Old 01-22-2019   #81
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I'm a big fan of my Ricoh GR1V, but I'm kind of waiting for it eventually to give out on me. Nonetheless, it's a great little camera with a 28mm lens and it's tiny!
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Old 01-22-2019   #82
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Of the pure point-n-shooters I had (not counting the Olympus XA, which is a rangefinder), and I've had my share -- went through another "phase" donchya know -- the Ricoh FFs, Nikon L35AF, Yashica T3... Drum roll please??? The winner is?

1. Pentax PC35AF (the NON-M version, which has a motorized film advance/rewind). Why. Unlike most point-n-shooters (that don't cost a bundle -- the Contax, the Nikon Ti etc.) this one is built rock solid of metal. ALSO it has a cracking 35/2.8 Pentax lens, accurate auto focus, YOU are control of the flash AND -- here's the big one... It is manual wind. MANUAL WIND, which means...

- it doesn't sound like coffee grinder when the film advances so it can actually be used for street photography and candids. (Whisper silent shutter...)

- NO motors to eventually die.

The Pentax PC35AF is a professional point-n-shooter. It does have one slight niggle. It uses a round thumb wheel to advance the film -- a concession to keep the size down. This is also the smallest (and heaviest) of the point-n-shooters listed.
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2. Nikon L35AF -- same as above. 35/2.8. You control the flash, sadly has motor-driven film advance and rewind. However, it doesn't automatically rewind when a roll is finished, you have to flick a switch. Sonnar (not Tessar lens design -- but I couldn't see a difference. Truth be told I thought the Pentax lens was better). Also this lens vignettes. Filter threads! Very cool design -- quite Leica-like but made of pure plastic, unlike the Pentax. Has backlight adjustment button. Mine was $1.00 with a broken battery door, which I fixed. These are cheap enough and it's such a coo' camera that I'll live with the motor.

3. Konica C35 AF and AF2. This camera is of note as it was the first mass produced AF camera. Little difference between the AF and AF2 versions. Ticks all the boxes (see list below). Has an old school film advance. (The Pentax has a thumb wheel like disposable cameras...) Has a 38mm/2.8 instead of a 35mm. Built like crap but takes nice pics. Yashica (and Minolta iirc) made similar ones but they're harder to find. This is the cheapest option -- Konica sold a boatload of these things. Built like crap but takes nice pics.

For point-n-shoots I have come to insist on the following:
1. An f2.8 lens
2. A MANUAL film advance and rewind (Nikon the exception here).
3. YOU control when the flash goes off.
4. CHEAP (I DO NOT trust the electronics -- especially the motors, in these things. The electronics WILL die. The motors WILL die. These things are ancient by now...)

This drastically limits your selection. Drastically. The Pentax feels like a "real" camera not a piece of crap. "Somewhat" hard to find but not outrageously priced (at least mine didn't cost too much $40-ish I think I paid but that was years ago...)

If it doesn't tick the boxes above? Keep'em. Keep'em all. These are actually great little cameras. The Pentax is outstanding, imo. But the cheap Konica will surprise you. The Nikon is cool looking but doesn't live up to the "Pikaichi" hype.
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Old 01-22-2019   #83
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Did I mention of all the point-n-shoots to get, The Pentax PC35AF is... hands down, bar none, THE one? Again -- the NON-M version of the camera only!
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Old 01-22-2019   #84
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PC35AF is a nice little camera.

They seem to pop up at my local thrift shops every so often.

Whats sweet is you can add the motor winder if you want! It adds a bit of grip as well..

But it looks like someone with a following found it just as nice. Prices are on the up with some asking 99$ or more.\

I wouldn't pay more than 20$ for one with the winder myself.
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No Nikon L35AF has manual wind.
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Old 01-22-2019   #86
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Pentax ESPIO 24EW is my zoom choice for the 24-105mm range.
Olympus Stylus Epic for single focal length usage.
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FUJI Klasse S, great camera, wonderful lens and the electronics are relatively new. It can also focus down to 40cm so you still get some bokeh. I got mine for a decent price, it is getting more and more expensive now, but I still believe it is a better camera and better buy than the contax.

If your are on a budget, get a Pentax PC35, I sold my contax T2 after shooting two rolls with PC35.
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Rollei 35

Any of the Rollei 35 cameras because once I get a meter reading I set it at f8 or f11 and if I set infinity at the f stop on the scale I essentially have a point and shoot camera from around 10 feet to infinity that has a wicked sharp lens, plus it is super durable, super compact, and does not rely on any electronics to take pictures. A CLA every 20 years or so and you have a great point and shoot for life.
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Old 01-23-2019   #89
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The Contax TVS III. Great image quality in a very small package.



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I have a Fuji Natura Black sitting on my shelf that I purchased new around 12-13 years ago. It's been my vacation camera ever since (when I don't take along a bigger camera). Fantastic 24/1.9 lens and does really well with B&W film. I should stick a new battery in mine and make sure it still works.
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I really want to try a Ricoh MF-1

Affordable compared to GR1 without as many problems but a slower 30mm lens larger body and awkward design. Count me in!

All this PC35AF talk has me itching to go on a thrift hunt!
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I have the later One Touch version. The motor is a bit loud but has a good lens. As for older 80s 90s era film p&s cameras itís the one I grab.
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I really want to try a Ricoh MF-1

Affordable compared to GR1 without as many problems but a slower 30mm lens larger body and awkward design. Count me in!

All this PC35AF talk has me itching to go on a thrift hunt!
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If you get one or three, I can help you with the disassembly/reassembly. Ive had three of them apart about eight times by now.
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I really like my Nikon 28Ti, though it is LOUD!
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If you get one or three, I can help you with the disassembly/reassembly. Ive had three of them apart about eight times by now.
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PC35AF I assume?

So I should buy one if I see one!

Ever try to paint one!?
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PC35AF I assume?

So I should buy one if I see one!

Ever try to paint one!?
Yeah, the Pentax. Haven't thought about painting one but I love the Konica Tomato.
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PC35AF is sweet little camera, but it beeps every time it needs to use flash (audible low light warning) I just couldn't get use to it so I opened the thing and disconnected tiny speaker inside, now it's almost silent camera
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Is this the one? I left the price sticker on to make a point about something; I forget what...





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Any of the Rollei 35 cameras because once I get a meter reading I set it at f8 or f11 and if I set infinity at the f stop on the scale I essentially have a point and shoot camera from around 10 feet to infinity that has a wicked sharp lens, plus it is super durable, super compact, and does not rely on any electronics to take pictures. A CLA every 20 years or so and you have a great point and shoot for life.

I dunno about super durable. They dent like tin cans (try to find one w/o dents ), the black paint wears poorly, and most need a shutter overhaul/service because for some reason below 1/30 sec they lose timing.

Wanted to buy one, gave up after going through three 'mint, perfect condition' ones with no luck.
The lens is most excellent, the light meter is most crappy - it does not operate below EV8 so pretty much it only reads in good light. I'm better at that just estimating..
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David, post pics taken with this! For some reason I now have an affinity to cheap P&S cameras.
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non M version is smaller and has manual film winding (there was optional add-on motor-wind attachment available too) In the past 6 years I never came across any cameras in local charity shops, but they do sell them online a lot these days.

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David, post pics taken with this! For some reason I now have an affinity to cheap P&S cameras.
I'll post some images with my PC35AF when I develop and scan them. Should be by March, definitely by April. I have four or five rolls on-deck to develop from the following:
Nikon L35AF, Pentax PC35AF, Pentax IQZoom 140, Oly XA, Nikonos V, and about 200 more I have just not bothered to process through the years due to time constraints, lack of space, moving, etc. Oh yeah, I need to also rebuild my RAID5 array in order to have any space to scan to.
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David, post pics taken with this! For some reason I now have an affinity to cheap P&S cameras.

Hi,

I spent a lot of time last night looking for some or even one but can't identify any as such. There's nothing more I can do about it, alas, as it was in a few I gave to charity shops just before Christmas as "starters" for others to ensure we keep film in production. ("Easy come, easy go" being the rationale.)

BTW, the Pentax is a typical "large compact P&S" from the first batch that were produced once AF and fully-auto started appearing in the shops. There's lots that are similar made by every maker in Japan...

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