Beginner's dilemma. 50 mm
Old 01-20-2019   #1
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Beginner's dilemma. 50 mm

I have to make a decision ... M Hexanon or Planar?
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Old 01-20-2019   #2
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Planar... just cuz
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Old 01-20-2019   #3
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No dilemma... either will do just fine.
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Old 01-20-2019   #4
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Take a step back and evaluate why your choice is limited to these two lenses. There are thousands more to choose from... OK, perhaps not thousands...hundreds?
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Old 01-20-2019   #5
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Can't speak to the planar but the M Hexanon is a very good lens.

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Old 01-20-2019   #6
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Take a step back and evaluate why your choice is limited to these two lenses. There are thousands more to choose from... OK, perhaps not thousands...hundreds?
I know ... but these two lenses have a good reputation. They are at a similar price. I am looking for a lens that will be sharp and good microcontrast. And with fantastic image:-)
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Old 01-20-2019   #7
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I am looking for a lens that will be sharp and good microcontrast. And with fantastic image:-)
Then buy the planar...
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Old 01-20-2019   #8
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I have had both. The Hexanon is gone; I sold it because it never focused correctly with my M6. The Planar remains. But really, that doesn't matter as much as actually taking pictures, learning how to see, and refining your vision of the world.
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Old 01-20-2019   #9
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I'v had the planar and now have the Hexanon.
while excellent the planar was a little harsh for me.
the Hexanon has a good blend of contrast and sharpness while still being delicate.

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Old 01-20-2019   #10
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1." The Hexanon is gone; I sold it because it never focused correctly with my M6"
2."but the M Hexanon is a very good lens"
3. it's hard to make a decision. I return to the rangefinder camera after twenty years with a large format..
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Old 01-20-2019   #11
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No dilemma... either will do just fine.
This.

"Eany meany miney mo" would work for making your decision. For a more involved, though not necessarily any more useful, way of choosing, you could go to the M-mount flickr group and bring up slideshows of images with both lenses and make a choice based on the results you see. It would give you the feeling of making an informed choice, though I suspect eany meany miney mo would save you time with no loss of image quality.
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Old 01-20-2019   #12
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I sold Planar very quick. It was boring lens (rendering) and not small for 50mm lens.
Konica, no idea how it renders. I still have no idea what exactly micro contrast is, either.
But. The lens which was rendering something special on micro level of the image was Elmar-M 50 2.8. Less of it was with Cron Collapsible. To me. Both are sharp of course. Most 50mm are sharp, maybe some exotics like Heliar 50/2, but even 9$ Industar 69 l/d is sharp.
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Flickr..Maybe it's a good idea or maybe not. Sometimes I see it in the forum photos taken with a great camera and expensive lens I want to cry (sorry, but I will do better by my iphone). I am not an amateur. I'm just looking for the right and not expensive tool.
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Old 01-20-2019   #14
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Cosina/Voigtländer Color-Skopar 50mm f/2.5. Great optics and great build quality. Usable on both LTM and M. Perfect ergonomics.

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Content in your photos is WAY more important then which lens you choose. If cost is about equal, flip a coin!
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Old 01-20-2019   #16
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Content in your photos is WAY more important then which lens you choose. If cost is about equal, flip a coin!
Yes -you're right!
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Old 01-20-2019   #17
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I vote hexanon. Something different. I find the planar too sharp.
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Old 01-20-2019   #18
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I love the size and ergos of the Color Skopar 2.5. I have to develop a few rolls from it still, but the image thread from this forum made me get it. Probably going to be my daily 50 in the summer.
I really love the Collapsible Cron for BW though. Probably my favorite 50
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Old 01-20-2019   #19
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I had the M-Hexanon for several years when I had the Konica Hexar RF, and I recently got the Planar and Color Skopar.

I agree with karlin. The Planar has more contrast than the M-Hexanon. I like the M-Hexanon’s bokeh a little more (seems to be smoother), and the aperture and focus rings have a higher quality feel. But the Planar comes in silver and has a nice hood. The Color Skopar is not made as nicely (terrible aperture ring and soft paint on the focusing tab of the silver version), but has gentler contrast and the smoothest bokeh of them all. Cool hood, too.
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Old 01-20-2019   #20
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Hmmm, another factor is how big are you going to print? Enlarging to 12" x 8" and no bigger is fairly rare (yes, I know but this is the internet) and so I think almost any of them will do. Of course. for slide film it's another matter but if you don't stand a foot away from the screen it's debatable...

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Old 01-20-2019   #21
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You can't really go wrong with the Planar. Sharper than the Hexanon (at least compared to the one I've tested), handles well, excellent flare resistance and I like the colors. Definitely not a low contrast lens though.

Collapsible Summicron is nice if you like a low contrast look. Many of these are in bad shape nowadays, really soft glass that scratches easily. Not very resistant to flare. I did not like the handling with the infinity lock.
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Another "reasonable price with good performance" option would be the CV Nokton 50/1.5. My copy had some wonky focus shift so it was returned, but lots of people compare it favorably to the non-ASPH Summilux.
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Old 01-20-2019   #23
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options?

There are many amazingly good 50mm RF lenses available. Among the lenses that I have used quite a lot and that I really like :

Rigid Summicron 50/2 M
Jupiter-3 50/1.5 ltm
Zeiss Sonnar 50/1.5 50/2 ltm
Konica 50/2.2 ltm
CV Heliar 50/3.5 50/2 ltm, M
Voigtlaender 50/1.5 Nokton, (new to me) 50/2 Ultron (for the Prominent) with M adapter
Canon 50/1.5 50/1.4 ltm
CV 50/1.1 50/1.5 ltm
Zeiss 45/2 for G1/G2 adapted to M
Pentax-M 50/1.4 adapted to M

These come to mind right now. There exist others such as the Nikon 50/1.4 Millenium, say.

Do not box your choices in. There are many options available.
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for which camera body??
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for which camera body??

M6 +35 mm Color Scopar
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Old 01-20-2019   #26
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summicron 50 rigid, color skopar 50 2.5 is a real gem. 50 elmar
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+1 for the Hexanon. The Planar can be too perfect. I'm a Konishiroku apologist though and love just about everything they have done. Once you get your hands on a UC Hexanon, you will never go back. Selling mine was one of the worst photo decisions I ever made.

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At the moment on tle local market the cheapest is Nocton 50mm f/1.5. uff
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the nokton is a great lens. It's my everyday 50. It beat out my rigid summicron and I find it a better lens than the planar.
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We rarely play ball and stick with your particular question. And not should we. Print size was a good question as that should affect the decision.

To me light and compact would matter a lot. I’d go with Erik’s suggestion of the Color Skopar 2.5. And for compactness I’d also look at a second-hand Summarit 2.5.
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Is it for color or bw prints?
On bw prints Nokton was nice. Above Planar and Rigid to now Crons.
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Is it for color or bw prints?
On bw prints Nokton was nice. Above Planar and Rigid to now Crons.
I was wondering when someone would ask. Being a b&w shooter would make my decision a bit easier.
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Is it for color or bw prints?
On bw prints Nokton was nice. Above Planar and Rigid to now Crons.
Only for bw prints from darkroom:-)
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it's only a matter of time before people start posting samples. But before that I would seriously recommend you to take a look at the Nokton 50 F1.5 thread.

The lens has great build, size isn't too bad. Sharpness and contrast are just right for someone looking for a classic look with a modern edge. Plus it has a speed advantage over the planar and hexanon.

https://rangefinderforum.com/forums/...51#post2850651
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Old 01-21-2019   #35
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This is the end. I just bought Nokton 50 F1.5 ($ 476). Thanks
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All were great choices but it’s aiways good to just buy and go out to photograph.
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Nice lens! I have a chrome one but at the moment it’s been displaced by my Sonnar 1.5. Really wouldn’t have gone wrong with any of them. I haven’t really used a “bad” 50 so far for the Leica. They are just different. I bet you get more though! Have fun and shoot away!
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I'd say it's a good choice. And a great price as well.
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Is there some reason besides cost that you don't include a Summicron-M 50mm in your list?

I have had a Color Skopar 50mm for some time, had a Nokton 50/1.5, sold the latter, tried the Planar 50, and sold that to go back to the Summicron-M 50 like I had twenty years ago (but in the current six-bit coded mount). It's the best performer of the bunch and I got it second hand for $1300. Worth every penny.

The Color Skopar is my second favorite.
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The Color Skopar is my second favorite. [/quote]


No problem. I bought to have 50 mm, I will buy Skopar in the summer. (Skopar was at the same price but in France)
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