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Old 06-23-2018   #81
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Considering the sales of the x100 and X series bodies and the trend back toward film and mechanical controls, I think actually that the Df has a very high chance of an update - either in mirrorless or Mirrored form.
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I bought a Df right after they came out and I'm still delighted with it. Matter of fact if something happened to it I'd buy another. Besides beautiful files it provides a level of comfort and familiarity for an old film shooter that no other DSLR provides.
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I bought a Df right after they came out and I'm still delighted with it. Matter of fact if something happened to it I'd buy another. Besides beautiful files it provides a level of comfort and familiarity for an old film shooter that no other DSLR provides.
I have to agree with this. Having the Df as a first DSLR after using only film for decades lends a touch of familiarity. Nikon took a gamble with making the Df useable with non-Ai lenses which appealed to a small number of users. Some of my lenses are too old to even take advantage of that feature but a couple Ai-S lenses have been chipped and are fun to use. The hipster market has moved on leaving a bunch of lightly used Dfs' for those of us who appreciate them.
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I bought a Df right after they came out and I'm still delighted with it. Matter of fact if something happened to it I'd buy another. Besides beautiful files it provides a level of comfort and familiarity for an old film shooter that no other DSLR provides.
I had one but sold it. Yes the image quality was wonderful. I loved the controls, but low light auto focusing was a bear. (The DF has no AF illuminater) Plus using the manual focusing green dot was tolerable but a far cry from split image focusing. Fix this and I would get an updated version.
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...using the manual focusing green dot was tolerable but a far cry from split image focusing. Fix this and I would get an updated versio.
Nikon should release a Df.2 as a swan song to the Mirror, with interchangeable focussing screens (One really bright split screen).
Or they could adopt mirrorless, make one with classic controls/metal body/huge viewfinder and have focus peaking and the digital split screen finder options like Fuji

Either way, I'd buy one.
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Nikon should release a Df.2 as a swan song to the Mirror, with interchangeable focussing screens (One really bright split screen).
Or they could adopt mirrorless, make one with classic controls/metal body/huge viewfinder and have focus peaking and the digital split screen finder options like Fuji

Either way, I'd buy one.
Id be right behind you in line to buy one!
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I had one but sold it. Yes the image quality was wonderful. I loved the controls, but low light auto focusing was a bear. (The DF has no AF illuminater) Plus using the manual focusing green dot was tolerable but a far cry from split image focusing. Fix this and I would get an updated version.
I had this screen installed shortly after buying the camera. It helps with focusing manual lenses but mostly it cleaned up the clutter.
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I had this screen installed shortly after buying the camera. It helps with focusing manual lenses but mostly it cleaned up the clutter.
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where did you get this?
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where did you get this?
It was done by Advance Camera Repair in Raleigh Hills, OR. I'm not sure of the supplier they ordered it through but I can ask them and send you a PM within the next few days.
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Pick up your DF. Put it to your eye. Focus on something close to you. Set the aperture at 2.8. Push the depth of field preview lever. Now set the aperture to f 1.4. Push the depth of field preview lever.
Guess what? No change.

Yeah, it works real well with manual lenses....

The thing is, Nikon knows how to make good AF work with fantastic mf. They did it with the F6 which has the best mf vf out of any SLR I have used.
They chose to cut corners with the DF. Which is reflective now in its dearth of sales.
Sweeney has a good review of the Df where he gives a paragraph or two about the Df viewfinder and differences between a sensor plane and film plane. Personally my fastest glass is 1.8 at 50 and 85 and with the magnifier and dot I have no problem. Im not opposed to going live view in low light. I do not do AF. Ill try what you talk about just to see but with the way I shoot it doesnt matter I think. I shot the Df with and without magnifier this morning. It sucks without the eyepiece.

My only complaint about the Df is the shutter mode selector lever. I am going to file that thing off someday.

As for a Df2 imo I think it is dependent on the F mount and Nikons roadmap for said mount. I think I have read that the F mount presents some difficulties for no mirror. If they do go for another Df I would want to stay at 16mp and F mount. So the Df seems to be as good as one can get as it is or at the least good enough. Something nice for a Df2 would be cinema quality video.

Df and F2. Set of primes 20-300. Its a fairly compact powerful hybrid system.
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As for a Df2 imo I think it is dependent on the F mount and Nikons roadmap for said mount. I think I have read that the F mount presents some difficulties for no mirror. If they do go for another Df I would want to stay at 16mp and F mount.
It doesn't look like it is going to happen at all... and it would never be 16mp if it does.
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No DF2. There will be a mirrorless FF Nikon that will solve the focus screen and size problems. Will be an extension tube for all previous slr lenses that will make it grow back.

Will I buy one? Not a chance.
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No DF2. There will be a mirrorless FF Nikon that will solve the focus screen and size problems. Will be an extension tube for all previous slr lenses that will make it grow back.

Will I buy one? Not a chance.
Say what? I don't understand this. What will grow back?
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