Japanese Review of Voigtlander 40/2.8 Heliar
Old 10-16-2014   #1
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Japanese Review of Voigtlander 40/2.8 Heliar

OK, I don't read Japanese, but I certainly like the pics!

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/r...10_670547.html

google translation to English is here
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At this time the 40/2.8 lens head is available only to mount on the Voigtlander VM Close up to NEX focusing helical adapter for full frame or smaller NEX cameras. Time will tell if the lens is made available for other mounts, or the lens head idea is used by Voigtlander for other focal lengths as well. Personally I am hoping a 40/2.8 success story could mean a whole series of super compact Voigtlander lens heads designed for the VM E Close up adapter, which in time could be added other Voigtlander focusing helicals for other mirrorless cameras. M43 and Fuji X are obvious candidates.

Notice the lens includes both the dome and straight lens hoods, and that it marks a return to the metal push over metal lens cap. Congrats to Mr. Kobayashi for such an innovative design- a very compact, lightweight lens with nice bokeh.

The new 40/2.8 will start shipping to customers towards the end of October 2014.

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Couldn't this then be used on a Fuji X camera with a Leica M helicoid close-focus adapter on it? Just curious, as I like the idea of this lens.
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Couldn't this then be used on a Fuji X camera with a Leica M helicoid close-focus adapter on it? Just curious, as I like the idea of this lens.
Only if there is a NEX to Fuji X adapter - I am aware of none.

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It is M-mount, I thought? Could it not be attached to something like this?

Perhaps I'm being a bit thick...
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It is M-mount, I thought? Could it not be attached to something like this?

Perhaps I'm being a bit thick...
In theory, yes. But you might not reach infinity or go over it when focusing. I don't know if different macro adapters are designed with different extension lengths in mind - my guess is that some are designed to deliver closer focus at the cost of durability.
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It is M-mount, I thought? Could it not be attached to something like this?

Perhaps I'm being a bit thick...

I'm not sure that would work.

Yes, the lens head would fit that adapter. I doubt if the back focus would be right to allow a full range of focusing, but its worth giving it a try to find out.


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If I get a decent bonus at the end of the year, I might give it a try. I see no reason why it wouldn't work. After all, infinity focus on a Leica M lens is a set distance to the film/sensor plane. My adapter reaches it with regular Leica lenses; I see no reason why it wouldn't work with this one.
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any one else take a look at the article and pics?

What do you think ?
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I think it is a nice setup.. I read the article. My only negative is no focus scale and depth of field info. I sometimes zone focus. I think if Sony ever makes a ff in a a6000 like body, that would be the perfect combo.

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any one else take a look at the article and pics?

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Hi Stephen,

The pics look all right. Can't really tell at internet display sizes, but sharpness seems fine. Bokeh looks nice as well, even if there isn't much of it at 40mm and F2.8.

My only gripe with a lens like this one is that I already have more adapters for M-mount than I need, and have opted for really nice fixed adapters and a cheap macro one because I don't want to lose shots because of accidentally turning the adapter. If I use the new Voigtlander one the lense falls somewhere close to the "impulse buy" range - not so much if the adapter gets thrown in.
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any one else take a look at the article and pics?

What do you think ?
looks nice lens not much to add. interesting to have native mount, collapsible lens for modern mirrorless like Sony.

f2.8 feels a bit slow for standard fl like 40 though. sure they could have made it f2 without adding size much.
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I'm interested in it... we will see how I feel later about buying it.
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looks great but not interested at all.
I went with a Novoflex M-NEX adapter since The Camera Store didnt have the Voigtlander adapter in stock, will it work with it?

the lens is sure tiny but how smaller is it compared to the Nokton 40mm 1.4? I would rather get that one personally due to being 2 stops faster at a slightly bigger size
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the lens is sure tiny but how smaller is it compared to the Nokton 40mm 1.4? I would rather get that one personally due to being 2 stops faster at a slightly bigger size
While I get that, will the 1.4 work as well on the Sony? Will it focus as close, give the same performance across the frame etc? Let's remember that the Sony has very good high ISO capabilities, so 2 extra stops might not matter in many people's photography.
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Is this the first new lens designed for the visoflex in 30+ years?
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Looks like a nice lens, the pictures a pretty shape and the color looks good.

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Is this lens somehow special? I mean, what is the purpose for having this particular lens, compared with buying other new lenses on the market?
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Is this lens somehow special? I mean, what is the purpose for having this particular lens, compared with buying other new lenses on the market?
There is no other native 40mm FF manual focus lens for the Sony?
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Is this lens somehow special? I mean, what is the purpose for having this particular lens, compared with buying other new lenses on the market?
IMO the point is to let the macro adapter do the focusing. This allows a lens to be made this small.
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While I get that, will the 1.4 work as well on the Sony? Will it focus as close, give the same performance across the frame etc? Let's remember that the Sony has very good high ISO capabilities, so 2 extra stops might not matter in many people's photography.
you're right, 0.5m vs 0.7m

not sure on performance as I didn't have a Nokton 40mm when I bought my A7 but from reviews/blogs it looks like a great performer

size wise, the 40/2.8 wins hands down though
A7 + Nokton 40
http://bartwronski.files.wordpress.c...7/dscf0861.jpg
A7 + Heliar 40
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dc...70/547/001.jpg

how much is this lens going to cost though considering that you may need to shell out an additional $300 if you don't own the VM-E Close Focus Adapter already
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If it only works on a Sony A7 why did they not make it an E mount?
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If it only works on a Sony A7 why did they not make it an E mount?
My simplistic understanding is that the lens basically includes just the glass and aperture adjustment; focusing is done with the adapter. So, if this is true, then a 'VM to another CSC mount' makes this lens usable on another mount, such as Fuji.

It is an interesting concept, and its versatility makes it desirable. Further, this lens inherently creates cross-selling opportunities for the company's helical focusing adapters.

The images seem sharp with pleasing bokeh but I don't think I'll be buying this since the 40mm FL isn't exactly one of my favorites. I'm curious why they used the 40mm FL for the launch of this new product; a 35mm or 50mm would have seemed more marketable, although those FL's do already have a lot of available lenses.

Just my $0.02.
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a 35mm or 50mm would have seemed more marketable, although those FL's do already have a lot of available lenses.

Sony has 35mm and 50mm (or 55mm) native lenses from Zeiss in manual and autofocus already. CV has a history of 40mm in its product catelog through the years.
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This can make a lot of CSC cameras pocketable, since it is collapsible. There are very few normal length lens options that make CSC cameras pocketable otherwise. That's the appeal for me.
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It is M-mount, I thought? Could it not be attached to something like this? Perhaps I'm being a bit thick...
If you are I am to.

Basically it is a fixed infinity Leica M lens.

It should be usable at infinity on an M body.

It should be usable at infinity and down to an unknown minimum focus on any close focus adapter with the following characteristics: infinity focus and a close-focusing helicoid.

Adapters that only function for close up, and simple extension rings, need not apply.

The perfect lens of this type IMHO would be a roughly 30mm sitting so it's entirely within the adapter, like the collapsed 40mm.
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I've enjoyed the CameraQuest supplied adapter. This is certainly a low volume item, but one that I just might buy. Whatever the price, having the adapter makes this decision an easier one. Please post further reviews. Hopefully, one of you have your $100 down and will report back early next month.
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CameraQuest will start shipping the new Voigtlander 40/2.8 will start shipping next week. Please see https://shop.cameraquest.com/voigtla...th-b-w-filter/

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I've been reading around. This lens looks absolutely awesome. Nicer draw than the 35 Sonnar FE, and sharp as a tack.
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voigtlander 40 heliar

I have had this lens mounted on my A7r and it is a nice little package however focusing is very difficult in any type of event where quick focus is needed. it does not perform well in low light and tends to produce muddy images on the high resolution sensor of the A7r. i like this lens very much but honestly it is not much smaller than an m-rokkor 40 and the rokkor is much easier to focus. the build quality is excellent and the color rendition is deep and contrasty. bokeh is smooth and it is a good 40 to walk around with when magnification and patient focusing is tolerable. i think voigtlander could make a plastic ring for the vme adapter with a tab that would assist faster focusing as it would be easy to get used to the tab position. if this is a design that they would continue with, future vme adapters might be improved by the placement of demarcations and an optional tab. i will probably keep this lens as it allows the a7r to fit nicely in a small bag or coat pocket. i cant recommend it as your only 40 if that is your preferred focal length.
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There are many lenses to choose from. Let people buy what they want. This is OK.
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i will probably keep this lens as it allows the a7r to fit nicely in a small bag or coat pocket. i cant recommend it as your only 40 if that is your preferred focal length.
Thanks for the report. Anyone else have the lens?
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I use this lens before. Its awesome lens. Everyone should buy it whenever find it in stock. Its very hard to find one in my country indonesia. But i sold it due to changing camera to leica sl. But i found the adapter for the SL now and i bought it again it will be arrive 1-2 weeks later.
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What is the current market value for it?
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