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Old 01-24-2010   #1
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Getting bored with digital

I've gotten bored with digital lately. It's easy to snap off a lot of images but they don't compare to my B&W or Color film images.

I sold my D200 today and am now thinking about selling off my D90/lens/etc and going back to 100% film.

Maybe take the money and invest in more Leica film gear??

Opinions???????

Also...who can do high rez scanning of color film onto disk?? Not the cheap max image enlargable to 8x10 scanning of the local drug/dept store chains..
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use the money from the camera sales to purchase a Nikon Coolscan. that's what I'd do.
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use the money from the camera sales to purchase a Nikon Coolscan. that's what I'd do.
I already have a scanner but the number of negs going back to the late 50's I have that I want scanned to disk would take me longer than having it done by a pro service..
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Looks like you need a challenge. Get yourself an 8x10 camera and learn the wet colloidal process with glass plates. More 35mm will still be boring!

Kidding, of course. Buy some more Leica gear.
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I just traded my only digi to memphis for his iiif , no regrets and 100% film until I can get a hold of an M8 or they stop making film.( I don't see that happening anytime soon)
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Looks like you need a challenge. Get yourself an 8x10 camera and learn the wet colloidal process with glass plates. More 35mm will still be boring!
Did this years ago....

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Kidding, of course. Buy some more Leica gear.
I'm thinking about rounding up all of my Nikon digital gear and taking it to the show this weekend. Maybe I'll find something worthwhile to trade it for..
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I just traded my only digi to memphis for his iiif , no regrets and 100% film until I can get a hold of an M8 or they stop making film.( I don't see that happening anytime soon)
IIIf RD?? That sounds good....

Film will still be around long after I'm gone...
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One piece of advice:

Stop starting film vs. digital threads.
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One piece of advice:

Stop starting film vs. digital threads.
Long live film!!!!!!!!!!!!
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If I got bored with digital, I would not start shooting film exclusively. I'd take up BASE jumping!

A digital helmet cam would bring the challenge back
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Also...who can do high rez scanning of color film onto disk?? Not the cheap max image enlargable to 8x10 scanning of the local drug/dept store chains..
http://www.scancafe.com/

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I've read that they're reasonable and do good work.

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Thanks

I've bookmarked them and will have a look..
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Are you bored with digital ... or bored with the cameras you're using?

In your sig I note you have an M2 and M3 so obviously you have some M mount or LTM lenses and you also have three screwmounts and a couple Nikon SLR's ... why would you want any more film bodies than this unless you were going to go MF?

Why not sell the DSLR's and get a used M8 with the money and put the M mount and LTM lenses you have to a different use?

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Long live film!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bill should be along shortly to inform us all that film is, in fact dead or at least moribund.
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IIIf RD?? That sounds good....

Film will still be around long after I'm gone...
its a black dial , but super nice , its been my shooter since it showed up . I love it almost as much as my M3 aside from another couple lenses all I need to do is keep stocking my freezer with film.
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Are you bored with digital ... or bored with the cameras you're using?
Actually I like the Nikon digital system but the only time I turn out anything worthwhile is when shooting film. I find more and more that I am leaving the digital at home and taking one or more of my film cameras.

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In your sig I note you have an M2 and M3 so obviously you have some M mount or LTM lenses and you also have three screwmounts and a couple Nikon SLR's ... why would you want any more film bodies than this unless you were going to go MF?
To be honest I'm not looking to buy another body except maybe a Rolleiflex to replace the one that was stolen. I still miss that camera..

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Why not sell the DSLR's and get a used M8 with the money and put the M mount and LTM lenses you have to a different use?

Had a chance to try a used M8 from a local camera shop recently. As much as I like Leica I was not impressed..
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its a black dial , but super nice , its been my shooter since it showed up . I love it almost as much as my M3 aside from another couple lenses all I need to do is keep stocking my freezer with film.
I had a red dial self timer but let it go..still kicking myself...
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I'm bored with threads about digital vs film.
Then don't read them..

I have no intention of knocking either. Both have their place. It just depends on which suits each individual based on their needs..
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Actually I like the Nikon digital system but the only time I turn out anything worthwhile is when shooting film. I find more and more that I am leaving the digital at home and taking one or more of my film cameras.



To be honest I'm not looking to buy another body except maybe a Rolleiflex to replace the one that was stolen. I still miss that camera..



Had a chance to try a used M8 from a local camera shop recently. As much as I like Leica I was not impressed..

Hmmm ... an F6 maybe?
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I've gotten bored with digital lately. It's easy to snap off a lot of images but they don't compare to my B&W or Color film images.
Colyn,
Why are you bored? Do you change your shooting style when you shoot digital? If so, why? How do the images not compare? Composition not good? Out of focus? Is your post processing the issue? Have you tried a different post processing path?
Just wondering why you would sell a camera if you are truly bored. Take up a new project or approach to your photos instead of rashly selling off equiptment.
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Eh, he could always just buy another DSLR at any time , they make new ones every day.
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[quote=colyn;1244365]Actually I like the Nikon digital system but the only time I turn out anything worthwhile is when shooting film. I find more and more that I am leaving the digital at home and taking one or more of my film cameras.



Why do think this is? Have you put your finger on why you produce better images with film gear? Personally I don't think it has much to do with gear... I think its something psychological... at least for me. Images from my D90 were just as technically beautiful as my film stuff (at least as far as computer-printed scanned negatives goes). But I also got 'bugged' by the DSLR. But I haven't figured out what it is exactly.
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Bill should be along shortly to inform us all that film is, in fact dead or at least moribund.
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Why are you bored? Do you change your shooting style when you shoot digital? If so, why? How do the images not compare? Composition not good? Out of focus? Is your post processing the issue? Have you tried a different post processing path?
Just wondering why you would sell a camera if you are truly bored. Take up a new project or approach to your photos instead of rashly selling off equiptment.
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Digital does not have the same look as film which I grew up with plus I don't get to spend time in the darkroom like with film. I miss that when shooting digital. As far as post processing, composition, etc that's no problem. I don't like spending time in front of a computer fixing each and every one of my images. I'd rather be in the darkroom..

I never make rash decisions. Been thinking about this for some time now..
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You are doing this for nostalgia? You miss your youth and inhaling chemicals? You should learn to post process to get the image you want.
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You are doing this for nostalgia? You miss your youth and inhaling chemicals? You should learn to post process to get the image you want.
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To be honest digital never impressed me even though I used both a D200 and D90..

I already know how to post process having used photoshop, gimp, aperture, lightroom, capture nx2, and others. The darkroom is far more fun than spending hours in front of a computer tweaking colors, sharpness, etc..
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Did you see him in film or in digital?
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I've bookmarked them and will have a look..
I researched most of the commercial scanning services available... I've sent about 3600 35mm color negs to Scancafe and can give you a few tips if you use them:
  1. Sign up for their email newsletters and wait for a sale. I paid 19 cents and 21 cents per 35mm color neg for my orders. Last December I got a $300 gift card for $150! The sales are frequent enough that I'd never pay full price for their services.
  2. They only do 8-bit, regardless of color/B&W, format size, resolution, etc. I've pleaded with them to offer 16-bit for at least B&W, but until they switch from Photoshop Elements it's not gonna happen.
  3. You can throw away up to half of your scans and not have to pay for them, which is the best thing about Scancafe.
  4. They don't do any noise reduction, but do sharpen your scans (you can ask them to leave them unsharpened). Their Nikon Coolscans tend to accentuate the grain, so I do some light noise reduction on the scans.
Scancafe is best for archives of old negatives or slides when you don't care about fast turnaround. I don't send them any of my B&W negatives because I prefer to edit those in 16-bit.

If you want to give them a try, let me refer you and we both get a little something
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I've gotten bored with digital lately. It's easy to snap off a lot of images but they don't compare to my B&W or Color film images. ...
Colyn - I've never used Nikon or Canon digital gear, only the Pentax system, but I have often seen Pentax users write that Pentax digital gives more "film-like" results. I note that Bill uses Pentax too, which might explain his pleasure in digital . Maybe a shift to Pentax and a small set of their excellent prime lenses might be worth a try.

And - I understand where you are coming from. This isn't about film versus digital; it's about YOU and your photography and your enjoyment and how you get your best results. I'm in a similar space; enjoy my Leica and Pentax gear (dSLR and film bodies) use MF and LF as well, and I'm in the process of building my own darkroom to give me more options in that direction.

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I use Canon digtal gear and Zeiss film gear and both are great.

The bigger issue for me is what or why I am photographing - which isn't a film digital thing at all. In fact I'm increasingly agnostic about the kit, except the digital kit is heavier.

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I don't get to spend time in the darkroom like with film. I miss that when shooting digital. As far as post processing, composition, etc that's no problem. I don't like spending time in front of a computer fixing each and every one of my images. I'd rather be in the darkroom..
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Colyn - I've never used Nikon or Canon digital gear, only the Pentax system, but I have often seen Pentax users write that Pentax digital gives more "film-like" results. I note that Bill uses Pentax too, which might explain his pleasure in digital . Maybe a shift to Pentax and a small set of their excellent prime lenses might be worth a try.
I've heard the same. There is a store here that sells electronics/cameras/etc at discount prices. I see Pentax and Olympus DSLR's from time to time and may check it out sometime.

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And - I understand where you are coming from. This isn't about film versus digital; it's about YOU and your photography and your enjoyment and how you get your best results. I'm in a similar space; enjoy my Leica and Pentax gear (dSLR and film bodies) use MF and LF as well, and I'm in the process of building my own darkroom to give me more options in that direction.

Have fun!
Thanks Chris for the heads up...

Having been raised in the film era I know my way around and can do most tasks without thinking about what I am doing.. When comparing my digital and film images side by side the film wins hands down in part because of the above..

It all boils down to what works best for the individual.

I plan to shoot more MF and I may even break out my 4x5 and give it a run again..
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This Kiev 60 I picked up last weekend will wear out your hands and arms just carrying it....nearly 5lbs. worth...
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Long live film!!!!!!!!!!!!
Amen, brothuh ... preachin' to da choir!
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