Macro on the M8?? Impossible Sir!!!
Old 03-27-2007   #1
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Thumbs up Macro on the M8?? Impossible Sir!!!











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Truly beautiful pictures! Don't keep us in suspense - how did you do it?

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VisoflexIII, no bellows. The simplest lenses work best. 50/2.8 Elmar M and 4.0-135, just into the Viso mount. All are handheld with natural light, no flash.
DNG conversion in C1LE, PSE5 for crop and websharpening.No other post-processing at all. The "darkroom" work took me just six minutes. The shooting rate, btw was close to 50%, more than I get on my Canon 10D with dedicated macrolens and ringflash. This is miles better.
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I am clueless about the VisoFlex. What constitues a full system, how does it work, and how much should one look to pay for a used one?

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That asks for a book rather than a post.
1. Al Visoflexes are used, it is not a current product.
2.The only Visoflex that works on the M8 is the III
3. Prices are all over the place, I got mine for free with a couple of lenses, Ive seen them on stealbay for 300$, my dealer has a cupboard full of them and probably would give you three if you kissed his wife for him.
4. The most basic setup is the one I used above, just put your lens on the Visoflex.
5. The rest I'll cover later.
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Old 03-27-2007   #6
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Very nice jaapv ... I'm not a big fan of macro flower shots but those are beautiful. Good use of the M8!
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Indeeed, the images are impressive, Jaap!
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Who is your dealer Jaap? And would you rather kiss his wife than pay for a Visoflex?

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Since the M8 has a LCD screen, you are looking through the lens, right? You could just screw a closeup lens on the Summicron (or whatever) and focus and compose using this screen. No?
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Err. No, Frank. The LCD is for reviewing and menus only. It is a rangefinder camera Seriously, the cramped space in th M8 body leaves no room to provide for the cooling of the sensor, which is a real issue for larger sensors. Even the Canon 1DIII which is the first large-sensor camera to offer live preview with ample space in the body to provide for cooling fins and such, switches the feature off after a limited time just for this reason. If you go to astronomically used sensors, where exposure can run into hours, liquid nitrogen is used to keep sensor temparatures down.
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Thanks Jaap! Just goes to show that you can learn something new every day. I assumed that the M8 LCD screen acts like my digi cam's screen with live viewing.
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Jaap, stunning!! I have a viso III, a 135mm and a 90mm elmarit, but no M8. Maybe I just start trying this with a film M. So I leave the focusing unit of the 135 and the 90mm on I guess?

I think I'm going to find your dealer. He's living in Hellevoetsluis also??
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Jaap, stunning!! I have a viso III, a 135mm and a 90mm elmarit, but no M8. Maybe I just start trying this with a film M. So I leave the focusing unit of the 135 and the 90mm on I guess?

I think I'm going to find your dealer. He's living in Hellevoetsluis also??
Camera Express had at least three Viso III's for sale, I noticed today.
You'll have to wipe my drool off the display case.Lots of rings and other Viso accessories... He has good amount of very interesting used M and R stuff, half of it not even displayed. I noticed a couple of CL boxes, suggesting mint CL's inside. Two Leica 200 mm viewfinders, an old turret viewfinder, etc.An A+ SL2, a demo R 80-190APO vario, loads of R and M bodies. Numbers of other lenses, A Leica treasure house...
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Stunning Jap. These images show the strength of the M8's IQ as compared to other digital cameras as well as any I can imagine. First rate and a significant cut above I'd say.
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you pervert! let the ladybugs multiply in peace!!

ah, nice shots, yes...but that ugly magenta problem shows up on some of the images
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you pervert! let the ladybugs multiply in peace!!

ah, nice shots, yes...but that ugly magenta problem shows up on some of the images
Strictly IR filter, me
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thanks jaapv ...simple question for a Viso-logist
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thanks jaapv ...simple question for a Viso-logist

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Camera Express had at least three Viso III's for sale, I noticed today.
You'll have to wipe my drool off the display case.Lots of rings and other Viso accessories... He has good amount of very interesting used M and R stuff, half of it not even displayed. I noticed a couple of CL boxes, suggesting mint CL's inside. Two Leica 200 mm viewfinders, an old turret viewfinder, etc.An A+ SL2, a demo R 80-190APO vario, loads of R and M bodies. Numbers of other lenses, A Leica treasure house...
I take it that Camera Express is in the Netherlands
I could not locate them on the Internet

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That is correct. If you want something specific, you'll have to mail/call them. A lot of their interesting used stuff is not on their new internet site (yet)
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Those shots made me sneeze! Seriously, the US east coast is getting some pollen from Holland now.. and it's in my nose!
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omigod...visomadness rampant again, we are in for a bumpy ride!

Was it Bjork that recorded as track based solely on viso code names?

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Am I missing something? Does the MEM90/4 not work? I know it may not give greater than 1:1 magnification, but surely taht's pretty good for a rangefinder?

(ps. Wouldn't the VLux be a better/easier option for macros?)
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(ps. Wouldn't the VLux be a better/easier option for macros?)
It would- if it had a 1.33 crop sensor and the pictorial quality of the M8 - and if I owned one....
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The MEM90/4 does indeed work with the macro adapter; I am fortunate to own it. My understanding is that the highest ratio attainable with this combination is 1:3. I am wondering if this lens can be used on the visoflex III as well with or without a bellows to achieve higher magnifications.

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The MEM90/4 does indeed work with the macro adapter; I am fortunate to own it. My understanding is that the highest ratio attainable with this combination is 1:3. I am wondering if this lens can be used on the visoflex III as well with or without a bellows to achieve higher magnifications.
I'm sure it can be used like that to good effect.
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I'm sure it can be used like that to good effect.
You quite right. I used a visoflex III with my mem 90 to achieve approximately 1:1 magnification. I am going to shop for a bellows now.
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