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Old 05-20-2018   #41
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Enjoy yourself Raid! I take even less gear than you when holidaying or travelling, carrying the minimum possible - one camera with a 35mm lens. I travelled across South America with a Minox, and climbed European volcanoes with a Leica M8 and a 35mm.


Mount Etna - caldera with sulphur deposits

This is in contrast to my personal photographic projects. My last was in London - and over its 3 years I walked about 500 miles, carrying several kilos of camera equipment plus a pair of aluminium steps for an elevated view (I got quite a lot of hassle from police and security - not that I was doing anything wrong but, rather, they considered me unusual = a threat, sadly!*)

* I solved the problem eventually by wearing a fluorescent worker’s jacket with “Project Services” printed on it - a tip I found on the web. It really works! I suddenly became invisible - clearly I was “doing something official” and meant to be there...! Took a few trips before I felt comfortable in my fluorescent green, but, with being ignored, my confidence soon grew. Only one small downside: although most people ignored me, I did get noticed by the occasional drunk (I was fluorescent after all...!), and a few panicked as they thought I was a traffic warden!
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my most common set for travel when I want it very small and light


Sony NEX5n, Cosina Voigtlander f4.5/15 and f4/25, M-Rokkor f2/40mm


travel set by kuuan's lens tests, on Flickr

my set varies, to Myanmar last year I took Sony A7 + CV f4/21 + Canon LTM 2/35 + Canon LTM f1.4/50mm.

to the set seen above sometimes I add an Olympus "Pen-F" f3.5/100mm, that made my set for a recent 16 day trip around Java: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/...57695242040894 )

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whichever, most important is that it fits into my waist belt bag. No weight on shoulders, both hands always free, fast access to and storing away of camera, at the same time never bothering, one may as well forget that one carries anything at all. ( I do not understand why these kind of waist bags are not more popular. I had to buy mine used, twice, because the model is discontinued and no other, similar around )


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I decided for a smaller "travel gear".
Almost as tiny as Oly XA or Minox 35 are.
Fits to every pocket and provides me with stabilization and 26-500mm equivalent field of view and panos up to 360 degrees.
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Raid, you’ve been on plenty of trips with cameras, why upset the apple cart? What has worked in the past will continue to work (with the right charger of course!).
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Last fall I hiked the C2C trail across northern England. Originally, I planned on carrying a Leica film camera and 35/90 lens combo. Well, hiking 196 miles over two weeks in terrible weather (rain and wind) across rather rugged terrain (Lake District) quickly changed my plan. I ended up with a Fuji X70 set on full auto shooting jpegs and it worked great. The film outfit got used but it was when I was in a hotel in York for a few days exploring the city.

I have done enough wilderness travel and other expeditions to know better but I still think I will bring home world class images. It is not that I am not a fair photographer but the amount of energy and time needed just for the travel in those conditions saps the energy and time you devote to photography. And often the light or subject matter just does not cooperate.

My advice is to keep it simple. I am back to one body and perhaps two lenses but this time digital: MP240 with 35f2.8 C Biogon and 90f2.8 Tele Elmarit M. Both those lenses are SMALL.
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Enjoy yourself Raid! I take even less gear than you when holidaying or travelling, carrying the minimum possible - one camera with a 35mm lens. I travelled across South America with a Minox, and climbed European volcanoes with a Leica M8 and a 35mm.


Mount Etna - caldera with sulphur deposits

This is in contrast to my personal photographic projects. My last was in London - and over its 3 years I walked about 500 miles, carrying several kilos of camera equipment plus a pair of aluminium steps for an elevated view (I got quite a lot of hassle from police and security - not that I was doing anything wrong but, rather, they considered me unusual = a threat, sadly!*)

* I solved the problem eventually by wearing a fluorescent worker’s jacket with “Project Services” printed on it - a tip I found on the web. It really works! I suddenly became invisible - clearly I was “doing something official” and meant to be there...! Took a few trips before I felt comfortable in my fluorescent green, but with being ignored my confidence soon grew. Only one small downside: although most people ignored me, I did get noticed by the occasional drunk (I was fluorescent after all...!), and a few panicked as they thought I was a traffic warden!
Rich I took a look at your portfolio and it's stunning! One rarely sees originality especially executed so beautifully but youve done it.
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Rich I took a look at your portfolio and it's stunning! One rarely sees originality especially executed so beautifully but youve done it.
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There are many posts here, with a variety of suggestions and examples on what people here tend to take with them on their trips. There is a group of photographers who prefer to keep things simple, and one camera with one lens would be the chosen kit then.

The iphone is used for family snapshots. I want to try out the Hologon with buildings, scenics and street scenes (Milan, Lugano, Bern, Zurich, Lauterbrunnen, and Lyon). The 35 Lux would be good to complement the Hologon.
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Your posted work looks beautiful, Rich.
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Doesn't the supporting hardware required, i.e. batteries, chargers, converters etc. - all of which must be used daily - complicate digital photography?

I think it's just easier to bring a low-maintenance film camera.

When possible I buy film at my destination and have exposed rolls processed there or shipped home undeveloped, bypassing airport security issues.

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Doesn't the supporting hardware required i.e. batteries, chargers converters etc. - all of which must be used daily - really complicate digital photography?
Carrying an extra battery and charger is less hassle than carrying or buying film on location. Honestly, neither is a big deal, so shoot whichever you prefer.
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...................... While on travel, why would you take something else than what you are used to ?
.................. you don't take "different" photos when you travel. Hence no "different" gear to take with you.
Limit your gear size and weight but take the gear you like to use most, even when not on travel, and feel natural with ..............

Sums up my thinking exactly
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For general travel:


Film: Olympus OM-4Ti with 21mm and 28-48mm, OM-1 backup body, or
Digital: Fuji XT2 with 10-24mm and 18-55mm, XE2 backup body


For photography specific travel, obviously more.
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Sums up my thinking exactly
Yes, this is the logical thing to do. 35/1.4 Lux and 50/2 Cron.
Adding the 16/8 may be a plus?
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Raid, you’ve been on plenty of trips with cameras, why upset the apple cart? What has worked in the past will continue to work (with the right charger of course!).
The M9-SWC kit seemed like a winner to me.
Switching the SWC with a Hologon is an option.
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Are you returning to places you've been to, Raid? If so, take different gear; your photos will not be the same. If not, just take the gear you can handle in the dark.

I'll be going to Europe in a month too... but in a busman's holiday. In these cases, I take my trustworthy Nikon D700 (for "promotional" images) and a Leica body with two lenses (for my own personal stuff). Usually I take a 35-90 combo (and force myself to use the 90 at least twice a week), and never carry both lenses with me when I leave the apartment. This time I'll take my M4-P with an Elmarit 28mm f2.8 (a bit limiting for the night shots I want to make... again), and a Summicron 90. Whenever I leave my place, I only take a camera and a lens. The only exception is when I walk with the Nikon, because then I carry an SB-600 flash with.

Looks like you'll cover a lot of ground in two weeks! Good luck and happy traveling!
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Thank you Francisco.
We will be exploring new grounds during the upcoming trip. It will vary from cities (Milan, Lyon, Zurich, Bern) to some mountain areas (Lauterbrunnen) and in between (Lugano).

"same" would be Lux 35/1.4 and M9. I will keep them both.
"new" would be Zeiss Hologon 16/8. [Robert wants to see the lens]
Also, Milan has a nice looking cathedral and other architecture. Same applies to Lyon's Old Town and parts of Zurich.
I could add the 75/1.4 Lux or Canon 85/.15 or Nikon 105 or the tiny Canon 100/3.5? Maybe not.
If I want to take some risks, I would take only the Hologon on the M9 and the rigid Summicron on the M9.
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Here's a typical setup, with my 4x5 and 4 lenses with 18 sheets of film, Rolleicord, and Nikon SP with 4 lenses. 35mm/120 film is in a little side pouch and tripod attaches to the outside. I swap out pieces depending on what I'm doing. Sometimes instead of the 4x5 and Rollei it's just my Pentax 67ii and a few lenses. Sometimes it's my Leica M6. Sometimes if I'm going on a longer trip to varying locations I'll have a couple of bags with different kits in them - a view camera bag for landscapes, a small 35mm bag for just walking in a city having fun. This all fits as a carry-on for a flight.

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Last fall on a trip to Europe, I brought two cameras. One digital (Canon) one film (Leica) each with one lens, a 50 f1.4 for the digital and 50 f2 for film. Brought a light meter for the film camera. Only black and white film. Spare battery and charger for the digital camera.

We traveled from Prague to Paris, then back to Minneapolis. Never had anyone hand inspect my stuff. Even at the airport in Paris.

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I may use 2 digital cameras and 2-3 lenses total, Bill. 35/1.4 and 50/2 and on the side, the 16/8 for enjoyment of architectural photos.
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Have fun Raid.

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When possible I buy film at my destination and have exposed rolls processed there or shipped home undeveloped, bypassing airport security issues.
I find it harder and harder to buy film on the go these days. Especially when you are not in bigger cities. Developing them locally is an even bigger challenge. At least in Asia.

These days, when I feel lazy (which is pretty often), it's just an Olympus Pen F (M4/3) and a tiny Panasonic 12-32mm for my travel needs. Occasionally, I will add a Panasonic 35-100mm, which is smaller and way light than any of my 50 Lux.

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Hope you have a wonderful trip.
Thank you, Bill. It will be 100% a family trip.
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Packing some gear for a USA car trip made me think of this article. I loaded my M9, M6, and three lenses, and the Leica D-Lux 6, along with film and batteries into my Think Tank Retrospective 5. Then I wondered whether I really wanted to use that bag. I unloaded and switched to a Domke F-6. Then added a fourth lens. I wasn't going to bring the X100, but I couldn't close the bag until I put the X100 in as well. It's the funniest thing, but I seem to get separation anxiety if I don't include the X100. I think I'm bonded to it!

So I guess the moral is, if you are bonded to a certain camera, don't leave it behind!
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This is a good point, Rob. I will use what has been working well for me and what I am very much accustomed to be using. The 35/1.4 Lux and the rigid Summicron 50/2 are my most used lenses. I will miss either one if left behind. I am used to having the Lux on the M9 and the Cron on the M8. It just works for me this way.
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A nice option! Keeps it simple, 3 lenses, two bodies, interchangeable, and most importantly fun.
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I always struggle with travel kit because one always wants to have gear which meets a range of needs that are not always predictable in advance.

First, I like to have something quite wide which is not normal for me but good when traveling - I learned this from a recent trip to Bali when I took an M4/3 camera and had nothing really wide enough on a few occasions. (Up to then I had always taken my Nikon DSLR but - oh my aching back! So, M4/3 it was last time and I suspect in future also). Having said that I usually prefer to shoot in a normal lens to medium tele range. I also found it is useful to have a lens that is considerably longer than normal for a few shots. Fortunately that is quite easy with M4/3 due to its cropped sensor. And also I found that I really like to have something available for low light. That's not too hard lens wise as there are many sufficiently fast lenses available for these cameras, but M4/3 camera sensors are not really up to par (even now) when it comes to shooting at night as there is still a lot of noise in the images. So I think next time I will take two smallish format cameras. An M4/3 camera with a couple of normal and short tele lenses (30mm and 75mm should do it) plus a 135mm lens in LTM or M mount and an adapter. Last time I had a Canon 135mm in LTM and its performance confirmed its great reputation. This kit will be for usual day to day shooting.

For those occasions when I need low light (night) performance I will also take my Sony NEX F3 mounting a 30mm Sigma lens. This cheap little camera performs brilliantly in low light due to its bigger sensor and modest pixel count. And the same camera body will be nice when I need something very wide as I can mount a Samyang 12mm f2 rectilinear lens on it and get about 18mm equivalent (the same lens on my M4/3 would be 24mm equivalent). Incidentally the lens I have is in M4/3 native mount and is manual focus. That means I can use a thin m4/3 to NEX adapter and use it on both systems. Getting double the bang for my buck.
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Raid, Given that you'll be photographing during your family holiday....the simpler the gear selection, the better. you might just get some interesting photos with the Hologon ....
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Raid, I think I recall you being very pleased you brought along the E-P2 last time? Those photographs were great.
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1 weeks through Java Island..
A very simple setup .. 2 M body and same exactly 35mm lens... hexanon 35mm .. single coat for bw and multi coat for color..
I brought +/- 15 rolls of film .. 8 color 7 bw ..
its enough for 1 weeks ..

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Raid, my solution for three month's travel (partly on motorbike) in Europe recently was:
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Many interesting and different ideas here, some not much "keeping it simple" but it's ok to have different views.

Personally I always decide first if it is a journey made to take photos, to prepare a body of work about a specific subject or if the journey is made to enjoy the experience of a different country, different people, food, culture, friends...

In the first case of course gear selection must be done in function of the final goal, can include more cameras, lenses and accessories. Also time scheduled in function of the goal, maybe getting up in the night to be in the exact place at the right time...

But in the second case (as it seems to be Raid's case) keeping it simple and adapting yourself to the circumstances very oft gives a better visual results...one camera and a couple of lenses...done...ok add a second body in case of failure of the first one...lightweight you can move more...immerse yourself more in the situation not seeming a "paparazzi" ...

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There is a factor affecting my choices in gear that has not been discussed so far in this thread. Driving a small car can be advantageous on some European roads, and small cars will have small trunk space. Last summer, we tried out not to check in a single piece of luggage. We used only carry-on luggage and it was fine. Think simple. Given that I am allowed one carry-on bag and one "camera bag/purse/laptop", I am careful not to take with me camera gear that is too large or bulky.

As Robert has stated above, we will be on a family trip more than anything else. It is a cultural adventure for our two daughters, and it is a lot of fun to us all. I am looking forward to meeting up again with Robert and his wife (5th time?). I hope that we will be able to swing by the main Leica store in Milan together. The past Leica CEO kindly connected me with the General Manager there. I may have been 10 years old when I was in Lugano the last time. I then enjoyed some Toblerone chocolate. I recall riding on a paddling boat on Lugano Lake and also using that special train that crawls up a mountain. Time goes by quickly !
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Just returned from another four day road trip on the motorcycle. Traveling by motorcycle puts extreme constraints on what I can carry since I only have a 22L back of the seat bag and a small tank bag. It's about or a little less than the space of one carry-on bag for an airline, total, and you have to carry both cold weather and rain gear.

Anyway, this trip I took the iPhone 8 Plus and a MiNT (Polaroid SX-70) SLR670a, with two packs of film. The iPhone 8 Plus has a remarkably good camera that is very flexible. The SX-70 is as usual. :-)

I made about 90 exposures between the two, and a few are quite nice. The kit took up very little space (iPhone in my jacket inside pocket, SX-70 and film in the tank bag along with my electric vest, sunglasses, wallet, and other incidentals).

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** Mhe biggest problem packing for a trip with my tiny motorcycle luggage is fitting in space for a pair of shoes! Riding boots are not great for walking any distance in.
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I also have an iPhone 8 Plus. It has an excellent camera. I will add my sneakers and one pair of shoes for the conference where I will give a talk in Lugano. (about spatial cancer clusters in the USA)
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