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Old 07-07-2015   #1
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Rolleiflex is simple and fun

I slowly get back into the "groove" after a long hiatus from shooting anything.



BTW, The above snapshot on my smartphone is not just for show, it actually serves as a reminder of which film I put in what camera and when. Very Handy!

Took the Rolleiflex to a 4th of July Celebration in the historic downtown square in McKinney, Texas, USA.






I was having a blast in the overcast sky, just shoot at 1/60 and f/2.8. The Zeiss Planar is as sharp as usual.

I developed the roll that night (my first roll developed in 2015... sigh!) and when I saw the negatives as it hanging to dry, I think to myself, Y'know, we can say anything about photography nowadays, but it doesn't get much simpler and more fun than this. And don't even talk to me about my darkroom. I want to print so badly.


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Nice content on provided scans!

I developed first roll from new to me Rolleicord IV three days ago, didn't scanned it, but printed it on 5x7 Agfa Brovira FB paper on next day.

My camera has ISO reminder and once roll is over and camera is open I'll see what film it is.
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Yeah, I love to skip the scanning part and go straight to my darkroom.

I'm slowly making my way back to the darkroom, just today I tested my darkroom timer and enlarger to see if those still turn on
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... just today I tested my darkroom timer and enlarger to see if those still turn on
Small steps, grasshopper.

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Keep documenting the return to simple and fun and to the darkroom, Will, for those of us wishfully unready or stubbornly unwilling or whatever it is that overcomplicates the process....
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Keep documenting the return to simple and fun and to the darkroom, Will, for those of us wishfully unready or stubbornly unwilling or whatever it is that overcomplicates the process....
Thanks, Robert! I need the kick in the pants.
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I was having a blast in the overcast sky, just shoot at 1/60 and f/2.8.[/url]
Very cool, but 50 ISO at 1/60 f 2.8 and overcast sky seems like it would be at least 1 stop over exposed.

FYI I use filmtrackr.com to keep track of what film is in what camera, what lens used, when started, when developed etc. It's free and really handy.
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Very cool, but 50 ISO at 1/60 f 2.8 and overcast sky seems like it would be at least 1 stop over exposed.

FYI I use filmtrackr.com to keep track of what film is in what camera, what lens used, when started, when developed etc. It's free and really handy.
You are right.
But this roll is expired, so I thought it won't hurt to overexpose it a bit.
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this roll is expired, so I thought it won't hurt to overexpose it a bit.

Almost all the film I shoot is expired, and honestly I have not noticed any of it needing more exposure. I guess if it is decades old it may.

p.s. love that composition of the toy car next to the real one.
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Almost all the film I shoot is expired, and honestly I have not noticed any of it needing more exposure. I guess if it is decades old it may.

p.s. love that composition of the toy car next to the real one.
I'm glad that your observation matches mine. My biggest batch of film expired in 2008, so not quite a decade... yet.

Thank you for the compliment on the photo. I thought that composition is somehow unbalanced, maybe too much empty space to the right of the toy car.
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I had some problems with a long time expired color film (about 8 years). I have read about a rule saying that you should add 1 stop of exposure for every 10 years of expirence. Of course also much depends on how the film was stored (e.g. in fridge)

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Example Long Expired Fujicolor NSP160S Film by Hans Kerensky, on Flickr
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When I saw your picture of the door handle shadowfox, it immediately reminded me of the feel of those, the looseness at the beginning, and then the push in as it goes chunk. I wish I saw more of those old cars around..
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I had some problems with a long time expired color film (about 8 years). I have read about a rule saying that you should add 1 stop of exposure for every 10 years of expirence. Of course also much depends on how the film was stored (e.g. in fridge)

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Example Long Expired Fujicolor NSP160S Film by Hans Kerensky, on Flickr
Hans,

I'm the type of person that don't fuss a lot about +/- 1 exposure, to me, your photo look just fine. If you increase the exposure digitally, it won't get anything blown out and you'll probably get close to what you saw that day.

Now, I wish I can see a scenery like that
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When I saw your picture of the door handle shadowfox, it immediately reminded me of the feel of those, the looseness at the beginning, and then the push in as it goes chunk. I wish I saw more of those old cars around..
On that one, I wish I thought about using f/3.5 to show more of the door curve within the depth-of-field.
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Oh, shoot, now I gotta pull out the CiroFlex!!'

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By the way, which Rolleiflex is that in the photo? Nice!
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It's the 2.8D, Dave.
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It's the 2.8D, Dave.
Thanks, man, it is a great way to start getting those beautiful images!
Glad to see you back shooting it. Great idea!
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It's great to see you back here, Dave!
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It's great to see you back here, Dave!
Thanks, I am happy!

Just got my Ciro-flex out and bagged it to take with me tomorrow. You have inspired me once again!
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I love my 2.8D. I sold the 2.8E and 2.8F, but I kept the D.
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Rollei TLR's are indeed simple to use and fun, and the cameras themselves look as good as the photos they can take. In my eyes the 2,8 D is the best looking of the 2,8's, though I wish it didn't come with the Rolleikin spool knob as standard.

Hans Kerensky, problem? That's how colour photos looked in books and brochures in the 1930's - 50's. You can easily post it somewhere and say that your grandfather took it on Agfacolor in 1940.

I have a test roll in my "new" Rolleiflex Automat (1939) that I must finish and develop. I hope it turns out well. The early Automats weigh less then the later models, so I'm planning to use it this summer and let my heavier Rolleis rest.
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Rollei TLR's are indeed simple to use and fun, and the cameras themselves look as good as the photos they can take. In my eyes the 2,8 D is the best looking of the 2,8's, though I wish it didn't come with the Rolleikin spool knob as standard.

Hans Kerensky, problem? That's how colour photos looked in books and brochures in the 1930's - 50's. You can easily post it somewhere and say that your grandfather took it on Agfacolor in 1940.

I have a test roll in my "new" Rolleiflex Automat (1939) that I must finish and develop. I hope it turns out well. The early Automats weigh less then the later models, so I'm planning to use it this summer and let my heavier Rolleis rest.
Exactly, that Rolleikin knob just complicates things. At first I thought something was jammed when I can't push/pull it out to load my film.

What's different with the Automat series, other than being lighter?
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What's different with the Automat series, other than being lighter?
Your 2,8 D is also an Automat (automatic film counter, the crank cocks the shutter while it advances the film). It's just that F&H stopped calling the Rolleiflexes "Automat" in the early 50's. After that they were called 3,5 and 2,8 plus a letter for the model.

The earlier Automats have a less rugged viewing hood, with a smaller magnifier that swings up at the back. No sportsfinder. No flash contact, and there's a cable release thread there instead.

The pre-war ones have uncoated lenses, of course. Very charming. Between 1937-39 bayonet on the taking lens only.

Here's my 1939 model:


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And my 1938 model (and the 4x4 Sports Rolleiflex from the same year):


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Nice stuff, Will. I had an Automat like JPD's '39 model, but it got wrecked, so I traded it as a parts donor. Then I got a K4A, but don't shoot it enough because it was missing the magnifier. Hans fixed me up with one, so I'll have to get to work fixing that, and use the camera more. Just too much other stuff going on.

Dave, I just got a Ciroflex Model B last weekend, but it needs the front panel aligned properly before I can start shooting with it. It's part of my "All American" collection.

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Dave, I just got a Ciroflex Model B last weekend, but it needs the front panel aligned properly before I can start shooting with it. It's part of my "All American" collection.

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Oh how I love 120 Format! A Rolleiflex is on my bucket list. Sitting on my desk is my CiroFlex with half a dozen rolls of exposed film ready to develop. I think mine is a Model E, not sure.

Sounds great to have another addition to your collection but who works on TLRs these days? Rolleiflex or other? If I take the plunge for a Rolleiflex one day, I will certainly want a CLA.
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Your 2,8 D is also an Automat (automatic film counter, the crank cocks the shutter while it advances the film). It's just that F&H stopped calling the Rolleiflexes "Automat" in the early 50's. After that they were called 3,5 and 2,8 plus a letter for the model.

The earlier Automats have a less rugged viewing hood, with a smaller magnifier that swings up at the back. No sportsfinder. No flash contact, and there's a cable release thread there instead.

The pre-war ones have uncoated lenses, of course. Very charming. Between 1937-39 bayonet on the taking lens only.

Thanks for the rundown on the Automat models. Gosh, so much history!
Now I start to understand why people like David Bailey said once that if it were only down to one camera, he'll take the Rolleiflex.
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Will...the site link at the end of this post does not work for me. Any chance you could share this site again?

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I slowly get back into the "groove" after a long hiatus from shooting anything.



BTW, The above snapshot on my smartphone is not just for show, it actually serves as a reminder of which film I put in what camera and when. Very Handy!

Took the Rolleiflex to a 4th of July Celebration in the historic downtown square in McKinney, Texas, USA.






I was having a blast in the overcast sky, just shoot at 1/60 and f/2.8. The Zeiss Planar is as sharp as usual.

I developed the roll that night (my first roll developed in 2015... sigh!) and when I saw the negatives as it hanging to dry, I think to myself, Y'know, we can say anything about photography nowadays, but it doesn't get much simpler and more fun than this. And don't even talk to me about my darkroom. I want to print so badly.


If you want, see more shots on my website (Click the image below):

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Yes, my photo website is down at the moment.
I'm rebuilding it.
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Hibbs, here's the link to the similar article that is now hosted on my new website.
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