Go Back   Rangefinderforum.com > Cameras / Gear / Photography > Fuji X Series > Fuji X-100 Series

Fuji X-100 Series This forum is for fans of the rangefinder retrostyled Fuji X Series of digital cameras.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes

How will you test your new Fuji X100?
Old 10-02-2010   #1
narsuitus
Registered User
 
narsuitus's Avatar
 
narsuitus is offline
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,248
Question How will you test your new Fuji X100?

Here are the tests I perform when I get a new lens and/or camera:

1. Target Test--I have been using something I made by pasting product bar codes, a Kodak color chart, and a Kodak gray scale on a pistol shooting target in order to evaluate how well the camera and lens captures details, blacks, whites, grays, and colors. I perform this test with the camera on a tripod, a remote shutter release, and the SLR mirror locked up. I use manual exposure mode or aperture exposure mode to test each f/stop.

2. Brick Wall Test--I photograph a brick wall in order to evaluate optical defects such as pin-cushioning, barreling, vignetting, and moustaching.

3. Duck Test--I go to a duck pond in order to evaluate how well my camera and lens handles moving targets. This is were I usually get a good idea of how good or bad the frame rate and lag time are.

4. Field Test--I use the camera and lens under actual conditions in order to see if they fulfills the need I had when I bought them and to see if they have any quirks. For example, one quirk I discovered in one lens I was testing was that it produced images that were warmer than all my other lenses.

How will you test your new Fuji X100?

By the way, if you do not have a good lens testing chart, here is a good one I found on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/TEST-CHART-FUJI-...item2eb010e39c
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-02-2010   #2
Pickett Wilson
Registered User
 
Pickett Wilson's Avatar
 
Pickett Wilson is offline
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 3,848
Oh, good grief.
__________________
______________________________________________
"There is something rather sad about a truckload of caviar"

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/phot...0&ppuser=28005
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-02-2010   #3
PKR
Registered User
 
PKR is offline
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,489
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pickett Wilson View Post
Oh, good grief.

Right on My Brother.. this is getting to be absurd.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-02-2010   #4
robbeiflex
Registered User
 
robbeiflex's Avatar
 
robbeiflex is offline
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Luxembourg
Posts: 1,029
Seriously? You're joking right?

As an avid hobbyist with little time available for my hobby, I just use my new purchases and see if I like them.
__________________
"They say, ‘If you use this digital camera, you can take a clear picture in the dark’. The dark should stay dark. You can’t really see that much, and you don’t really want to see that much anyway.” Nobuyoshi Araki 2006

My Flickr
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-02-2010   #5
Matus
Registered User
 
Matus's Avatar
 
Matus is offline
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Frankfurt, DE
Posts: 1,843
c'mon guys, narsuitus is just kidding ... I hope ...
__________________
________
Matus
... Flickr galleries: New Zealand , Spain
... per camera: Olympus XA , Jupiter J3 , Rolleiflex T, Mamiya 6, Ricoh GRDIII shots
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-02-2010   #6
Rick Waldroup
Registered User
 
Rick Waldroup's Avatar
 
Rick Waldroup is offline
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Texas
Posts: 975
No, I don't think he is kidding at all, unfortunately.
__________________
Rick Waldroup Photography
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-02-2010   #7
Pickett Wilson
Registered User
 
Pickett Wilson's Avatar
 
Pickett Wilson is offline
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 3,848
We have, right now, the most incredible selection in history of cameras at our fingertips, and instead of going out shooting some photos, someone starts a thread wondering how folks will test a camera that doesn't exist yet. Just incredible.

I'm gonna go shoot some pictures.
__________________
______________________________________________
"There is something rather sad about a truckload of caviar"

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/phot...0&ppuser=28005
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-02-2010   #8
Phil_F_NM
Camera hacker
 
Phil_F_NM's Avatar
 
Phil_F_NM is offline
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Age: 43
Posts: 3,956
As for testing, I will see if it holds up to the durability of an F2 by placing the X100 on a table and striking it with the trusty Nikon.

If it passes that trial, I will use an unofficial Navy test in which I will go to a body of water and place the camera in the water to see if it floats. If it does not float, an assistant will document its performance underwater with a Nikonos IV-a. Finally, we will monitor its progress towards the bottom of the ocean via a pattern of VLAD bouys and note the depth at which it succumbs to pressure.

Results to be published here after test and analysis.

Phil Forrest

Last edited by Brian Sweeney : 10-02-2010 at 09:09.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-02-2010   #9
v_roma
Registered User
 
v_roma is offline
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 546
Well, discussing how one will test the X100 is, to me, clearly premature. But, hating the same non-existent camera to the point where you fantasize dropping it in the ocean seems to be the other side of the same coin.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-02-2010   #10
JohnnyT
Registered User
 
JohnnyT is offline
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Montreal
Posts: 130
Against a rock to see if there is any distorsion on the barrel afterward.

We are never sure, if there is a ninjas invasion, any megapixel will never do any good if the titanium body do not hold any dirty tricks they'll show us...

Just kidding ... Before anything I'll read some reviews, test it in store and buy it if I do like it like any other camera that I've bought... If I do like the texture of the file, it gonna be a winner, if not, i'll continue to play with my other toys (okay, tools...)!
__________________
I always wished to be invisible...

http://jonathantremblay.carbonmade.com
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-02-2010   #11
Brian Sweeney
Registered User
 
Brian Sweeney's Avatar
 
Brian Sweeney is offline
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 14,912
I'll wait a few months, let the early adopters be the "Bleeding Edge". The first batch of these types of camera usually go through "growing pains", bug-fixes, and internal tweeking to get it right. Next Summer or Fall is the time to seriosly consider one as "prime-time".

Buy one, read the manual, charge the battery, put in a card, take a few pictures. Same as the EP2.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-02-2010   #12
Al Patterson
Ferroequinologist
 
Al Patterson is offline
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Columbus GA USA
Age: 63
Posts: 2,733
Maybe Mr Gandy wants all the X100 wanking in one place?

Seriously though, the tests listed are fairly complete, although some of us might want to drop it from eye height to see how sturdy it is...

\sarcasm mode off
__________________
Al Patterson

Canon QL17 GIII
Leica CL 40mm Summicron-C 50mm Hexanon
Yashica Electro 35 GSN
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-02-2010   #13
teo
Registered User
 
teo is offline
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Italy
Posts: 212
I'm waiting to see Petronio's test shot... with models
__________________
_my RFF gallery_

my flickr
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-02-2010   #14
aizan
Registered User
 
aizan's Avatar
 
aizan is offline
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Torrance, CA
Age: 37
Posts: 4,584
i'll wait to see what mike johnston, sean reid, thom hogan, and erwin puts say. i'll also go to the camera store to try it out.
__________________
Ugly Cameras
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-02-2010   #15
semilog
curmudgeonly optimist
 
semilog's Avatar
 
semilog is offline
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,671
By using it on the street. If I come back with something good, it works.
__________________
There are two kinds of photographers:
those who are interested in what a particular camera can't do,
and those who are interested in what it can do.

semilog.smugmug.com | flickr.com/photos/semilog/
  Reply With Quote

I will shoot the cats
Old 10-02-2010   #16
ampguy
Registered User
 
ampguy's Avatar
 
ampguy is offline
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 7,020
I will shoot the cats

Orange cat will test for color accuracy.

grey cat will test for shadow detail, and exposure accuracy.


Quote:
Originally Posted by narsuitus View Post
Here are the tests I perform when I get a new lens and/or camera:

1. Target Test--I have been using something I made by pasting product bar codes, a Kodak color chart, and a Kodak gray scale on a pistol shooting target in order to evaluate how well the camera and lens captures details, blacks, whites, grays, and colors. I perform this test with the camera on a tripod, a remote shutter release, and the SLR mirror locked up. I use manual exposure mode or aperture exposure mode to test each f/stop.

2. Brick Wall Test--I photograph a brick wall in order to evaluate optical defects such as pin-cushioning, barreling, vignetting, and moustaching.

3. Duck Test--I go to a duck pond in order to evaluate how well my camera and lens handles moving targets. This is were I usually get a good idea of how good or bad the frame rate and lag time are.

4. Field Test--I use the camera and lens under actual conditions in order to see if they fulfills the need I had when I bought them and to see if they have any quirks. For example, one quirk I discovered in one lens I was testing was that it produced images that were warmer than all my other lenses.

How will you test your new Fuji X100?

By the way, if you do not have a good lens testing chart, here is a good one I found on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/TEST-CHART-FUJI-...item2eb010e39c
__________________
My photo blog

  Reply With Quote

Old 10-02-2010   #17
bobby_novatron
Photon Collector
 
bobby_novatron's Avatar
 
bobby_novatron is offline
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: the Great White North (Canada)
Age: 49
Posts: 1,237
Actually, I've got all of you beat already.

I traveled to the future (using my home-made time machine ... BTW, the schematics are posted in a different RFF forum) and in 2014 I purchased the Fuji X200!

Since returning to 2010, I have been taking test photos with the X200 and am pleasantly surprised. Its 3D holomatrix imaging (via the 35 megapixel dual quantum-state CMOS sensors) is really quite something. Plus, I can use all my LTM, M-mount, Contax-mount, Nikon-mount, Fisher Price mount, and medium format lenses -- at the same time!

Ain't technology grand?
__________________
my Flickr:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bobby_novatron

Last edited by bobby_novatron : 10-02-2010 at 10:30.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-02-2010   #18
wontonny
Registered User
 
wontonny is offline
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 279
I'm just gonna sit back and have you guys do all the tests and just reap the benefits.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-02-2010   #19
alexnotalex
Registered User
 
alexnotalex is offline
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 447
Wow. Do you know where I can find a Fisher Price to M adapter?

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobby_novatron View Post
Actually, I've got all of you beat already.

I traveled to the future (using my home-made time machine ... BTW, the schematics are posted in a different RFF forum) and in 2014 I purchased the Fuji X200!

Since returning to 2010, I have been taking test photos with the X200 and am pleasantly surprised. Its 3D holomatrix imaging (via the 35 megapixel dual quantum-state CMOS sensors) is really quite something. Plus, I can use all my LTM, M-mount, Contax-mount, Nikon-mount, Fisher Price mount, and medium format lenses -- at the same time!

Ain't technology grand?
__________________
burning reflected light onto chemical film. It's real
M3 + Rigid Summicron, Nikon D40 and an iphone for that digital look. my Flickr
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-02-2010   #20
JohnnyT
Registered User
 
JohnnyT is offline
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Montreal
Posts: 130
Is the X200 a big cardboard box?

The ad campaign was (will) going with something like this :

Forget the titanium cauz it rust!

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobby_novatron View Post
Actually, I've got all of you beat already.

I traveled to the future (using my home-made time machine ... BTW, the schematics are posted in a different RFF forum) and in 2014 I purchased the Fuji X200!

Since returning to 2010, I have been taking test photos with the X200 and am pleasantly surprised. Its 3D holomatrix imaging (via the 35 megapixel dual quantum-state CMOS sensors) is really quite something. Plus, I can use all my LTM, M-mount, Contax-mount, Nikon-mount, Fisher Price mount, and medium format lenses -- at the same time!

Ain't technology grand?
__________________
I always wished to be invisible...

http://jonathantremblay.carbonmade.com
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-02-2010   #21
bobby_novatron
Photon Collector
 
bobby_novatron's Avatar
 
bobby_novatron is offline
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: the Great White North (Canada)
Age: 49
Posts: 1,237
Actually my home-made time machine is a cardboard box, not the camera. The camera is a biscuit tin wrapped in foil.
__________________
my Flickr:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bobby_novatron
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-02-2010   #22
JohnnyT
Registered User
 
JohnnyT is offline
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Montreal
Posts: 130
Should have thought about it, you can make anything out of aluminium foil!
__________________
I always wished to be invisible...

http://jonathantremblay.carbonmade.com
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-02-2010   #23
Ezzie
E. D. Russell Roberts
 
Ezzie's Avatar
 
Ezzie is offline
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Norway
Posts: 2,709
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobby_novatron View Post
Actually my home-made time machine is a cardboard box, not the camera. .....
Aaah, much like Calvin´s time machine. Be careful, the rules change when you least expect it.
__________________
Eirik

RF: Leica M4-2 | Royal 35-M | Polaroid 110A/600SE hybrid
VF: DIY 4x5 | DIY 6x17 | Voigtländer Vito CL | Foth Derby | Welta Weltix | Smena Symbol | Lomo'Instax
SLR: Canon EF | Pentacon SIX | Pentax SP1000 | Pentax SV
TLR: Rolleiflex 2.8E3 | DUO TLR
CSC: Fuji X-E1
Pinhole: 6x17 Vermeer | ONDU 6x6 | DIY 4x5 | DIY 6x24

My Flickr
Silver Halides - Pictures in B&W
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-02-2010   #24
PKR
Registered User
 
PKR is offline
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,489
At this point, since it's all on paper..a paper camera, if you will.. I'll fold it into a classic U-2C (my favorite Kelly Johnson design) configuration, and test fly it across the living room, going for maximum distance. I will employ an ant as the test pilot. Once the test pilot is debriefed, I'll publish the results on this thread.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-02-2010   #25
antiquark
Derek Ross
 
antiquark's Avatar
 
antiquark is offline
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 1,477
Test it? There's no way I'll activate the shutter once it arrives, that will affect the resale value!
__________________

  Reply With Quote

Old 10-02-2010   #26
Roger Hicks
Registered User
 
Roger Hicks is offline
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Aquitaine
Posts: 23,947
Use it hard for 25 years and see if it compares with a Leica or Nikon F. Then put it in a drawer for 20 years before trying to use it again...

Cheers,

R.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-02-2010   #27
bobby_novatron
Photon Collector
 
bobby_novatron's Avatar
 
bobby_novatron is offline
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: the Great White North (Canada)
Age: 49
Posts: 1,237
PKR -- I would be wary of using an ant as your test pilot. You could cause a flap with P.E.T.I. (People for the Ethical Treatment of Insects). It's possible they could demonstrate in front of your house, protesting your treatment of their multi-legged friends.

But hey -- at the same time, there would probably be some great photo op's and street photography out of the whole thing! I say, go for it!
__________________
my Flickr:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bobby_novatron
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-03-2010   #28
jsrockit
Moderator
 
jsrockit's Avatar
 
jsrockit is offline
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Santiago, Chile
Age: 46
Posts: 19,875
Sorry, I can't obtain this level of geekery. I try the camera out and it either does it for me or it doesn't.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-03-2010   #29
Keith
On leave from Gallifrey
 
Keith's Avatar
 
Keith is offline
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Australia
Posts: 18,595
I'm hanging out for the unpacking video myself!

I think they're really cool!
__________________
---------------------------
flickr
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-03-2010   #30
bigeye
Registered User
 
bigeye's Avatar
 
bigeye is offline
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: New York
Posts: 1,182
...with white gloves?


...no gloves, but I did find an early version of the X100 in video
__________________
I bought a new camera. It's so advanced you don't even need it. - Steven Wright

Last edited by bigeye : 10-03-2010 at 16:26.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-03-2010   #31
Frankie
Speaking Frankly
 
Frankie is offline
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Vancouver Canada
Posts: 753
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger Hicks View Post
Use it hard for 25 years and see if it compares with a Leica or Nikon F. Then put it in a drawer for 20 years before trying to use it again...
And few RFF members would live to see the results...
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-05-2010   #32
ElectroWNED
Registered User
 
ElectroWNED is offline
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: New York
Posts: 487
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil_F_NM View Post
As for testing, I will see if it holds up to the durability of an F2 by placing the X100 on a table and striking it with the trusty Nikon.

If it passes that trial, I will use an unofficial Navy test in which I will go to a body of water and place the camera in the water to see if it floats. If it does not float, an assistant will document its performance underwater with a Nikonos IV-a. Finally, we will monitor its progress towards the bottom of the ocean via a pattern of VLAD bouys and note the depth at which it succumbs to pressure.

Results to be published here after test and analysis.

Phil Forrest
I'm LOL'ing
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-05-2010   #33
kshapero
Press the Shutter
 
kshapero's Avatar
 
kshapero is offline
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: South Florida, USA
Age: 69
Posts: 9,807
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger Hicks View Post
Use it hard for 25 years and see if it compares with a Leica or Nikon F. Then put it in a drawer for 20 years before trying to use it again...

Cheers,

R.
Rog, I hope we live that long.
__________________
Akiva S.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kshapero

Cameras, Lenses and Photos
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-05-2010   #34
Roger Hicks
Registered User
 
Roger Hicks is offline
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Aquitaine
Posts: 23,947
Quote:
Originally Posted by kshapero View Post
Rog, I hope we live that long.
Well, me too. But it does make something of a nonsense of the sort of 'test' some people do, doesn't it?

Cheers,

R.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-05-2010   #35
Steve_F
Registered User
 
Steve_F's Avatar
 
Steve_F is offline
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Hampshire, UK
Age: 53
Posts: 453
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger Hicks View Post
Use it hard for 25 years and see if it compares with a Leica or Nikon F. Then put it in a drawer for 20 years before trying to use it again...

Cheers,

R.
You forgot one thing Roger, a handheld meter if it's going to be tested properly without it's batteries.

As for the rest of you...sarcasm maybe the lowest form of wit (some say) but it sure as hell is the funniest!
Great thread.

Steve.
__________________
www.stephenfell.net

'Thoughts & Scribbles' Blog



"You look at a colour image, but read a black & white one"

"Personal Development Through Image Construction"

M6 TTL Black, M6TTL Chrome, 35/2 Summicron ASPH, 50/2 Summicron

Nikon FM3A, Mamiya RZ67 Pro II
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-05-2010   #36
Brian Sweeney
Registered User
 
Brian Sweeney's Avatar
 
Brian Sweeney is offline
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 14,912
I've got a couple of cameras that are still in that kind of testing.

So far, the Minolta Hi-Matic 9 is in the lead. But the F2a and Photomic F are close behind.

I have a Weston Master 715 that definitely passed. It was bought in World War II at work, and sat unused in a drawer for 50 years. I found it about 10 years ago, cleaning out an old Lab. Now in my camera bag.

Last edited by Brian Sweeney : 10-05-2010 at 12:13.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-05-2010   #37
vincentbenoit
télémétrique argentique
 
vincentbenoit's Avatar
 
vincentbenoit is offline
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Lyon, France
Posts: 768
Am pleased to see that the test chart is available to the people of New Caledonia.

And Tawain (sic) too.

Vincent
__________________
télémétrique argentique
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-05-2010   #38
xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
 
xayraa33's Avatar
 
xayraa33 is offline
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 5,860
How will I test it ?

I will swiftly run to my nearest Tim Horton and place the Fuji wonder cam between a large cup of hot black java and a stale french cruller and photograph it with my Leica III and its Summar lens on eastern european black and white film.
__________________
My Gallery
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-05-2010   #39
Roger Hicks
Registered User
 
Roger Hicks is offline
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Aquitaine
Posts: 23,947
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve_F View Post
You forgot one thing Roger, a handheld meter if it's going to be tested properly without it's batteries.

As for the rest of you...sarcasm maybe the lowest form of wit (some say) but it sure as hell is the funniest!
Great thread.

Steve.
Dear Steve,

Good point! Sorry for the omission.

Cheers,

R.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-05-2010   #40
MikeTinsley
Mike Tinsley
 
MikeTinsley is offline
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Dorking, Surrey, UK
Age: 62
Posts: 44
How about testing to see if it can be used like a hammer to beat a mugger to a bloody pulp without damaging the camera....or perhaps dropping it onto a pavement a few times, bouncing it around in a climbing rucksack full of chalk and getting it a bit damp in a rainstorm and seeing how worried you are about it.......
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:10.


vBulletin skin developed by: eXtremepixels
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

All content on this site is Copyright Protected and owned by its respective owner. You may link to content on this site but you may not reproduce any of it in whole or part without written consent from its owner.