since he was feeling bad for saying something bad about me, I guess.

I said, "I don't know anything about you so how can I say something about you?"


He said, "You can call me a washed out hippie." (He was an older guy that appeared to be in his late 50s early 60s with long hair and 60s kinda styled clothes.)

I really just wanted to eat my surf and turf burger at this point and didn't respond.

He said, "I'm just writing down here at Starbucks."

I still didn't say anything. He walked away and I looked over at the Sea Salt restaurant wondering if it was 11:00am yet when they would be opening. I turned back and the guy was in the middle of the crosswalk looking at me with a huge grin on his face.
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You don't need Google. For the LA version, just look at the young(er) people in Silverlake, Los Feliz, Echo Park, & parts of DTLA.

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I still don't know what a hipster is. Seems like it's anybody you're judging. I Google image the word "Hipster" and it's just pictures of what kids are into today.
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I agree with the notion that the term "hipster" is frequently used as a put-down. But I admire younger folk who actively seek to find value in the artifacts of older culture. It certainly beats the false pretension of my generation's youth, when everyone had to have long hair and bellbottom denim in order to be "counterculture."

Myself, I have a long beard and like film cameras and manual typewriters. But what keeps me from being a "hipster" is that I can't fit into those skinny jeans!

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I google imaged "hipster", and it was pretty interesting. I think if I was living in the big city I would chase them around and take pictures with the M9, which if lucky they would mistake for an M6

Labels and pidgeonholes....a fundamental human shortcut to "understanding".

Being human I see them as sort of yuppie punks.
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So much hand-wringing over other people's lifestyles. Yeesh. Better than looking in the mirror I suppose.

Also, my user name is a Seinfeld reference, so let me preempt any idea that I am a hipster. Ask any of my friends: I'm a straight-up nerd. Computers, cameras, and cars. A nerd in all of them.

Anyway, I think Rikard said it best earlier in the thread:

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People are generally angry with any type of movement/subculture that goes against the general value system society is built on.

Look at that guy riding a bike. Why don't he get a car like a normal person! Does he think he's better than us ordinary folks?

But really is it so bad to see organic food stalls, micro breweries, and small cafes competing with McDonalds, Budweiser and Starbucks?

Some people might try to hard (with their clothing, hairdos etc). But why anybody else would be bothered by that is beyond me.
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