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Old 02-01-2011   #1
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X100 improvements thread

You knew it had to be done.

I've seen a ton of great suggestions in the forums on improving what we know about the upcoming camera. Everyone is going to have their own opinions on what changes they'd like to see in future editions of the X100. Like all good cameras, there will be future editions.

At first I thought I wanted f/1.4 and IS. After thinking about it, I no longer think it needs IS.
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If it came in BLACK I might consider going over to "The Digital Darkside"
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The poor thing's not even released yet and we're already telling Fuji how to improve it!

You guys are tough.
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The poor thing's not even released yet and we're already telling Fuji how to improve it!

You guys are tough.
This is RFF!!

What about a removable film module?
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Seriously, Keith! When I saw the thread title I was scratching my head!
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I have to admit the proliferation of X100 threads was really pi$$ing me off at one stage ... but for some weird reason I quite enjoy them now! They say it does take a while to adjust to a disability!

And I have little intention of buying one new!
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If it came in BLACK I might consider going over to "The Digital Darkside"
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This is RFF!!

What about a removable film module?
Kodak did that.

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...ghlight=dcs200
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remove the flash and shed the "retro" styling.
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I miss distance markers and a DOF scale on the lens! Right now it seems that you have to use the finder to focus manually. Or should I really use auto-focus?
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how about a Leica S2 improvement thread? ah right, that one does come in black.

sorry for being sarcastic, I'm done now.
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This thread is already getting old; someone needs to start an X200 Improvement thread.

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I miss distance markers and a DOF scale on the lens! Right now it seems that you have to use the finder to focus manually. Or should I really use auto-focus?
I think additions like this ^^ and a matte black option would be considered fairly easy to incorporate.
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X100 is a major improvement in terms of photographic functionality compared to anything out there in its class, so as long as it operates smoothly and its fast in its basic photo taking operation, it will be sold out for at least first six months of its release.
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Dedicated ISO dial. Doubled up on top of shutter dial would work with me. But, I don't want to lose the Fn+dial option for non-ISO functions. So, a dedicated ISO button somewhere near shutter release is my ideal.
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With film we use one ISO and stick with it, and when loading a new film it takes a while, so while I do like a separate ISO button, its not really a big deal especially when almost every digital camera has a auto ISO function.

They just need to make the +/- button more solid so it won't easily get moved by hand, its placed in an awkward position as the Norwegian guy mentioned.
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Why not just spray paint it black?

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Why not just spray paint it black?

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I'm guessing you're being sarcastic.

It's not completely far-fetched. These guys specialize in painting gadgets. http://www.colorwarepc.com/default.aspx That said, I don't see any cameras in their portfolio. Just camera phones.
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Put a Nikon logo on it and make it look like a smaller S3!
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Find it some sane supporters?
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Re-title to: X100 Wishful Thinking thread
As in "I wish they had kept it secret until closer to the release date"?
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The buzz on the internet alone for this camera is excellent, free marketing for Fuji's brand. Releasing the news of the camera early was excellent strategy on their part.

As far as the spray paint, I wasn't sarcastic. Final product is only as good as the prep time put in. There's no reason that these can't be painted.

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The buzz on the internet alone for this camera is excellent, free marketing for Fuji's brand. Releasing the news of the camera early was excellent strategy on their part.

As far as the spray paint, I wasn't sarcastic. Final product is only as good as the prep time put in. There's no reason that these can't be painted.

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Well ... we've waited this long for the camera and it's still not here so another six months for Shintaro to paint one shouldn't be a problem!
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Call me when it gets an M-mount and full frame sensor. 'Til then, it's just a tourist camera.

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I miss distance markers and a DOF scale on the lens! Right now it seems that you have to use the finder to focus manually. Or should I really use auto-focus?
This. I was surprised that Fuji did not include a DoF scale.
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This. I was surprised that Fuji did not include a DoF scale.
Where have you been?

The Focal Distance + DoF scale was known since Day 1...in the O/EVF where your eye should be, a world's first.
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Call me when it gets an M-mount and full frame sensor. 'Til then, it's just a tourist camera.
How about an M8? It has the resolution necessary to compete with full frame and they are pretty cheap these days. M8 is an awesome camera still.

The 1.3 crop sensor doesn't bother me at all with regard to the M8. It's the dang filters that are a pain.

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cutting the price to around 500$ would be a great improvement
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And so would be cutting the price to about $20, and handing out free busty girlfriends with the cameras (or alternatively muscular boyfriends for those who so desire).
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The Focal Distance + DoF scale was known since Day 1...in the O/EVF where your eye should be, a world's first.
Sure that's great. When you focus while you look through the viewfinder, this should be even better than a SLR!

But sometimes it is nice to set up the camera without raising it to your eye to avoid raising attention. (Think Cartier-Bresson) The X100 should be ideal for this, because you can set aperture and exposure time without looking at the viewfinder or LCD. The problem is that you cannot scale focus the camera without raising it to your eye. The philosophy of the X100 seems to be that all essential Adjustments should be directly accessible without the need to stare at the LCD or the finder. That's why I wonder why they didn't care about manual focusing.

I could live without a DOF scale, but distance markers would be quite helpful. Maybe it will be possible to plug something on the focus ring?
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The problem is that you cannot scale focus the camera without raising it to your eye.
Are you sure you won't be able to do it on the LCD?
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I think the most important improvement they can make is to actually release the damn thing.

At this point in time, it just sucks. I haven't seen one good photo taken with this camera yet.

But maybe I am just too callous. There have been really nice photos taken of X100 pro-types. Isn't that all that Fuji's marketing department care about?
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Sure that's great. When you focus while you look through the viewfinder, this should be even better than a SLR!

But sometimes it is nice to set up the camera without raising it to your eye to avoid raising attention. (Think Cartier-Bresson) The X100 should be ideal for this, because you can set aperture and exposure time without looking at the viewfinder or LCD. The problem is that you cannot scale focus the camera without raising it to your eye. The philosophy of the X100 seems to be that all essential Adjustments should be directly accessible without the need to stare at the LCD or the finder. That's why I wonder why they didn't care about manual focusing.

I could live without a DOF scale, but distance markers would be quite helpful. Maybe it will be possible to plug something on the focus ring?
The LCD views shown so far do not display it, but maybe there is an option to show the DOF scale and focus distance on the LCD on the back? probably in live view mode for sure. That wouldn't require lifting to your eye to set distance.
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Are you sure you won't be able to do it on the LCD?
Well, now that you say it... I think you are right, the LCD should be fine for that purpose. It even works in the dark. That and a a few pencil marks on the focus ring should do it.
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Well, now that you say it... I think you are right, the LCD should be fine for that purpose. It even works in the dark. That and a a few pencil marks on the focus ring should do it.
There was a discussion about this, and while we didn't come to an absolute consensus, the general agreement was that pencil marks on the focusing ring will be useless. It provides rotational change info to the focusing motor, it is not mechanically coupled, and most likely does not deliver absolute rotation position. Pencil marks will correspond to different distances every time in this case.
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