Zeiss ZX1?
Old 09-27-2018   #1
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Zeiss ZX1?

Did you folks see this? Zeiss has launched a FF compact with fixed 35mm f2 lens - and a very interesting take on a compact camera. Things get curiouser and curiouser...

https://www.dpreview.com/news/343044...d-35mm-f2-lens
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Old 09-27-2018   #2
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wow! thom hogan should be happy about this announcement.
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Old 09-27-2018   #3
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It looks very interesting. If they priced it around $2500, I bet they'd sell a boatload. But that's wishful thinking.
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Interesting!
Strange design... I'm not quite sure wheter I like it or not. A RX1 doesn't seem to be worse.
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Not for me... too big and too ugly!
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Old 09-27-2018   #6
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Seems like there was some influence from Sigma. Seems to have some DNA from the DPM and DPQ.

I think it could be interesting. I like the dedicated shutter speed, ISO and aperture dials.
Could be more like a 35mm Leica Q and less like the Sony RX1.
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Old 09-27-2018   #7
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I think it looks awesome! Really well thought out and designed... One of the most innovative piece of photographic gear I've seen in awhile...
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Old 09-27-2018   #8
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Next make it with interchangeable lenses and an EVF and it can join the queue with along all the other FF mirrorless cameras just announced .
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Old 09-27-2018   #9
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Looks interesting, specially that it has a Distagon rather than a Sonnar (I would have preferred a Biogon, of course, but they probably wanted a telecentric lens design, perhaps due to the work required to engineer an offset microlens array on a custom sensor).

I hope the Lightroom CC functionality is purely optional, I have no intention of being a serf on Adobe's pay-forever subscription plantation.

As for the name, "ZX1" is way too close to "RX1". Looks wise, I'd say it looks more like a Leica T with elements of Sigma DP Quattro than the RX1, however.
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all of the fuji x100 shooters who want a full frame sensor and only use the EVF () are going crazy right now.
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Old 09-27-2018   #11
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ugly but i like the minimalistic design.
is this a sign that Zeiss will release their own FF next year, like what Sony did with the RX1?
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this is zeiss's first camera since the zeiss ikon, and i am very excited!

android, internal memory, tone-perfect feature set.

i'm getting ahead of myself, but zeiss could become the coolest camera maker of the '20s.
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all of the fuji x100 shooters who want a full frame sensor and only use the EVF () are going crazy right now.
Not me... still prefer the Fuji cameras and even the Leica CL / Q.
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My understanding was that Zeiss re-acquired the rights to the Contax name a few years ago. Knew something was coming, had thought it would be nice to have that Contax script across the front.
As far the shape, it might actually turn out to be very ergonomic, but only time will tell.
Will be interesting to see how this shakes out in reality once tested. Not that I need something else.
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Old 09-27-2018   #16
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There's a lot of expensive cameras coming out soon. Some of them might be limited time only!


At least Zeiss put some interesting ideas into this. Sure is ugly... but in a good way. Hope its easy to grip...
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Old 09-27-2018   #17
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Touch screen dependant for basic controls by the look of things. Not for me...
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https://petapixel.com/2018/09/27/zei...-frame-camera/

More on this... I like the news as it shows zeiss is getting active in this field...
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Cute, but unmatured.
Add ISO dial and focus scale, then it is.
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Cute, but unmatured.
Add ISO dial and focus scale, then it is.
it has an ISO dial. really hoping it has a linear focus ring!

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Old 09-27-2018   #21
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It seems to have an ISO dial already. Next to the shutter speed dial.
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It seems to have an ISO dial already. Next to the shutter speed dial.
Too bad it doesn't have an exposure composition dial.
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Is the Zeiss ZX1 interesting? In my opinion it’s very interesting. I’m very pleased to see Zeiss back in the camera manufacturing game.

Is it my cuppa tea? No, not at all. It looks to slick, I prefer something a little more clunky with protruding camera strap lugs and a viewfinder.

I wonder who is actually manufacturing this camera? I don’t think Cosina has anything to do with this.

I do hope that the ZX1 is very successful so that in the future they [Zeiss] may see their way to making an M-mount digital rangefinder, but that is probably highly doubtful.

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I have no interest whatsoever in this camera; however, what excites me about this news is that Zeiss finally has a digital body. Given that, it provides a glimmer of hope for a digital ZI. Now THAT news would get me going! Sure, it’s a fantasy right now, but I don’t think I’d be the only one on RFF who would welcome that kind of news.
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Too bad it doesn't have an exposure composition dial.

Maybe via touch screen? A curious and possibly deal breaker design flaw
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^question is do you want an actual digital RFF camera like Leica or inspired RFF camera like Fuji?

I love the size, ergonomics and feel of a RFF camera but see advantages of EVF more than RFF, so a Fuji X-E/X-Pro type of camera but full-frame would be my dream camera.
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Maybe via touch screen? A curious and possibly deal breaker design flaw
exposure compensation is via the touch screen:

https://youtu.be/GfVDvBzVrCo?t=44s
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I have no interest whatsoever in this camera; however, what excites me about this news is that Zeiss finally has a digital body. Given that, it provides a glimmer of hope for a digital ZI. Now THAT news would get me going! Sure, it’s a fantasy right now, but I don’t think I’d be the only one on RFF who would welcome that kind of news.
why a zeiss ikon when there's already the m10?

the possibility of a contax t2/t3 type of camera is what came to my mind.
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Shame the aperture ring is on backwards

Correction-it appears the marking are fixed on the barrel and the ring moves past them. All as it should be
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Would consider it if it will shoot 1:1 in camera, a dramatic flaw in the Q
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Looks like it has Sigma DNA...
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Next make it with interchangeable lenses and an EVF and it can join the queue with along all the other FF mirrorless cameras just announced .
It has an EVF
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why a zeiss ikon when there's already the m10?
Cuz the M10 is $7300 and 'only' 24mp
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It has an EVF
So it is half way there already !

A focal plane shutter and interchangeable lenses and Bob is your uncle.
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So, it has ISO, Aperture and Shutter Dial.
Good it has no exposure compensation dial. If you know what for ISO, Aperture and Shutter Speed are, then this compensation dial is useless.

Aperture numbers are just like on my Sonnar copy a.k.a. J-3.

They have normal VF in it, not Sony equipped with Zeiss 35/2 RX1 jumping pimple.
But it will be nice to have famous ZM pimple on the focus ring.
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Cuz the M10 is $7300 and 'only' 24mp
oh yeah, i forgot that part.
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Maybe via touch screen? A curious and possibly deal breaker design flaw
Its in the menu... to for me its useless there... I rather have the dial.
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So, it has ISO, Aperture and Shutter Dial.
Good it has no exposure compensation dial. If you know what for ISO, Aperture and Shutter Speed are, then this compensation dial is useless.

Aperture numbers are just like on my Sonnar copy a.k.a. J-3.

They have normal VF in it, not Sony equipped with Zeiss 35/2 RX1 jumping pimple.
But it will be nice to have famous ZM pimple on the focus ring.
That's 100% not true... If you shoot Aperture Priority mode like I do..On my SonyA7R II, I use the Exposure Comp dial all the time..
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So, it has ISO, Aperture and Shutter Dial.
Good it has no exposure compensation dial. If you know what for ISO, Aperture and Shutter Speed are, then this compensation dial is useless.

Aperture numbers are just like on my Sonnar copy a.k.a. J-3.

They have normal VF in it, not Sony equipped with Zeiss 35/2 RX1 jumping pimple.
But it will be nice to have famous ZM pimple on the focus ring.
That's 100% not true... Not useless at all...if you shoot Aperture Priority mode like I do..On my SonyA7R II, I use the Exposure Comp dial all the time..
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Watching the model use the touch screen without moving his eye from the finder suggests to me that what is on the rear screen is also displayed in the EVF. That makes a lot of sense for moving the extra controls to the touch screen. Also less places you need to weather seal.


Since it is a fixed mount, I'm hoping they keep this in a decently affordable price range.


Not that I need more choices down the road. Got too many already.


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