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Finally, X100
Old 02-07-2011   #1
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Finally, X100

i just found out THIS

US$1199.95

how do you all feel?


excited?

so so?

this is bad news?

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Old 02-07-2011   #2
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I was pretty sure I wouldn't be able to afford it anyway. Maybe when I graduate in a few years.
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$1,549.41 New Zealand Dollars ... maybe more.

I still want to have a look at it and read all the reviews

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Old 02-08-2011   #5
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$1,549.41 New Zealand Dollars ... maybe more.

I still want to have a look at it and read all the reviews

A camera store in Riccarton, Christchurch claims to be the first to get this camera in NZ and told me the price will be $1700-1800.
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I love the concepts/controls of this camera,...... but only 720p video? they can do better than that ........ I 'spose they did this deliberately, so the next one with the 1080p will be the "upgrade" model in 6 months.......
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I love the concepts/controls of this camera,...... but only 720p video? they can do better than that ........ I 'spose they did this deliberately, so the next one with the 1080p will be the "upgrade" model in 6 months.......
Who really cares? No one is going to be using this for filming TV episodes. Do you really need to upload youtube clips of cat tricks and kids playing at 1080p? It's a still camera, I wouldn't even cry if it had no video capabilities. 720p is more than sufficient should I ever feel like capturing a quick moving clip.
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I love the concepts/controls of this camera,...... but only 720p video? they can do better than that ........ I 'spose they did this deliberately, so the next one with the 1080p will be the "upgrade" model in 6 months.......
or maybe because the focus is on still photography and video is an afterthought...
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27 sample images and ALL shot at ISO200
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27 sample images and ALL shot at ISO200
This one is at 400, but yeah I know what you mean.
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This one is at 400, but yeah I know what you mean.
That image is shot at ISO400, but with -1.3EV and a shutter speed of 1/30. So in other words that is also an ISO 200 photo.
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27 sample images and ALL shot at ISO200

Yes. Most @200 iso, and only one @400 Iso :-(

There still must be something to tweak on high iso. I am 100% sure that I have seen few hours ago on this picture gallery a picture of a street at night in sepia colors, and from what I have seen on my Iphone, shadows were very / completly dark... this picture has disappeared now !!!

On the picture samples in the gallery mentionned above (http://www.finepix-x100.com/en/gallery/images) several samples with snow seem to show also a lack of exposure latitude (... althought it could be a wrong exposure ... ).

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Yes. Most @200 iso, and only one @400 Iso :-(

There still must be something to tweak on high iso. I am 100% sure that I have seen few hours ago on this picture gallery a picture of a street at night in sepia colors, and from what I have seen on my Iphone, shadows were very / completly dark... this picture has disappeared now !!!

On the picture samples in the gallery mentionned above (http://www.finepix-x100.com/en/gallery/images) several samples with snow seem to show also a lack of exposure latitude (... althought it could be a wrong exposure ... ).
All of the snow images I have opened in photoshop, I can bring down the snow and there is enough detail and levels there for some nice contrast and no blown highlights. Impressive for a jpeg. I'm sure the raw has even smoother tones.
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Yes. Most @200 iso, and only one @400 Iso :-(

There still must be something to tweak on high iso. I am 100% sure that I have seen few hours ago on this picture gallery a picture of a street at night in sepia colors, and from what I have seen on my Iphone, shadows were very / completly dark... this picture has disappeared now !!!

On the picture samples in the gallery mentionned above (http://www.finepix-x100.com/en/gallery/images) several samples with snow seem to show also a lack of exposure latitude (... althought it could be a wrong exposure ... ).
Here is an example I whipped up. The only image with clipped snow that I could see is this one (the very bottom has a very small row of pure white clipped pixels, but the top of the snow has detail) and it looks like not only should the exposure been recorded darker, but there is no way of knowing yet if the raw file would have had the actual info in it.



Impressive if you ask me, especially the sky and the tree shadows along the path.
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Where's the "OMG THE PRICE HAS BEEN DRIVEN UP BY FORUM HYPE!!!! LOL!!1!" crew?

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finepix x100 images

Finally some images from the x100, I think its going to have the usual issues in night colour shots, and some auto white balance issues, great for black and white, probably needs an orange filter for more punch. Love the fact the shutter is in the lens, has a gentle shutter tick just like the the Mamiya 7

Better resolution than the Leica M8 but at the sacrifice of one lens, a second hand M8 is still very attractive

http://www.finepix-x100.com/en/gallery/images
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Finally some images from the x100, I think its going to have the usual issues in night colour shots, and some auto white balance issues, great for black and white, probably needs an orange filter for more punch. Love the fact the shutter is in the lens, has a gentle shutter tick just like the the Mamiya 7

Better resolution than the Leica M8 but at the sacrifice of one lens, a second hand M8 is still very attractive

http://www.finepix-x100.com/en/gallery/images
Don't really see the better resolution compared to the M8, but it does look pretty decent. Seems like a great second digital body in addition to the M8, though to be fair it's still unclear which one would be the primary and which one the backup...
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Don't really see the better resolution compared to the M8, but it does look pretty decent.
X100's 12.3 mpx vs M8's 10.3 mpx
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X100's 12.3 mpx vs M8's 10.3 mpx
For the nominal resolution this is correct, but it doesn't say a lot about the detail capture or actual resolution, given the M8's lack of an anti-aliasing filter and choice of excellent lenses. The Fuji lens may be very good, but you are limited to it.
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Wow, the sample images are so so dull. A camera with this much excitement, and they show cats and flowers. :/

So, what's the UK price then, has that been confirmed?
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Wow, the sample images are so so dull. A camera with this much excitement, and they show cats and flowers. :/

So, what's the UK price then, has that been confirmed?
In order to not be totally shocked, I would say take the US price and just use UK currency, so about 1200 + some fudge factor.
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In order to not be totally shocked, I would say take the US price and just use UK currency, so about 1200 + some fudge factor.
UK price is announced as 999.

A straight conversion from dollars, plus VAT would be 900.
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UK price is announced as 999.

A straight conversion from dollars, plus VAT would be 900.
Well, at least that's fair.
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In order to not be totally shocked, I would say take the US price and just use UK currency, so about 1200 + some fudge factor.
It is 900 + vat


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Those B&W's they posted sure are soft and flat! Hopefully the RAW files won't look like this.
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yeah, the jpg engine doesn't seem to be especially good, with the in-camera b&w even worse. however, the lens seems to be ok, for example:
http://d2b8yfhnsfhl3f.cloudfront.net/x100/DSCF3750.JPG
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nice photo

but I was expecting the other side of the street would be more oof @ f2, relative to a hexar af, or 35 cron on m6 or m8, but it is really just a 24mm actual fl lens. still pretty good image from a jpg. and nice large size to see.

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yeah, the jpg engine doesn't seem to be especially good, with the in-camera b&w even worse. however, the lens seems to be ok, for example:
http://d2b8yfhnsfhl3f.cloudfront.net/x100/DSCF3750.JPG
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but I was expecting the other side of the street would be more oof @ f2, relative to a hexar af,
Yeah, me too. Or maybe hoping.
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It's really hard to judge from these. It looks like they just hung the thing from some random guys neck and had it fire away at random.
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For any Aussies that are interested in preordering the Jesus camera, Vanbar are taking orders. Decent price as well - AUD$1,295.

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Is the case and vented hood included with the camera, or are those extra?
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Is the case and vented hood included with the camera, or are those extra?
Case, hood, and even the filter adaptor are all separate extras. I'm interested what the "protective cover" is, since they already listed the lens cap. Probably just a cloth pouch.

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I'm gonna wait for the first shipment and see how you all like it...
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I'm gonna wait for the first shipment and see how you all like it...
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i would wait for the full review first before spending all my hard earned money for this..
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The images look good. Life-changing? NO. But, they look very good for a small digital camera.

In my experience, Fuji lenses have a certain delicate or gentle personality. I see this quality in the sample images here.
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The images look good. Life-changing? NO. But, they look very good for a small digital camera.

In my experience, Fuji lenses have a certain delicate or gentle personality. I see this quality in the sample images here.
It's not really that the images are expected to be life changing, it's the camera itself that is so exciting.

If these were images from a new aps-c Dslr from sony or canon, only the most anal of pixel peepers would be excited, as this is only a marginal improvement over the d7000 or 60D in noise (and looking like dynamic range too).

It's the fact it is shaping up to offer class leading aps-c quality in a much smaller form factor. If it increases the number of times a photographer has his camera and takes photos, that's what could be "life changing" to that photographer. Having a high quality small camera to carry more often than a dslr. Too often we have to choose between "great image quality", small size, price, and a viewfinder.

Leica X1? no viewfinder and expensive
Nex? No viewfinder (and for now, slow lenses unless you adapt and lose AF)
m4/3? none of the small ones have good integrated viewfinders, and image quality isn't as good as aps-c
real P&S like s90/lx5/XZ-1? No viewfinder and IQ is way behind aps-c
M8/9/RD-1? Price (and it is looking very likely that at least on the noise-in-high-ISO front, the x100 will readily spank all 3 of these)
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