Leica IIc or IIIc you pick for me!
Old 01-04-2017   #1
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Leica IIc or IIIc you pick for me!

I'm planning a few paint jobs in the near future,

I'm set on getting a screw mount body to dunk as my test/control for a line of chemistry I have not previously used.

So I've found both IIc and IIIc bodies in the same price range (sub-200$)

Its going to end up gloss black, which would you like to see?

Let's keep it between these two models (I have my trusty old III that ide rather keep chrome...well brass with some chrome hanging in there)

Ultimately the camera will end up in our classifieds so I'm leaving the choice to you!
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Old 01-04-2017   #2
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Get a IIIc, never know when you're really going to want (or need) the slower shutter speeds. Have fun with the project!
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IIIc but either of them will look killer in black.
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Old 01-04-2017   #4
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I would go for the IIc if you rarely shoot at less than 1/30th of sec.

No slow speed escapement governor to gum up and the IIc is a much rarer beast.
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Old 01-04-2017   #5
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I was leaning a little towards the IIc for the simple reason you just do not see them as often.
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IIc for all the mentioned reasons. Good luck, show your results?
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Old 01-05-2017   #7
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Ooh!

We've got a draw 2-IIc 2-IIIc

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Johan, I'll be making a thread to throw random updates at, I'll make a mental note to link you!
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+1 for the IIc. I have one and I like it a lot.
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If you are going to experiment, wouldn't it be better on a more common example?
I would like to see a IIIc in matte green or khaki.
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Regarding the IIc, wouldn't that drop the value of an already rare object? And significantly?
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Go with the IIIc, since as mentioned it's a more common item.
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As in my op,

I've found both cameras for sub-200$.

Neither of these cameras are actually rare, at least not from where I'm sitting.

I had the opposite inclination... I assume the value will increase considering the actual rarity of opportunity for anyone to purchase a repainted IIc or IIIc.

Green or Khaki sounds interesting, I'll be honest safety orange comes to mind!
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A IIc in orange with a gray griptac covering.
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Gloss black IIIc

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As in my op,

I've found both cameras for sub-200$.

Neither of these cameras are actually rare, at least not from where I'm sitting.

I had the opposite inclination... I assume the value will increase considering the actual rarity of opportunity for anyone to purchase a repainted IIc or IIIc.

Green or Khaki sounds interesting, I'll be honest safety orange comes to mind!
No, they are not rare in a Leica IIId or Compur Leica sort of way, but the IIc is still rarer than the very common Leica IIIc non stepper.
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Old 01-05-2017   #16
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Nice! Got 1 for Orange!

I could head over to HugoStudios eBay page and grab some their bright orange leatherette.

Im sure I could paint match the leatherette and it's cheap (30$ in the states!)

I'm feeling pretty inspired by this orange actually!
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Found this example of a Red IIIf/st from Japan Camera Hunter done by Kanto Camera.

Thinking rally orange IIc!?
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If Leica can offer up a Hermes edition MP in orange leather for ten grand, an X2 with an orange top plate, showing some love to a beater IIc by giving it new life in rally orange with chrome controls puts it in the realm of "special editions". Can't wait to see it!
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Old 01-05-2017   #19
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MadNBad I was debating wether or not to paint the controls, I'm feeling the chrome!

Can we add to this mental image?

A mint Voigtlander 50/2.5 Skopar I stole from BH at the song they had it listed.
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Just the lens I was thinking of. Add the LH-2 lens hood to complete the ensemble.
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Ooh... I got the chrome too

Just delivered this morning!

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Old 01-06-2017   #22
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Committed to the IIc

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Leica-IIc-35mm...d=829001532023
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That looks sweet !

I hope it comes with a contrasty RF patch and sound shutter curtains.
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That looks sweet !

I hope it comes with a contrasty RF patch and sound shutter curtains.
It does come with a 6-Month Warranty and a guarantee to be in "Good" working order upon arrival, it is Calumet, so I'm hopeful!

HugoStudio.com is dyeing me a custom orange covering this weekend.

I'll be searching out paint this weekend to gather a few swatches, I'll post those options when I have them, and everyone can help me pick!



Edit: Should I paint the cold shoe? Planning to leave the controls chrome. I am thinking I'll paint the bezel covering the slow speed cavity orange to blend with the top.

With the troubling news of Toms passing, I want to dedicate this project to my friend and mentor.
You inspired a young man many years ago! I want to show my immense gratitude to you for letting me bug you so often with silly questions and goofy inspirations. I'll miss you bud! It's difficult to find the words... you've touched so many hearts in our little community...
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The Orange leatherette has arrived!

Big shout out to HugoStudio.com for the sweet custom job!

Now to find some paint! The camera arrives Saturday and should be stripped of Chrome by Monday
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If the plating on the accessory shoe is in good shape, leave it chrome.
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tempting me to do my own project...
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You should! Great way to keep the winter blues at bay for us northern folk.
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I have friends in the auto industry who do powder coating, media removal so I could totally use their services to strip a top and bottom plate no problem. The important thing to note is that I also know someone who hydrodips. I've always wanted to do something with it as Ive never really seen anything like it before in the leica world.
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I like everything black, except the springs in the accessory shoe. Unfortunately mine has chrome strap lugs.

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I could see the hydrodip giving an even coat, never have seen it done in person, I wonder how thick it usually goes on?

Be careful if you use media to "blast" off the chrome and nickel, the brass really warms up quick with all that friction. (Experience with a M3)

I'm trying a product called B929, purchased from Caswell Plating, it strips Nickel from Brass.
It comes as a powder you mix with water, heat, then soak your parts.

For the chrome Im using Muriatic Acid which does a really nice job if you don't mind the set and forget approach to a project! It does take a fair amount of time depending on the strength. Ive always left it for a day, rinse thoroughly, if there are stubborn spots I'll usually hit them with a plastic bristle brush, then resoak in a fresh pool of acid.

A quick cleaning up with fine sandpaper and it's ready for paint.

*Always wear the proper safety equipment*

I'm going to try and bake the paint, never done this, so there are definitely some new and exciting things to experiment with!
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I believe the hydrodip is very thin. I'd look at doing it to apply graphics don't want to give too much away.
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Erik,

My IIc has a different style shoe spring.

Two button top chrome screws and a spring plate (which needs some tweaking).

Maybe just keep the two screw heads chrome!?

There is a link above the the exact camera if your curious.

I think I'll try and find the later type seen on yours.
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Glad to see its the IIc. Purely because I think it would look just a tad more cool in black. I hope this is still going to be black......not orange or some other unnatural insult. What I couldn't determine from the thread above -- retain the chrome bits (knobs) or not? I like the look of retained chrome knobs.

Wait. Orange? "sigh"..... well, let's see it when you're done.

I think we'll all be commemorating a much-loved RFF member for a while. This is a nice one. Even if its .....orange.
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This one will surely be Orange,

If only for it being my favorite color.

Next I'll be doing a Black IIIc to satisfy this post, that camera will be for sale when complete. I've almost got the funds and have found 2 suitable candidates.

Blew my walking around money this pay period on chemistry and leatherette! Sold my Rolleiflex for the Skopar and IIc.

But I've listed some stuff in the classifieds, hoping to buy a few cameras just with the purpose of painting for others to enjoy.
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My IIc has a different style shoe spring.
Yes, mine has the IIIc type. I don't know it will a IIc.

I agree that a Color-Skopar looks super cool on a IIIc. I bought a mint black one for mine. Hard to get one those days. Not only for fondling, but also for photography a great lens.

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But I've listed some stuff in the classifieds, hoping to buy a few cameras just with the purpose of painting for others to enjoy.
Are you still looking for an M8? I thought you sold yours?
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Yes still looking for an M8,

Sold mine a year ago,

So if I can find a good deal after selling my Fuji gear, I'll be back!

I could likely buy a IIIc every month at the prices im finding.

Edit: If I do get another M8... I would have to sell the D2! Tough decision I'm happy waiting to make haha
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I agree that a Color-Skopar looks super cool on a IIIc. I bought a mint black one for mine. Hard to get one those days. Not only for fondling, but also for photography a great lens.

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This is my second copy, first was black, and I'm really excited to have this lens again.

I sold my old one when prices were so-so and when I approached buying another the prices had gone through the roof.

After a few weeks of casual search I scored my 9/10 Rated Chrome copy from BH at the unholy sum of 219$ shipped.

Surely I thought it was a mistake and took the risk it played out just fine for me and if I had the box It could pass as New.
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