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Old 09-21-2010   #1
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Seventy five year old photographs ... amazing!

Images from the first roll scanned of a collection of seventy five year old film, sixteen rolls in all ... described in this thread:


I've selected twelve images from the first roll scanned which was Kodak Panatomic and very difficult to scan. The film was still very tight and the density of the negatives made scanning extremely slow but it's a hell of film image wise IMO. I know very little detail about the photos but do know that this roll was shot in the USA.

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Keith, I logged in under a couple of different browsers, and the photos are whited-out, with a message of "Content Protected By Owner". Any suggestions?
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Same here.... only "contents protected by owner" ...

EDIT: visible now .... that is impressive !!! Wow !!!
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Keith, I logged in under a couple of different browsers, and the photos are whited-out, with a message of "Content Protected By Owner". Any suggestions?

I think that should be ok now ... I had them password protected on my site. I didn't realise it would have that affect here! Silly me!
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These are lovely, thanks for posting. Can't wait to see more.
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There is an eerie quality to them. Very interesting.
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Boy do I like that first shot!

Those closed eyes because of the slow burning flash bulb, the cars in the background, the guy on the left who stealthily put his hand on his girlfriends breast, the lorry with luggage and the 'night phone' # printed on the side.

Brilliant! Sure hope there will be more shots like that!

Keep up the good work Keith! Good luck on the remainder of your task!
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If I had to guess, faking it from the landscapes, I would say that these shots were taken in California. Thanks for posting, the pictures look pretty good given the age and the tightly coiled condition of the film.
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Wow, thanks for posting.
Can't wait to see more.
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What jumped out at me was that the second one shows a world before shipping containers. The washing line shot is great, too. It must be startling for you to see these come to life. I wonder how many people thought about throwing them away during the last 75 years.
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Wow, keep 'em coming Keith
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Great Keith, I'm amazed at the quality of the artificial lighting in the first one. Maybe it is just under a spot lamp but the source looks lower. It is wide an very well done. Also the girl with the horse on the hillside, the photographer used a fill flash and it is perfect. If this is in the US it is probably somewhere near Santa Barbara, CA. As you can see we 'stole' Eucalyptus from you. There is a horse, girl, sand scene that looks like I can see the Channel Islands in the distance.
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Well done Keith - thanks for sharing! Some interesting images, and perhaps old memories for the family.. I also like the first one especially, though they are all quite good!
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Thank you so much for sharing those photos. Looking at those images is like a brief trip in a time machine. But what is more striking to me is the human element. The first image, for example -- such a pleasant gathering of young men and women, with hopes, dreams, lusts, failures, ambitions etc. ... obviously those people are all familiar to each other and enjoying that evening as a group. It's striking to think that each of those individuals is probably long dead by now.
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BTW, I also have to salute the photographer, whoever he or she was. Using the technology of the day, I would imagine it wasn't easy to consistently get good photos. The person who took these photos obviously had an eye for composition, and they must have had decent equipment to get these shots.
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So much for all of the warnings to "Process promptly". Film is a lot tougher than we think. Great project! Keep going!
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Regarding the locations these were taken at: in Keith's original RFF post, the film canisters are all labeled with locations in the Pacific and Asia, including Australia. But there's also a couple canisters labeled "Amerika".

The eucalyptus trees could mean Australia. But then again, it could be SoCal.
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Wow, very nice! Looking forwad to see more.
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I have seen lots of eucalyptus trees in Peru, NZ, Bolivia and Ecuador, as well as Australia and USA. Widely used species for reforestation efforts.


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Regarding the locations these were taken at: in Keith's original RFF post, the film canisters are all labeled with locations in the Pacific and Asia, including Australia. But there's also a couple canisters labeled "Amerika".

The eucalyptus trees could mean Australia. But then again, it could be SoCal.
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dexdog -- you're right. I shouldn't jump to conclusions regarding the trees. They're grown in lots of different subtropical locations. I was just making a wild guess based upon the labels on the original film canisters.

Based upon the arid conditions visible in the photos and the abundance of eucalyptus, I'd lean more towards Australia than California, but I could be wrong. The topography in the photos doesn't reveal any clues -- the hills / mountains are indistinct.

I also have been in S. America and seen eucalyptus planted in reforestation / monocultures, but because none of the canister labels are written with any of these locations, I did not include them in my guess.

The only other subtropical location listed on the canisters is New Zealand, but judging by the photos, I wouldn't say that's NZ. But again, it's just a fun guessing game.
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BTW -- a quick google search revealed a clue about one of the canisters. One of the labels says "Lepperton Farm", as well as "NZ". Lepperton Farm is near New Plymouth, NZ.
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That is just amazing Keith! Great job. I think the photo with the shadows of the horses is my favorite, but number 1 is very interesting. Looking forward to seeing more.
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dexdog -- you're right. I shouldn't jump to conclusions regarding the trees. They're grown in lots of different subtropical locations. I was just making a wild guess based upon the labels on the original film canisters.

Based upon the arid conditions visible in the photos and the abundance of eucalyptus, I'd lean more towards Australia than California, but I could be wrong. The topography in the photos doesn't reveal any clues -- the hills / mountains are indistinct.

I also have been in S. America and seen eucalyptus planted in reforestation / monocultures, but because none of the canister labels are written with any of these locations, I did not include them in my guess.

The only other subtropical location listed on the canisters is New Zealand, but judging by the photos, I wouldn't say that's NZ. But again, it's just a fun guessing game.
I think that some areas of NZ look a lot like areas in California. I was hoping to get a better look at the license plates (i.e., tags) on the cars, but not enough detail.

On the other hand, good observation re the Lepperton Farm note on the film can.
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Like taking a trip back in time. Very exciting to have a look at simpler times. Though I'm not convinced that it's the USA. The horse has an English saddle and the name over the door Tremayne is english also. Beautiful photos though. Can't wait to see more.
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Great stuff, I didn't think you'd get anything, not England (not raining), altho one of the cars looks like a Ford Popular ...
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Based upon the arid conditions visible in the photos and the abundance of eucalyptus, I'd lean more towards Australia than California, but I could be wrong. The topography in the photos doesn't reveal any clues -- the hills / mountains are indistinct.
One of the photos has a Limestone outcrop which is very much like Santa Barbara, but as someone said 'Tremayne' is not used here (CA) but there are 272 in CA and I also tried to see the license with no luck. The vehicle in the first photo background has a 4 digit phone number at least in 1942 we use a 6 digit; number ex. NEptune 5353. So I'm not sure about CA.
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Could be wrong, as others have said, but the male faces and grooming do not strike me as a cross-section of US faces in 30s and 40's.
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On the first shot there's more people, I noticed just now.

The luggage lorry is an open lorry and the drive is lying on the bench behind the wheel. Also, ther's somebody standing behind the lorry, in the middle you can see his neck, dark hair and ears sticking up from behind it.

Not a clue on the lorry's printings, sorry.
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These are great fun, thanks for sharing Keith.
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two of the vehicle look to have the steering wheel on the right, no?
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Thanks for this wonderful trip back to the past. It really is amazing how well the images have kept up.
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Great. Immediately assumed they are mostly from Australia. The people in the flash shot look it, as do the buildings and of course the bush. Love the late afternoon one with the fading sunlight in the trees and the horse being led up the hill. But I can be guilty of flora and fauna hubris too. Well remember being shocked to find eucalyptus ficiflora and native bees just like ours in California.
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That horse on the beach shows hills across the water like in New Zealand. The people in the first one may have been partying after their annual tennis club tournament. The foreground woman's head scarf and that guy's woollen socks are making me think of somewhere else. ?S America. Maybe it's Darwin......
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One of the photos has a Limestone outcrop which is very much like Santa Barbara, but as someone said 'Tremayne' is not used here (CA) but there are 272 in CA and I also tried to see the license with no luck. The vehicle in the first photo background has a 4 digit phone number at least in 1942 we use a 6 digit; number ex. NEptune 5353. So I'm not sure about CA.
Can't say if it is or isn't Santa Barbara, but you're right - it has all the elements to be.

It's quite overcast right now, but can't help it - I'm going to the beach to see if I can match the islands outline in the picture to what I can see....
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I read your original post with the picture of the film canisters in the Leica box and I'm pretty sure those negatives were taken with a Leica. The quality is like that of the photos my father took in the 1930s with his first Leica, a model III with Summar. Those pictures, taken in Holland before the Second World War, are a real treasure.
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I find this thread more romantic, intriguing and of historical importance than the whole M9 Titanium business.

Keep up the good work Keith, Respect.


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Can't say if it is or isn't Santa Barbara, but you're right - it has all the elements to be.

It's quite overcast right now, but can't help it - I'm going to the beach to see if I can match the islands outline in the picture to what I can see....
I was there last weekend to visit my son. The fog never lifted enough for the islands to show. Good luck though.
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