Old 11-17-2015   #321
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this is as well explanation which i heard, to avoid paying tax. Leitz (and maybe others) were doing it already before WWII. In particular, almost all III(a)sync originating from I, Standard or early II resulted in new camera returned back.
When talking about conversions - this was my favourite collection topic until few years. Some of my most interesting example I was showing in Leica Forum, German parrt, thread Leica Umbauten.
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Old 11-20-2015   #322
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Would be great if you make some pictures.

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my red curtain is 377368. Main body diecast has yet a different shape around rewind knob than my other 389301, which I was showing few days ago. And yes, it has as well rounded lightshields, however no shims under the front plate.
I am posting now 3 fotos, for an unknown reason RFF is cutting down my source jpg down to 18-20kB. This is a reason for thumbnail fotos. Please PM me with your email address, I will mail you more, in higher resolution
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Old 11-20-2015   #323
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my red curtain is 377368. Main body diecast has yet a different shape around rewind knob than my other 389301, which I was showing few days ago. And yes, it has as well rounded lightshields, however no shims under the front plate.
I am posting now 3 fotos, for an unknown reason RFF is cutting down my source jpg down to 18-20kB. This is a reason for thumbnail fotos. Please PM me with your email address, I will mail you more, in higher resolution
Thank you very much for this information, Jerzyw.

To load up pictures in RFf, you best load them up first in Flickr, copy them in the desired format and finally paste them into your text in RFf. Then everyone can enjoy them.

Is the red curtain still working properly? I've always thought they were of an inferior quality, but when I see yours, I think I can get mine - 374820 - back to service too!

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Old 11-20-2015   #324
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My camera has typical disease - speeds are to slow, second image hardly visible, Vulkanit peeling off and broken and someone installed flash sync with socket in the shell. This is the reason why I opened it. Curtains are however in very good condition, without any black marks. I will remove flash sync, replace half mirror and will try to restore Vulkanit as much as possible.
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Old 11-20-2015   #325
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My camera is exactly the opposite: it is like new - only some bright marks on the chrome - but the curtains have black marks and are sticky. When I install new curtains, it will be no longer a "red curtain IIIc", so I have to leave it as it is.

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This is bad, I do not know anything what could stop derubberizing process. Temporarily you could help yourself with talk (children powder) to apply it on the black side of curtains and maybe as well on red side, on places when black rubber penetrated through. This shall prevent stickiness, but will not stop the process.
Some years ago MicroTools was selling red curtain fabric, unfortunately I did not bought it then. I was not able to locate any source for red curtain fabric now. Shall any RFF member know the source, pleaseeeee
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Not seen any threads or posts from LeicaTom for nearly 12 months has he left RFF?.
Yes. IIRC he's into VW Beetle restoring now. Not so much LeicaTom but BeetleTom

This used to be his thread but when he left it got deleted and Stephen brought it back from the dead after many requests from members.

Meanwhile, here's something nice to read about when it comes to red-curtain Leicas: http://johanniels.com/index.php/came...ain-leica-iiic

Now why did I ever sell that camera, it would have been worth thousands by now
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My new IIIc stepper. No idea if it's a 'K' or not underneath. The shutter curtains look like they've been replaced.

I think 1942 based on the serial number? Any other insights are welcome. The vulcanite has cracked and been reglued in several areas.

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A 1942 IIIc is likely a pre-K grey. Still a very nice sample though
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Hello, new to the forum. Looking for info on a iiic k chrome, no. 388 968. It might be fake but does look real. Thank you. Bob
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Hello, new to the forum. Looking for info on a iiic k chrome, no. 388 968. It might be fake but does look real. Thank you. Bob
Please post some photos of the camera (details shots top plate, shutter etc) so that we can help you verify what you have...
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Hello, new to the forum. Looking for info on a iiic k chrome, no. 388 968. It might be fake but does look real. Thank you. Bob
Judging by the serial number and comparing it to the Luftwaffe-issued IIIcK cameras listed in Jim Lager’s “Wehrmacht Leica” book, it looks like yours falls into late 1942 - early 1943. I’m not saying that yours is Luftwaffe-issued (as your serial number is not among the ones listed), but it falls into the general serial number range of other IIIcK bodies that were made during that time period.
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Hello, is there a way how to verify authenticity of a wartime Leica? 388968. Thank you, Bob
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Thank you very much for your reply. How do you figure out if it is a fake? It has all the attributes of a wartime Leica, it is chrome, which makes it rare...whom do you contact for authenticity? Thank you. Hello
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Please post some photos and we should be able to weigh in further.

Jim Lager would be the person to contact - he is one of the moderators on this Forum and should be able to help you.
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Hello, is there a way how to verify authenticity of a wartime Leica? 388968. Thank you, Bob
I own a chrome lllc that's very close to yours (#383818) from 1941-42, in fact your camera was produced in the same batch starting with #369451 & ending with #390000. I know of a lllc K from this batch of cameras with serial #389882, it is a gray paint & clearly labeled with a K after the serial #.
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