Pentax Q System
Old 06-22-2011   #1
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Pentax Q System

Just wondering if anyone has seen this yet? Looks intresting.
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Old 06-22-2011   #2
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If I'm honest, this has to be one of the ugliest camera's I've ever seen. It almost looks like it's made of lego pieces or something.
It does look interesting, but with a tiny tiny sensor, 'toy' lenses and a price tag above current m4/3 cameras what's more interesting to me is *** they were thinking when they designed this thing... If (with the 50mm lens) it was priced under $500 it would be a much more interesting little camera.

One things for sure though - it's absolutely tiny!
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Old 06-22-2011   #3
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There are a lot of ugly cameras out there, but people still buy them. I'm sure this camera is not for everyone but after reading a full review on it here http://www.imaging-resource.com/PROD.../PENTAXQA.HTM#
I'm even more amazed they fit all of this in such a small package.

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Old 06-23-2011   #4
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High price tag, small sensor, remind why anyone would buy this over something like a Oly Pen? Really Pentax, another lens system?
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Old 06-23-2011   #5
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Just saw this and was interested (for a friend) but the small sensor size turns me off. Some will no doubt like the small camera body size. The key for me will be how easy it is to use the manual functions (e.g. exposure and focusing).
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Old 06-23-2011   #6
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High price tag, small sensor, remind why anyone would buy this over something like a Oly Pen? Really Pentax, another lens system?
Perhaps they are going after the market of people that use iphones with the different apps. That would make the toy lenses make more sense.

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Old 06-23-2011   #7
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It's the Auto 110 digital.
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Old 06-23-2011   #8
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Sensor has compact camera size. What the hell can this camera do that my Canon G10 can't (or a LX5)?
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Sensor has compact camera size. What the hell can this camera do that my Canon G10 can't (or a LX5)?

It can change lenses
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Sensor has compact camera size. What the hell can this camera do that my Canon G10 can't (or a LX5)?
Well... interchangeable lenses...

I pretty much agree though. RRP is $800, and to me that just doesn't make sense.
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Seems to have very clean ISO 6400 files for its size though... and I would hope that $800 is suggested price. I'd be interested in one for $500-600 with the prime.
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Old 06-23-2011   #12
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It's...uh...tiny.

Not quite sure what else to say. Big in Japan?
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Old 06-23-2011   #13
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Well... interchangeable lenses...

I pretty much agree though. RRP is $800, and to me that just doesn't make sense.
That includes two lenses.
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That includes two lenses.
Everywhere I've read stated that it only includes the prime and that the toy lenses will be $79 each and the zoom $300. Not sure about the fisheye.

I could never see buying into this as your only camera, but it is an intriguing second or third option. I'm a sucker for small cameras. A tiny camera with a fast 50, leaf shutter, and what looks to be good high ISO performance? Priced right, this will do well with certain people. For me to be into it, it would have to AF fast and feel right in the hand.

Still kind of a weird choice to use a sensor smaller than the Olympus XZ-1.
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Seems to have very clean ISO 6400 files for its size though... and I would hope that $800 is suggested price. I'd be interested in one for $500-600 with the prime.
Where have you seen full size iso 6400 samples?
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not usable, sensor is too small!
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I think it's quite pretty, it's very "different" and of course, it's tiny. I applaud Pentax for not just making another "me too" camera.
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Where have you seen full size iso 6400 samples?
I haven't... just small sizes: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PROD...XQINBI6400.HTM

However, it looks to have good high ISO. Pentax didn't include an antialiasing filter either.

This is smaller than I thought too:


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Old 06-23-2011   #19
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My guess is by making the sensor small they can keep the lenses small and proportionate to the camera body. I've often thought that some of the lenses for the mFT or Sony compact cameras dwarf the camera itself to the point of looking ridiculous.

It's the Auto110 for the new generation. If you can slip this camera and a few lenses into a coat pocket, you're away.

Give it a few months, and the price will drop below the announced price, which will make it look a nicer proposition.
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Old 06-23-2011   #20
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That is small. And a 40.5mm filter size? Good grief! I don't think it would fit my pocketbook at value for performance. It is kind of cute and camp though.
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The Q System is DOA.

People who value convenience over performance will just use their Smartphones.
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If I'm honest, this has to be one of the ugliest camera's I've ever seen. It almost looks like it's made of lego pieces or something.
It does look interesting, but with a tiny tiny sensor, 'toy' lenses and a price tag above current m4/3 cameras what's more interesting to me is *** they were thinking when they designed this thing... If (with the 50mm lens) it was priced under $500 it would be a much more interesting little camera.

One things for sure though - it's absolutely tiny!
Yep. Nice idea, overpriced and maybe a few years late.

Call me when I can get the entire system for $500, including lenses.
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Wait... I spoke too early.

The Q System cameras come with SilkyPix. This changes everything.
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Just for comparison... Nex with Zoom:

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I would like to adapt my Nikkor 500mm reflex onto it. EFV will then be 2850mm mega-telephoto.
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Adorama is already accepting pre-orders at $799... too steep for the street (price).

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As a lifelong Pentax user I have to say that I find this thing intriguing but for me I'm afraid it's just too small...just a very expensive P&S. Still, Pentax seem to have a knack for making "gimmicky" things work so I think the Q will work for them--they'll probably sell a ton of them in Japan.

If they made something about 50% larger with an APS-C sensor, a new line of lenses and an adapter for K-mount lenses I'd be all over it...
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I wonder if those 8mm movie lenses with tiny focal length can be used to cover the tiny sensor size in this camera...

Pentax better have something cool up their sleeves with this new system.
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I wonder if those 8mm movie lenses with tiny focal length can be used to cover the tiny sensor size in this camera...

Pentax better have something cool up their sleeves with this new system.

LOL! One of my first thoughts about this too. Even a c-mount might be cool.


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The first thing I would do if I got one of these would be to open the flash and break it off.

It would save me the trouble of being upset when it gets torn off later...
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FWIW, there's another mirrorless system from Pentax coming later in the year has has native K mount. This one will obviously be more for enthusiasts...
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Face it - every camera is designed for a niche market - and the readers of this forum are not the niche this camera will be targeted at. Hopefully the sales of this fun little camera in the Japanese market will help to improve the company's bottom line, and fund development of their SLR cameras and the new designs Gavin refers to above.
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I will most likely buy one to use for fun... but I gotta find it for a few hundred lower than $800.
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That includes two lenses.
yes one lens
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I like it. I will keep it in my purse next to my chihuahua.
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I'm wondering when the clear model is coming...



It is interesting that Pentax introduced the 110 when 110 film was in decline...and now the Q when sensors of this size are probably in decline.

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It is interesting that Pentax introduced the 110 when 110 film was in decline...and now the Q when sensors of this size are probably in decline.
Exactly! Now you're seeing the analogy!




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Hmmm Ray, that wasn't YOUR analogy though...
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In lens shutter

These use in lens leaf shutters, so you'll have to get one of those for your reflex lens. That'll be an interesting DIY project!!!

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These use in lens leaf shutters, so you'll have to get one of those for your reflex lens. That'll be an interesting DIY project!!!
oops, I didn't notice the part abut the in-lens leaf shutters.
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