Ricoh GRII?
Old 05-20-2015   #1
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Ricoh GRII?

Seems like Ricoh GRII might be coming soon.
Do you think it would be a 28mm like always, 35mm, 50mm or a zoom?

http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/rico...is-coming-soon

I love my GR 28mm and I'm hoping for a 50mm . It would be a Great 28/50 combo
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Old 05-20-2015   #2
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GR series has been 28mm single focal length as kind of a tradition other than the GR21 in the film days. Although I am a fan of 35-50mm range, it will be weird to see GR in that focal length. It just doesn't fall into GR philosophy IMHO.

Either way, I love my GR and will likely get GR "6" when it comes out, keeping the GR, giving it to my wife.
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Old 05-20-2015   #3
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They also made a 40 fov adapter for one of the film versions didn't they? I would love to c them do a 40fov adapter or a gr w/ this focal length myself...but right now I doubt it.

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There is also a crop mode to achieve 35mm and 50mm in the GR, at the expense of resolution. A real 40mm f2 would be great.
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Old 05-20-2015   #5
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I use the 35 crop mode a lot.. The other one rare since there it leaves very little pixel info left. The 40 to 50 ish crop mode would be more useful when they do a 24mp sensor, which maybe what this new announcement is all about. But I would prefer something that is a 40ish perspective in real glass as well..

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Nice!!!
Old 05-20-2015   #7
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Nice!!!

Looking forward to this! Just got the GR a month ago & I'm hooked.
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Old 05-20-2015   #8
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It will be 28mm. They wouldn't change that at this point. If you don't want 28mm, you don't buy the GR (or you deal with clumsy add ons or crop modes). The crop mode for 35mm makes the sensor similar in size to m43 (though a different aspect ratio). Great news though since the GR is the only pocket digital I like anymore.
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Old 05-20-2015   #9
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I really don't know how they would improve this camera other than putting a updated higher MP sensor in it.
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Old 05-20-2015   #10
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Well maybe make it all weather. But that would entail changing the retractable lens design
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Old 05-20-2015   #11
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Found some old GR II rumor:

Upgraded sensor, but still APS-C
Redesigned lens with better focusing
Touch screen
Wi-Fi
New grip design


http://photorumors.com/2015/02/05/ru...a-replacement/
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Old 05-20-2015   #12
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Damn, I really need to get shooting my GR more
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Old 05-21-2015   #13
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Excited for this camera...
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Old 05-21-2015   #14
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A real 40mm f2 would be great.
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Well maybe make it all weather.

Combined you two are describing my dream camera! A digital Muji II! Maybe Panasonic will make a large sensor tough camera with their 20/1.7 design -- that would render similar to a 40/3.4 in full-frame.
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Old 05-21-2015   #15
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A real 40mm f2 would be great.[/quote]

Amen, Zuik. Plunk that lens on and pre-order one for me.
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Old 05-21-2015   #16
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I had GRDIII in the past and love the UI, feel in hand and compactness. But I am just not 28-only user it seems ...
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Old 05-21-2015   #17
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I hope they don't mess around with the UI and control layout. Especially if they are thinking of putting in a touch screen
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• Wi-Fi
GR has Eye-Fi UI and I use mobile transfer all the time. Hoping Ricoh will implement a good Wi-Fi with maybe RAW transfer as well.

• Battery
I actually like USB charging they put in GR. Including the dedicated charger would be nice though. Battery life could be a bit better but probably that's because I use Eye-Fi all the time. Maybe if Wi-Fi function becomes built-in and the power management will make the battery life impact to a minimum.

• 40mm tele-converter
28mm EFOV single focal length is GR's tradition. A tele-converter to make it 40mm EFOV would be nice.

• GR21
Repeating the history of film GR, maybe it's time to release GR21 with 21 EFOV lens? (with 18mm or 15mm wide-angle converter and 28 or 35mm tele-converter?)
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Old 05-21-2015   #19
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• GR21
Repeating the history of film GR, maybe it's time to release GR21 with 21 EFOV lens?
This would be a great thing...
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Old 05-21-2015   #20
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I'm going to guess :

(+)
24 Mpixels
IS
Pixel shift hyper resolution
WiFi
Limited weather/dust sealing improvements.

(-)
No tilt LCD ( would add too bulk )
No EVF
No fast lens ( would add bulk )
No to 21mm or 40mm lens ( 40mm would be especially nice )
No to monochrome
Lousy video ( not really care anyway )

I started with the GR1 and went on to buy every GRD model and GR over the years - so the chances are I will probably fall in line again.
But the GR, as it is, is really rather good - I don't know why I need to upgrade.
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Old 05-21-2015   #21
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If the GRII would get IS like the Olympus has in their E-M5II than it would definitely be worth it as would be some sort of weather sealing.
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Old 05-21-2015   #22
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• Battery
I actually like USB charging they put in GR. Including the dedicated charger would be nice though.

I'd like them to implement a micro-USB port rather than whatever plug they currently use.
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Old 05-21-2015   #23
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All I would care to see is dust/weather sealing. The GR/GX series are notorious for letting dust get in.
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Old 05-21-2015   #24
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I'd like them to implement a micro-USB port rather than whatever plug they currently use.

It's a USB "micro A" I believe. I don't mind this. The Xpro1 and X100 also use it.
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I'd like them to implement a micro-USB port rather than whatever plug they currently use.
Ditto. I happened to have a few extra cables from old Fuji and Sennheiser headphones using same plug, but regular micro USB would be great. (or maybe going USB C??)


My fantasy GR would be

• Monochrome sensor with uber good highlight preservation. (I said "fantasy"!)
• 21mm and 40mm converters and filter system without adapter tube a la GR1v.
• Drop mode dial, replace it with aperture and/or exp comp dial.

Call it GRv.
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Old 05-21-2015   #26
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I'd love to see Wi-Fi, Stabilization, and better video.

Sure, most GR users rarely shoot video, but why not make it good? The sensor can certainly do it, and the current video mode is terrible.

A touchscreen would be useful even if its only for quick selection of AF point.
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Old 05-24-2015   #27
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OVF (Instead of popup flash) ?
Better quality in low light?
Better AF?
More MP?
23mm lens (for 35mm FF eq. FOV) ?

-Video would be great but 28mm is very limiting. Unless they do 35mm .

-Stabilization would be awesome but I doubt there is any space left in there, especially after they implement the OVF .

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Old 05-24-2015   #28
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If the GRII would get IS like the Olympus has in their E-M5II than it would definitely be worth it as would be some sort of weather sealing.
Ditto. And better lowlight AF.

I'm not looking for a larger sensor; when I use the GR I generally need/want the depth of field from the 18mm lens. I have other cameras for shallow focus, and I don't make that many really large prints.
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Old 06-05-2015   #29
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Well, here's a photo:

http://photorumors.com/2015/06/04/fi...ra/#more-72308
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Old 06-05-2015   #30
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I just wish it to be sealed.
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Old 06-05-2015   #31
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Based on the photo, looks to me like an articulated screen!
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Old 06-05-2015   #32
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I am guessing the tilt LCD will increase the depth of the camera body.
As much as I liked the GR, I doubt I will spend again the same amount of money for an updated sensor and a tilt screen.
Same lens. Great optical quality, but 2.8 is limiting and no OIS.
No MF ring. How many are actually using the lens adapter vs a potential MF ring with preset distances? Snap focus is a great idea but it gave me too many blurred shots when trying to use it.
I just hope the have a lower starting price for the sake of the camera, cause $800 is too much for too many.
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Old 06-05-2015   #33
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I find naming confusing ebcause GRDII already have been released. Probably introducing index to distinct APS-C models from small sensor models would be not bad idea.
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I wonder if the "slightly humped" top means a socket for a pluggable EVF? How about a poppable EVF ŕ la RX100 Mk.III???
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Hmmm. Not a big fan of that hump aesthetically but I guess we just have to wait and see.
I really don't want articulated screen that will make the camera thicker. If that's a part of EVF implementation, then that's great.
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phooey. no evf!
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I think the new GRII will have a selfie screen and wifi. I'd really love it to have a 23mm lens (35mm equivalent on APS-C).

I adore my GR, but I find myself reaching for my much-maligned EOS-M lately, because it's compact and has a 22mm f2 lens. It's my digital Contax T3, but I wish it had a popup flash.
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I hope this isn't right:

http://www.cameraegg.org/ricoh-gr-ii-image-leaked/

Specs:

Same 16.2MP APS-C sensor as Ricoh GR
Same 18.3mm f/2.8 Lens as Ricoh GR
New hot shoe
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I can't see the bother, financially or technically, why a manufacturer would do this to a well-established line ... unless it is a substantial enough of a change ... (ie) socketable EVF is my bet. RICOH has had at least two variants already, why not an improved (OLED?) third version?
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I agree Jeff... if true, why would anyone buy one over the current version?
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