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Below 7 2 0.65%
7 to 13 1 0.33%
14 to 20 4 1.31%
21 to 27 14 4.58%
28 to 34 29 9.48%
35 to 41 23 7.52%
42 to 48 27 8.82%
49 to 55 36 11.76%
56 to 62 58 18.95%
63 to 69 58 18.95%
70 to 76 35 11.44%
77 to 83 16 5.23%
84 to 90 2 0.65%
91 and up 1 0.33%
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Old 01-30-2019   #1
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This poll is designed to make room for very youngest RFF members, as well as us borderline superannuated types. If you are in one of the youngest groups, get mom or dad to help, if you need to, and tell us about your photo interests!
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Why not have the poll with decade of birth rather than age? That way it will stay up to date...
just citing this from the poll created yesterday

i had hoped that an improved poll might take this into account
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just citing this from the poll created yesterday

i had hoped that an improved poll might take this into account
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just citing this from the poll created yesterday

i had hoped that an improved poll might take this into account
The "data" would be misleading. Someone born in 1970 today is of a certain age, but if someone 10 years later also clicks on 1970 as birth year, then that person is 10 years older than the previous person. How would you distinguish between them?
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The "data" would be misleading. Someone born in 1970 today is of a certain age, but if someone 10 years later also clicks on 1970 as birth year, then that person is 10 years older than the previous person. How would you distinguish between them?
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just citing this from the poll created yesterday

i had hoped that an improved poll might take this into account
Well, I was born at the very beginning of my first decade...I'm only guessing but I'm pretty sure that most of us were.

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LOL, (in reference to the gender poll) you mean there's no option for "other", "not sure", "none of your business", "why does it matter" etc.
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The "data" would be misleading. Someone born in 1970 today is of a certain age, but if someone 10 years later also clicks on 1970 as birth year, then that person is 10 years older than the previous person. How would you distinguish between them?

You're mistaken, that's what happens when people give their ages. If two persons who are 41 today take the poll ten years apart, they'll register in different cohorts even though they're the same age. Year of birth doesn't change and delivers the correct age no matter when data is collected or age is calculated.
Doesn't matter though because the poll should be closed after short time anyway. It would be better to have a snapshot of the age structure at one point than something distorted by new members coming in or made obsolete by members leaving during the poll.
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You're mistaken,
Errrm, I guess you were misunderstanding what Raid was insinuating; btw: Raid is a well known statistics professor

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that's what happens when people give their ages. If two persons who are 41 today take the poll ten years apart, they'll register in different cohorts even though they're the same age. Year of birth doesn't change and delivers the correct age no matter when data is collected or age is calculated.
Doesn't matter though because the poll should be closed after short time anyway. It would be better to have a snapshot of the age structure at one point than something distorted by new members coming in or made obsolete by members leaving during the poll.
-- I suppose quite that was what Raid was insinuating
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Errrm, I guess you were misunderstanding what Raid was insinuating; btw: Raid is a well known statistics professor

-- I suppose quite that was what Raid was insinuating
I suppose I must have misunderstood him then. The best of their fields have brain farts like the rest of us; my apologies, Raid, is this wasn't one
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Here we go, guaranteed to offend everyone:

1) too young to know better, too arrogant to know it
2) balding but still wearing skinny pants
3) can't handhold 1/8 anymore
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Im probably on the younger side here, studying photography in london.

I shoot a bit of everything: Landscape, Fashion, Portrait and more recently for Uni am following a band around the country and documenting their travels. Using a Nikon F2 and Hasselblad 500cm.

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While I suspect that the median age of the members of this group is biased in favor of a much older group that a true cross-section of photographers, particularly film users, I am sad to see the near non-existent population of the age group prior to middle age. I wonder if this is the sign of future times for camera-based non-commercial photography.
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This didnít help me one bit Iím still the same age as the other poll.
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You're mistaken, that's what happens when people give their ages. If two persons who are 41 today take the poll ten years apart, they'll register in different cohorts even though they're the same age. Year of birth doesn't change and delivers the correct age no matter when data is collected or age is calculated.
Doesn't matter though because the poll should be closed after short time anyway. It would be better to have a snapshot of the age structure at one point than something distorted by new members coming in or made obsolete by members leaving during the poll.
Exactly! That's why I closed the poll after 100 days. That's enough time to get a representative sample, without distorting the data.
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Okay, here is the big problem with any of these polls: the information is voluntarily submitted. You will never get everyone to take the poll no matter what you try. It's better to glean the statistic you want from the Member Registry files, that is if the birthday stat is correct.

As I recall, there was a major overhaul of the database some years ago, and the Calendar no longer reflects the birth dates of all the members, only those who had registered before the overhaul.

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Okay, here is the big problem with any of these polls: the information is voluntarily submitted. You will never get everyone to take the poll no matter what you try. It's better to glean the statistic you want from the Member Registry files, that is if the birthday stat is correct.

As I recall, there was a major overhaul of the database some years ago, and the Calendar no longer reflects the birth dates of all the members, only those who had registered before the overhaul.

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Yes, an issue with any statistical effort is whether you have a representative sample. In this case, the question would be whether the age distribution of subjects who bother to take the poll, is representative of the forum membership. If it isn't, that would bias the sample. However, unless there is some reason to think people in different age groups would be more or less inclined to respond--and I don't think there is--then the sample is representative. And so far, it looks like it is shaping up to be distribution that appears reasonably normal, which is a good sign that things are OK. Besides, what else can I do with all that statistical training they give you in psychology grad school?
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Okay, here is the big problem with any of these polls: the information is voluntarily submitted. You will never get everyone to take the poll no matter what you try. It's better to glean the statistic you want from the Member Registry files, that is if the birthday stat is correct.

As I recall, there was a major overhaul of the database some years ago, and the Calendar no longer reflects the birth dates of all the members, only those who had registered before the overhaul.

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I'm cool with removing my birthday. Personal information needs to be protected.

A while back during the Credit Crisis I was flush with cash and made a few luxury purchases using a credit card. I paid the balance off right away, and as a result was "A" listed and was mistaken as a powerful and influential person.

In one year I was invited to meet with Mayor Bloomberg 4 times. He is the shortest Billionair I ever met. Unlike the other men who wore three piece suits I wore a Hawian shirt and could of been mistaken as a surfer. I have a photograph of me and Mike Bloomberg on the porch of Gracie Mansion.

Somehow I got a free subscription to Forbes, just in case I wanted to buy an Island or some small country or a private plane. I was invited to join "The Hudson Society" where I could meet heads of state, Prime Ministers, Generals, and meet and socialize with wealthy people.

My worries are that I might be kidnapped, and no one would pay the ransome. LOL.

I know enough that cell phones are not secure, and data breaches and identity theft will only increase. The Internet and clouds are not secure as you think.

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I suspect that our real age is in our minds. I'm old, but I feel young.


Cal, you're dead right about data security. The trade in personal data is now a multi million dollar industry.
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I suspect that our real age is in our minds. I'm old, but I feel young.


Cal, you're dead right about data security. The trade in personal data is now a multi million dollar industry.
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My boss at a National Lab was a Ham Radio nerd, and one day he played a recording of a cell phone call he intercepted.

Pretty much a married woman and a married man were caught having phone sex by my boss. The guy was "coaching" the woman.

I asked for my boss to play it again because the woman was a screamer.

Most people don'y know or realize that when using a cell phone that you basically are broadcasting and that anyone can intercept your communication. For security reasons I like land lines better.

You can't make this stuff up. LOL.

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Keith’s was better!

Is this mental or physical age? I can’t find an appropriate category for myself

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I know, and no one in the 7 to 13 range, yet. So it's not a perfect bell curve; but it is the reality, as of this moment. As the N increases (more people participating), it will be interesting to see how it shapes up.
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70% of the people who responded are 49 and over! I was wondering why discussions about lenses were more likely to be about glasses.
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older than the trees but younger than the moon...

when i am flirting with some girls i am perpetually 32...

when i am with my wife i am a middle-aged man...
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I'm very pleased with the poll. It makes sense: A sharp increase in members close to, and of, retirement age. More money and more time. Makes sense. I'm just a little surprised that, even though there are two children under seven, there is nobody in the seven to thirteen group! What! NO photographers in that range? I had already had a couple of brownies and an Ansco box camera by then! Anybody remember Ansco, and what it stands for? I do!
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I remember Ansco cameras, but I never knew what the name stood for.

Ansco later became GAF, right?
(I really liked GAF 64 film for fall colors.)

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Hey I have two Ansco cameras an Autoset and an Anscoset...
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I'm very pleased with the poll. It makes sense: A sharp increase in members close to, and of, retirement age. More money and more time. Makes sense.
Hmmm, retirement in The Netherlands is from 67. It used to be 65, but recently the age is changed. I am a victim of that, I have to work two full years longer than originally planned. I will be 65 next september.

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Hmmm, retirement in The Netherlands is from 67. It used to be 65, but recently the age is changed. I am a victim of that, I have to work two full years longer than originally planned. I will be 65 next september.

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Phil,

My apologies for being a baby-boomer. We kinda got more than our fair share of opportunities and chances for prosperity.

Younger generations are less advantaged.

Recently Saturday Night Live had a funny skit. Perhaps only funny if you are a baby-boomer though. The skit involved a game show that pitted the baby-boomers against younger generations. Obviously the younger generations were the underdogs and the playing field was not level.

Also know that here in the U.S. that you are not alone, and it is said that 2/3rds of Americans can't retire because they have not saved enough or accumulated enough wealth.

Equally as sad only 1/3rd of Americans can afford to retire.

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Also know that here in the U.S. that you are not alone, and it is said that 2/3rds of Americans can't retire because they have not saved enough or accumulated enough wealth.

Equally as sad only 1/3rd of Americans can afford to retire.
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With an n of 230, there is still no one in the 7 to 13 age interval, yet two under 7! Surprising!
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With an n of 230, there is still no one in the 7 to 13 age interval, yet two under 7! Surprising!
Surprising, but I think that at that age they are more interested in the Social sites like Instagram than to take part in a forum.

Just my idea...

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It looks like two thirds of us are over 50. It makes sense; with kids out of college you can now afford a Leica.
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