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I wear an electronic watch 107 25.42%
I wear a mechanical spring watch (self winding or not) 196 46.56%
I do not wear a watch 137 32.54%
I own a car with manual transmission 195 46.32%
I drive an automatic car, but wish they made it with manual 52 12.35%
I drive automatic and prefer it this way 109 25.89%
I am self employed 143 33.97%
I work in a small business (<100 people) 77 18.29%
I work for a large business or government agency (non-academic) 119 28.27%
I make my own investment decisions 213 50.59%
I want an investment advisor or mutual fund manager to make decisions 52 12.35%
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Old 07-24-2015   #1
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Behavioral patterns of rangefinder users

From anecdotal evidence, I think that the following habits might be strongly correlated:
  • Using a rangefinder
  • Wearing a mechanical spring watch
  • Owning a cars with manual transmission
  • Being self employed, or at least not working for a large corporation or government.
  • Self managing investment portfolios

In short, we are a specific sort of control freaks with a tendency to distrust some aspects of social order and technology that are accepted by most people.
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Old 07-24-2015   #2
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I'm an outlier I guess.
-RF user
-I rarely wear a watch but when I do, it's a solar powered electric watch. I have a couple of mechanical pocket watches in a drawer.
-Auto transmission
-Retired government worker (of sorts)
-Pension fund managed portfolio

But I am into wrenching on old air cooled motorcycles.
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Old 07-24-2015   #3
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The only thing wrong in your list for me is the manual transmission. No problem with a manual but I get tired of shifting in heavy traffic.

I've used leicas since 1968.

I wear my fathers 25 year watch from his job. It's a Boulova self winding chronograph he received in 1976. I also have two other vintage mechanical watches. One I found in a hotel room thirty five years ago and the other is a WWII army issue with a radium dial. I sold my Rolex because it never kept as good a time as my Timex. I hate having to depend on batteries.

My Jeep is automatic and my wires Honda is automatic but have had a Porsche that was manual.

I've been self employed for 30 plus years and retiring soon. I love self employment.

I do all my own investing. No ripoff fees from brokers that couldn't care less about me.

Funny how you got it right.
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I started to use rangefinder in eighties. As teenager. Around 1983 or so.
I started to use my first personal credit card in 2003.

Our table plastic watch was made in USA and given to me as souvenir at GVG, Tektronix in Nevada City in 1995.
In 1999 I left train in Helsinki with this watch in my pocket because all mechanical ones were dead. I went to the Stockman store and came out with Citizen Titanium which I still wear every day.
In 1987 or so I purchased Swiss named (Cardinal) quartz watches, they are still around house somewhere and running.
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From anecdotal evidence, I think that the following habits might be strongly correlated:
You are completely off... I don't wear any watch, working for one of the biggest automotive supplier companies in the world (not CEO...) and I don't even own a car (neither manual nor auto-transmission - heck, I proudly don't even have a drivers license... ), and I don't care about investment-decisions at all.

I'm just watching the world around me, and take pictures of it with RFs.
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Old 07-24-2015   #6
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I disagree for 2 reasons:

1) The latter 4 attributes do not correlate to being an RF shooter, as others have stated.

As it pertains to me:
  • I do shoot an RF, but
  • I wear a solar-powered watch
  • My car has automatic transmission
  • I work for a large corporation (the type of work that I do is typically only available at large corporations.
  • My investment portfolio is managed by a financial adviser

2) Those same attributes do not correlate to being a "specific sort of control freaks with a tendency to distrust some aspects of social order and technology that are accepted by most people."

I do not distrust social order and my work is very closely related to technology.
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You might want to add (not sure if you can) a response for those outside of the US for driving manual... over in the UK other than buses its pretty rare to see anyone driver anything other than a manual. I guess the same in Western Europe too.
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I have an older Oris diving watch (Automatic).
I drive an automatic (Honda Element), but couldn't find a used manual at the time.
I currently work for a non profit educational publisher.
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I don't wear a watch.
I drive an automatic.
I have mostly worked in the public sector (academic).
I do not manage my own investments.

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Old 07-24-2015   #10
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Cann't confirm your hypothesis:

I don't wear a watch.
I sometimes drive an automatic. Othertimes I shift manually; mostly though, I shift with my foot.
I work in a large software/high-tech company.
I do not manage my own investments.

I detest control freaks.
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Old 07-24-2015   #11
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I forget to wind, too lazy to shift, retired grunt employee and worked hard to become one, don't invest exactly. I like autofocus, exposure and electric advance on my digital camera. So there!
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Not of the pattern.

No watch. Civic with autofocus transmission.
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I don't wear a watch - unless I'm traveling, then it's mechanical; never going to buy an iWatch.
I was never going to buy a car with Automatic transmission - then I moved to California and am grateful I did because of the sharp hills and traffic ( and overly regulated state setting all the fun twisty roads as 35mph zones - taking all the fun out of driving ) ; but if I moved home to Scotland I would buy a manual and whiz through the curves at 60 mph again. However if I had a choice I would rather travel by train and bicycle.
I work for a large electronics corporation, which pays for nice camera gear - but I wish I worked for myself and dream I could control my work life balance.

The last thee cameras I bought were all mechanical RF or scale focus film cameras - guess I'm a luddite at heart.
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I think this would apply as much to the general RFF membership overall, as we are largely photographers of a more traditional sort.

I shoot manual-focus/manual-exposure SLRs for 135 and TLRs for medium format. Since I rarely use my only RF, a Canonet, I didn't vote in the poll.

I wear mechanical watches (a railroad pocket watch or a 17-jewel wind-it-yourself wrist watch that I got for Christmas in 1962),
My Honda Accord has a stick shift, and
I like to write with fountain pens.
Beyond that, I'm a retired state employee.

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You might want to add (not sure if you can) a response for those outside of the US for driving manual... over in the UK other than buses its pretty rare to see anyone driver anything other than a manual.
That and I don`t wear a watch.
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I guess my watch counts as electronic - a Tag 2000 that I've worn for about a quarter of a century. I drive a manual but am not averse to automatic transmissions. I work for a large company, and I'm married to a chartered accountant - so violence would ensue were I ever to try to make my own investment choices.

Your correlation seems about as strong as that between moral conviction and the desire to become Prime Minister.
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No watch (my low tech feature phone has a clock), small business (editor, photographer, and manage dozens of computers across seven newspapers, designed and manage seven websites), have a general distrust of technology, auto transmission (2002 Jeep), but have had many manual shift cars over the years. Have several RF's, but my aging eyes really love autofocus slrs. Professional manages finances.

I'm not sure there is a typical RF shooter, other than being mostly male.
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I use RF when it pleases me to do so, but when I get a chance to photograph, I prefer film SLRs or even sometimes a 6mp digital P&S. My 1st RF was my Super Press 23, because it had big negatives. No belief in any superiority of RF over SLR.

I grew up with manual transmissions, but find auto transmissions convenient.

I haven't used a wind watch since electronic watches could be set not to beep every hour.

I worked at what I enjoyed and earned two retirements which I am enjoying while working on another, which also offers contributions to my choice of any of several stock funds. I have no other choices than which funds. I don't think that is what you mean by self management.
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You are completely off... I don't wear any watch, working for one of the biggest automotive supplier companies in the world (not CEO...) and I don't even own a car (neither manual nor auto-transmission - heck, I proudly don't even have a drivers license... ), and I don't care about investment-decisions at all.

I'm just watching the world around me, and take pictures of it with RFs.
I like this.
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I wear an electronic watch. That's all I could check. Still love rangefinders.
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Stereotypes... gotta love 'em.
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Just a retired old fart here. I wear the cheapest Timex Expedition watch. I drive a Nissan Leaf all electric car. (I signed over the title to my Camery to my son with the understanding that if we need a distance car for a vacation we will just switch cars for that time.) Investments. The missus is the brains of outfit. Because of her quick witted action I only lost 5% of my portfolio in the 2008 crash, (long past restored back to 5~6% growth). I only dabble in photography and although I have a M4-2 my favorite camera is the original Olympus Pen VF camera with manual shutter, aperture and focus and a very nice projected bright frame viewfinder. With it's little 28mm f3.5 lens you just scale focus and don't even need a rangefinder.
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When I wear a watch, it's a Skagen quartz watch; I just want it to be reliable. I hate all cars and just want one that won't break down. I wish I didn't have to own one. I maintain a couple of investment portfolios through the university where I work but have configured them for minimal fuss; I'm allergic to anything to do with money. I wish I had more money, but can't be bothered to do whatever is necessary to get some.

I do love Leicas, fountain pens, and old electric guitars and amplifiers, though!
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I don't wear a watch.

I can't drive.

I work in a hotel.
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RF users have one thing in common.

Stubbornness. LOL

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In short, we are a specific sort of control freaks with a tendency to distrust some aspects of social order and technology that are accepted by most people.
I don't understand where this is coming from. I use a rangefinder camera, because it is a great technology.
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I'd say RFs are more lack of control freaks myself
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Yeah I should add that I'm not enthusiastic about RFs because of any distaste for modern tech. I love modern tech. RFs just feel great to use and are beautifully designed.
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I don't wear watch (still looking for one that is both vintage and reliable )

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i only fit with the manual transmission... and even that, is only true due to statistics... (in Europe, 95% of second-hand cars are manual)
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This poll plus the Bike poll may be used to form a RF user profile
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I like how there's no option for "I don't own a car"
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Of course, this poll is not a rigorous study. Transmissions and retirement planning options are very different outside North America, so these responses are hard to interpret. Also, there is a fair amount of professional photographers here to inflate the self employed numbers.

But, I think the elevated numbers of mechanical watch wearers (>40%) and people not wearing a watch at all are interesting. This is definitely higher than in the general population.
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I like how there's no option for "I don't own a car"
Yes, I know and I live in NYC too. But a poll only allows 12 options here, so we have to make use of not checking a box as an option too.

Not owning a car is normal for urban dwellers and does not tell us anything about a preference for mechanical vs electronic technology. So it is not the same as not wearing a watch, which I think does tell us something.
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Behavioral patterns of rangefinder users?

They want to know what others are doing and using a lot.
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I only have an electric watch because my son gave me the Apple Watch as a birthday gift. I'm actually quite pleased with its functionality that goes far beyond their advertisement.

On the employment question there is no option for retired although I suppose one could call that "self-employed." I pay myself nothing more than minimum wage, the rest of my income held in reserve just in case a camera or lens deal that speaks to comes around.
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They want to know what others are doing and using a lot.
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