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Old 05-19-2018   #1
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x100F as system

Any working photographers out there who use a couple of X100F cameras, with the add-on optics for wider and longer focal lengths, as a complete system for editorial work? Considering this kit as a lightweight option to the usual Fuji camera system which I already have.
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Old 05-20-2018   #2
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Any working photographers out there who use a couple of X100F cameras, with the add-on optics for wider and longer focal lengths, as a complete system for editorial work? Considering this kit as a lightweight option to the usual Fuji camera system which I already have.
Not a terrible idea. One positive would be that you wouldn't have to worry about dust on the sensor from changing lenses.
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Old 05-20-2018   #3
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I have a pair of X100 cameras and I also occasionally use the 50mm and 28mm equivalent conversion lenses. But I don't do paid work with them and the cameras are the X100S models, not the F.

Opinion? The conversion lenses are pretty nice. Optically, I've decided you do lose a little with them but the loss may be acceptable given the convenience. Downsides? A couple. For the older X100 models, I have to set the menu for using the conversion lenses but I think the X100F does that for you with the newest model conversion lenses. For me the biggest downside is how the conversion lenses increase the size of the X100 bodies. Not so much the 28mm lens but the 50mm lens is pretty big. I originally bought the conversion lenses last year to put together a travel outfit but, as luck would have it, I haven't been able to do much traveling since. I've also decided the main reason I like the X100S so much is the simplicity and size. Adding conversion lenses diminishes my use of the camera a bit. I can carry an X-Pro1 with the f/2 versions of the 35, 23 and 18 in about the same space so it's kind of a toss up for travel purposes.
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Seems like an XE3 with 18-55 would be a smaller package. Of course, you'd give up the OVF.
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Old 05-20-2018   #5
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I was tempted to go the teleconverter route many times.

Each time I decided the increase in size would compromise my overall usage experience. Also, I had a Canonet QL-17 III, so I was comfortable with the limitations of a fixed focal-length camera.

I admit the X100T pixel density has made me lazy because I can crop to a 40-to-50 mm equivalent field of view without loosing resolution. Obviously this does't work for wider fields-of-view.

The X-Series OVF implimentation is important to me, so I also have an X-Pro 2.
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Old 06-13-2018   #6
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Dogman, I have a x100s too and debate whether or not to upgrade to F, or not? Does the x100s do better in low light as I read somewhere?
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Does the x100s do better in low light as I read somewhere?
Why would it? The sensor is older and the AF does not focus as well in any light.
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Old 06-13-2018   #8
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After retiring from paid work, I sold all my Nikon gear that I used for newspaper work as I did not want to carry the weight. I started Fuji with the X100S and a X-E1 with the Fuji 1,4/35mm and a Nikkor 1,8/85mm. Ended up selling the X-E1 and lenses and now just have the X100S along with both the WCL and TCL converter lenese. I have toyed with the idea of picking up a second X100S to have the setup you are looking at. For the past year I have shot with only the X100S and TCL attached as I try to see [photographically speaking] like Cartier-Breeson did with his Leicas and a 50mm. Every once in a while, I take the TCL off for a wider shot but often find I might could do better with another X100S body with the WCL attached. In the end, it will all depend on your shooting style and what your end product is. If I was still working as a newspaper shooter, I would have stayed with the Nikons because of the vast range of subject matter (sports, portraits, news, etc.). But for what I do today (mostly street work and self-assigned projects that fit my current gear), a pair of X100S bodies with the conversion lenses does the job I need. AGAIN, it all depends on your shooting style and subject matter and what your end product is.
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Dogman, I have a x100s too and debate whether or not to upgrade to F, or not? Does the x100s do better in low light as I read somewhere?
I don't have the X100F so I can't compare them. I also don't shoot a lot in low light conditions. But, as jsrockit points out, newer sensors and processors usually perform better.
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I have the X100F. It has a digital converter for 50mm and 75mm. It serves my needs for an everyday shooter (when not shooting film).The Jpg's are so wonderful for my needs I hardly ever PP the RAW files.
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Old 09-06-2018   #11
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When I shot film only, I used a Canonet QL17 rangefinder with its fixed 40mm lens and a Leica M6 with three lenses (21/35/90).

When I began using digital, seriously considered buying the fixed 23mm lens X100 but did not for two reasons:
1. The release date was postponed too many times.
2. Based on my experience with my two film rangefinders, I knew that I really needed interchangeable lenses.

I eventually purchased the X-Pro1 and am glad I did. For me, it was a good substitute for the fixed-lens X100 series.

I now use an X-Pro2 with a 23mm f/2 and am very pleased with its performance.
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After seeing all the new announcements (almost all very impressive), I cuddled up to my Fuji X100f. Yeah, we're good.
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After seeing all the new announcements (almost all very impressive), I cuddled up to my Fuji X100f. Yeah, we're good.
Yep, still love my Fujis.
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I have the 50mm converter for my X100F and, as others have said, I tend not to use it because it is so large. The quality of the files is great, but the charms of a small camera are lost.

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Hi Ken,

Do ever use a lens cap with that hood? If so, what size is it?

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Do ever use a lens cap with that hood? If so, what size is it?

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No lens cap for me.
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Another cool feature of the the X100T/F (S also?) is that when you have the wide angle conversion lens on (28mm), and then use the digital teleconverter feature, you get focal lengths of 28, 41, and 58! :-)
I personally like the balance of the camera with the WCL lens attached. And I love the 28mm focal length.
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Well .. I just acquired a used X100T from ebay and it arrived 2 days ago. Black, with a grip. very nice looking. I haven't shot digital since 2014 but I have an upcoming 3-week trip and I don't want to lug around rolls of film and my Leica M9 is in the shop for open-heart surgery. I'm a zone focusing / rangefinder guy and mechanical focusing is what I like. After trial and error I have the fuji set up in MF with back button AF lock. So I can quickly lock to any distance , kinda like pushing the tab on a Leica lens. Its not as fast as focusing on my Leica Ms but its pretty good, a lot better than I expected. One area where it has an advantage over the Leicas is that it is a lot stealthier . Its absolutely awesomely silent. I'm playing around with the film modes. I plan to shoot JPEG only if only because I use a really old version of Lr without x-trans support. I downloaded Adobe DNG converter but I don't think i'll use raw unless really I can't get the JPEGs right ooc. The colors now look a bit saturated... Spent a couple hours on the streets yesterday .. overall very satisfied.
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Lamefrog, may I suggest buying Iridient X-Transformer software. I think it's about $40. It does a better job with RAF files than Lightroom and it's simple to use, even for a dullard like me.

Something else to look into is updating your LR software. It might depend on what version you have but Adobe did free updates for LR6 right up to the point they discontinued it.

I used JPEGs with Fuji when I first started using the cameras. The photos looked okay but I prefer using Raw for better control. Either way, I hope you enjoy using the camera.
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They were part of my working kit originally. But the addition of a Leica M240 made them a bit redundant so I sold it along. A delightful addition it was though.
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Dogman , thanks . I didn't know about Transformer. Looks like they have a free trial version and I'm definitely going to have a look.
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Yeah, give the free version a try. If you don't like it, nothing lost.

You use X-Transformer in conjunction with LR. Just import the IRT files into LR. That's a huge benefit to those of us who have spent time learning how to use (or misuse) LR controls.
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I've used both adapters on the X100s, t and f, they work really nicely. But as some have already said, it kills the simplicity of the camera, which is a significant part of its charm. Granted, as a travel kit it's wonderful as you don't need to worry about getting dust on the sensor.

As you also have an interchangeable lens fuji x, it would be useful to have the X100F as a second body, say, pairing both cameras - 35/1.4 and WCL, TCL and 14/2.8 etc. It's a pretty good way to shoot, not needing to change lenses outside of a more controlled, dust free environment.
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... The colors now look a bit saturated... Spent a couple hours on the streets yesterday .. overall very satisfied.
You can change the in-camera JPEG rendering using the menus. You can store several sets of your favorite in-camera JPEG rendering parameters and quickly change them too. There is no reason to have over saturated color rendering.

I suggest you make sure the JPEG sharpening level is set to the lowest value.
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Thank you . Sharpening was set at +1 . Still working thru the menu options.
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If you work outdoors with speed lights, or indoors balancing window daylight w/flash, the X100 cameras have a great advantage over most others. A Leaf shutter.
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But as some have already said, it kills the simplicity of the camera, which is a significant part of its charm.
By "simplicity" I assume you mean the ergonomics and not the operational capability of the camera. While I agree that the ergonomics and pocket-capability of the camera is compromised, I have found that additional capability of having 3 focal lengths in a small package offsets the disadvantages. But I did come from carrying around two Nikon D2H bodies with an assortment of fast zooms when I was working....
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While I agree that the ergonomics and pocket-capability of the camera is compromised, I have found that additional capability of having 3 focal lengths in a small package offsets the disadvantages.
Yes - and IMO, the x100, when wearing the 50mm conversion lens, looks quite superb!
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